Does an awesome massage trump a fake pic?

[Martin]

I'm conflicted about this... Just had an amazing therapeutic and sensual massage with an articulate, friendly and professional masseur. He was on time, if not early, prepared and obviously knew his craft. The only thing is his pics were NOT him! He's probably 15-20 years older and although not unattractive, was not the ripped person shown in pics. At first I'm like WTF? But after 30 min into the massage my disappointment wore off.

 

So the question is, are fake or decade old pics made to lure you into an appointment dishonest if the massage was excellent?

 

https://rentmasseur.com/nycgroomer

[samK]

Bate and switch is normal on the internet everywhere. Not that it makes this right, but as long as you got the massage he advertised & you enjoyed it- no party fail there.

Sad that he thinks he has to post false photos to get hired.

Oddly, I almost hired him last November. So Thanks for the Heads Up. ((;

[maninsoma]

Wait. What's the question? If you are asking whether a guy with massage skills might use fake or dated pictures in order to get business, your experience obviously confirmed that. If you are asking whether that tactic works on other clients, I have to say that I have sometimes gone ahead with appointments when I was pretty sure the guy used fake pictures that were, nonetheless, of someone at least similar stats-wise. I wouldn't follow through with an appointment if I showed up and the guy was obviously a generation older and not in the shape as the guy I expected.

[510guy]

That happened to me once. The ad was a somewhat ripped guy with no face pic. What happened when he opened was a stocky guy and nothing like I would have even entertained.

 

I always said if this happened I would call him out and leave but opposite happened. His massage actually was decent and he was into it. But because he did not attract me I was not into the mutual touch thing. Since he did a decent job I didn't say anything at the end, if I felt he did a poor job I may have called him out.

 

But, I would not go back to him and no one has ever inquired about him here so I never brought it up.

 

So to answer your question, a blatant fake pic (old pic I can forgive) no repeat business.

[Martin]

That happened to me once. The ad was a somewhat ripped guy with no face pic. What happened when he opened was a stocky guy and nothing like I would have even entertained.

 

I always said if this happened I would call him out and leave but opposite happened. His massage actually was decent and he was into it. But because he did not attract me I was not into the mutual touch thing. Since he did a decent job I didn't say anything at the end, if I felt he did a poor job I may have called him out.

 

But, I would not go back to him and no one has ever inquired about him here so I never brought it up.

 

So to answer your question, a blatant fake pic (old pic I can forgive) no repeat business.

Yeah I can totally relate...

[510guy]

That happened to me once. The ad was a somewhat ripped guy with no face pic. What happened when he opened was a stocky guy and nothing like I would have even entertained.

 

I always said if this happened I would call him out and leave but opposite happened. His massage actually was decent and he was into it. But because he did not attract me I was not into the mutual touch thing. Since he did a decent job I didn't say anything at the end, if I felt he did a poor job I may have called him out.

 

But, I would not go back to him and no one has ever inquired about him here so I never brought it up.

 

So to answer your question, a blatant fake pic (old pic I can forgive) no repeat business.

 

By the way, I did mention the fake pic on a MF review but obviously that didn't make the cut for posting.

[Martin]

By the way, I did mention the fake pic on a MF review but obviously that didn't make the cut for posting.

Yeah I was thinking I should report the fake pic but because he was such a nice guy and did a quality massage I didn't want to go there... There in lies the whole conflict.

[MassageDrew]

Honestly, if you enjoy it then it shouldn't matter. If you're hiring for the looks then you probably shouldn't go back for false advertising.

 

I've hired a masseur and he was really good though his ad indicates he's 28 years old for the past 3 years. His new pics don't match the old pics he posted as well. I may hire him still but only when my regular guy is out of town.

[LaffingBear]

Wait. What's the question? If you are asking whether a guy with massage skills might use fake or dated pictures in order to get business, your experience obviously confirmed that. If you are asking whether that tactic works on other clients, I have to say that I have sometimes gone ahead with appointments when I was pretty sure the guy used fake pictures that were, nonetheless, of someone at least similar stats-wise. I wouldn't follow through with an appointment if I showed up and the guy was obviously a generation older and not in the shape as the guy I expected.

Bate and switch is normal on the internet everywhere. Not that it makes this right, but as long as you got the massage he advertised & you enjoyed it- no party fail there

I recently permitted things to go too far with a rentguy using a fake pic.

 

I regret not sending him away upon first sight. As it was, 5 minutes after starting, there were ample red flags, and I sent him away, after retrieving 75% of the fee he'd demanded upfront.

 

His attitude suggested absolutely no regret or excuses about using a fake pic. He felt justified on the basis of discretion. In hindsight, that attitude sticks in my craw.

 

I wont let it happen again.

[samK]

Yeah I was thinking I should report the fake pic but because he was such a nice guy and did a quality massage I didn't want to go there... There in lies the whole conflict.

I had a male Uber drvier show up one time- when it was supposed to be a female. I called that out and he said his wife had to go shopping and he was going to drvie me. I Didn't Get In. (haha)

I think I would take the same approach with a Massuer. ((;

[+ EVdude]

Well I guess the real words to the wise are... check here first for authentication and references! Those pics are the same ones Mike was using back when I first saw him in 2004.

[Martin]

I had a male Uber drvier show up one time- when it was supposed to be a female. I called that out and he said his wife had to go shopping and he was going to drvie me. I Didn't Get In. (haha)

I think I would take the same approach with a Massuer. ((;

lol, I'm guessing one get's an Uber driver by their proximity to you and not how hot they look... But you might be on to something, let's start a campaign for Uber to start showing us the drivers pics and we get to choose who "picks us up" lol...

[Martin]

Well I guess the real words to the wise are... check here first for authentication and references! Those pics are the same ones Mike was using back when I first saw him in 2004.

Well then I guess my comment about decade old pics wasn't too far off....

[samK]

lol, I'm guessing one get's an Uber driver by their proximity to you and not how hot they look... But you might be on to something, let's start a campaign for Uber to start showing us the drivers pics and we get to choose who "picks us up" lol...

I like you Martin! ((:

[nynakedtop]

Well I guess the real words to the wise are... check here first for authentication and references! Those pics are the same ones Mike was using back when I first saw him in 2004.

 

actually when i met him back around the same time i thought he pics back then were quite a bit "dated"

[+ nycman]

Nope. Doesn't cut it for me.

 

You don't look "exactly" like your pics...but damn close?...I'll chalk it up to

advertising and go ahead with the appointment.

 

You look"nothing" like your pics?...I will make sure you understand that I do not

appreciate having my time wasted....and you will be leaving empty handed.

No amount of "skill" will wash out the bad taste of having been lied to.

 

Of course, the are a thousand shades of grey in between....and that's where

this question gets interesting.

[Bucky]

By NOT calling them out and sending them on their way, as SOON as they arrive, only encourages these fraudulent, phony, cowardly guys to continue their pursuits.

[LaffingBear]

By NOT calling them out and sending them on their way, as SOON as they arrive, only encourages these fraudulent, phony, cowardly guys to continue their pursuits.

Thats why, after starting out stupidly, I sent the recent fake away. With encouragement to investigate these forums and daddys reviews.

[Martin]

Thats why, after starting out stupidly, I sent the recent fake away. With encouragement to investigate these forums and daddys reviews.

Agreed but what if the "imposter" was as hot or hotter than the pics and just trying to stay on the DL. This has happened to me and I was OK with it. Just sayin....

[LaffingBear]

Agreed but what if the "imposter" was as hot or hotter than the pics and just trying to stay on the DL. This has happened to me and I was OK with it. Just sayin....

Every situation is different. Anything can happen.

 

The takeaway for me... when things begin with dishonesty, favorable experiences are less likely.

[KennF]

You're talking about multiple issues and attempting to justify your actions after the fact. Two wrongs don't make it right. The ends shouldn't justify the means.

 

The provider used false advertising. Not just sales puffery, but false advertising. Stretching the truth, using slightly outdated pics, using camera angles to hide things, that's sales puffery. Using someone else's information or pics, that false advertising and fraud. That's on him.

 

You found out about it and allowed yourself to be played the victim. That's on you. (You got lucky that he gave a good massage.)

 

Does the massage trump the fraud? Not in my books.

Where is this 'confidence game' heading?

How can you trust this person to not bait and switch you in the future?

Instead of a good massage, how about a robbery instead?

 

I'd say you should go play the lottery while you're still lucky.

[+ sniper]

I've seen people use photos of themselves that were so old they look more different from them than some people who use pics of different people. The degree of the difference is the issue. This field skirts the edge of legality and those who advertise are taking a certain amount of risk, so it's not an absolute dealbreaker unless the picture looks nothing like them.

[Martin]

You're talking about multiple issues and attempting to justify your actions after the fact. Two wrongs don't make it right. The ends shouldn't justify the means.

 

The provider used false advertising. Not just sales puffery, but false advertising. Stretching the truth, using slightly outdated pics, using camera angles to hide things, that's sales puffery. Using someone else's information or pics, that false advertising and fraud. That's on him.

 

You found out about it and allowed yourself to be played the victim. That's on you. (You got lucky that he gave a good massage.)

 

Does the massage trump the fraud? Not in my books.

Where is this 'confidence game' heading?

How can you trust this person to not bait and switch you in the future?

Instead of a good massage, how about a robbery instead?

 

I'd say you should go play the lottery while you're still lucky.

Well said, thanks....

[Guest InthePines]

I think pretending to take on someone else's identity is an indication of at least a lessor sociopathic behavior. It's never happen to me, but I don't think I'd allow them in the door.

[samandtham]

If this happened to me, I would send him away—or if I went to his studio, I would say "not you" and turn around. Nothing would make me come back, even if he says that my massage is free if it was unsatisfactory. (Newsflash: I'm already dissatisfied because the person I hired isn't the one I see in front of me.)

 

When I go to a spa and get a massage, I am paying for the therapist's technique. I would first and foremost expect a good- to great massage if he wants a repeat customer. If he were good-looking or offered anything beyond the massage, that's a bonus. I don't look for that initially, however.

 

When I hire from MF or MM4M, it's because I find the guy good-looking and the reviews (from this forum) make him out to be competent in the technique department. It's not an or situation, especially if he wants me to come back.

 

Also, like what a few others have already said, you're being complicit in the therapist's deception by entertaining him despite the false advertising. But for me, this only applies to guys who are nothing like their pictures (either different person or the same guy with a significant age gap). I won't be critical with a masseur who looks like his photos, but I can tell goes to Cici's Pizza once a month, since I'm not hiring them as an escort.