My fave escort raised his price, how do I approach this with him?

[tennisjock]

I have noticed over the years that escorts that I follow even if they are ad emit in my town may have different rates for different cities..i.e.: to cover a increased hotel room rate etc . I wait til they come to my town and just reconfirm what the rate is that is posted..it is what it is and I can elect to pay or not..I only negotiate longer sessions be it multi hour or overnite/weekend. Just imho. Fwiw

[jawjateck]

If the provider out prices himself he will eventually realize it when he does his books and sees that biz and numbers are dropping. Hopefully upon seeing he is out pricing himself he will correct his rates to reflect what the market will pay. At least that's what should be done.

 

Hugs,

Greg

 

Yep, we should think so, but some guys have received a tad too much indoctrination in alt-capitalist dogma and think they are entitled to at least the mid-point (or more) of what everyone else is charging. I have advised many providers who have difficulty figuring this stuff out.

[bigvalboy]

My favorite guy, who comes to my city every few months, raised his price above my own self-imposed limit. He's worth it and I'll probably pay up anyway.

 

I believe you answered your own question. My opinion? Pay the man his new rate, and go and enjoy yourself. The escort, who is in business, is subjected to the same rise in prices as we are. The cost of everything in life goes up, for him and for you. I personally would never ask an escort for a rate below his posted rate. I don't negotiate...But that's just me.

[TopTierTop]

I have a question for escorts. My favorite guy, who comes to my city every few months, raised his price above my own self-imposed limit. He's worth it and I'll probably pay up anyway, but I wonder if he would grandfather me in for the old rate. How would I approach that? How do escorts feel about that? I am usually loathe to quibble about rates. If it's above my limit, I just don't contact the guy. I never even talk about money with an escort unless he brings it up first. But, I haven't had the situation of a regular who raised his rates. I'd appreciate your thoughts.

I think you could simply ask if the new rate applies to you. I would be really surprised if he said yes. I can understand if he underpriced himself before, but your relationship with him started when that was his rate. I would apply the new rate to new clients only, if I were him. I mean, loyalty should be worth something.

[+ oldNbusted]

I'm thinking that @Sandlapp doesn't want to ask if the old rate would apply as that might come across as a negotiating tactic. That's why I advocate for him to simply ask the price of the session directly. Then the guy is free to say what price he wants and hopefully no one feels they were getting the short end or disrespected or anything but rewarded with a good time.

[+ purplekow]

I have a question for escorts. My favorite guy, who comes to my city every few months, raised his price above my own self-imposed limit. He's worth it and I'll probably pay up anyway, but I wonder if he would grandfather me in for the old rate. How would I approach that? How do escorts feel about that? I am usually loathe to quibble about rates. If it's above my limit, I just don't contact the guy. I never even talk about money with an escort unless he brings it up first. But, I haven't had the situation of a regular who raised his rates. I'd appreciate your thoughts.

How did you find out he raised his rates? Did you see it on an ad or did he tell you? If he told you, you can bring it up but expect that he will want his new fee. If you saw it on an ad, before your next meeting you can just say you saw his ad and saw his new price, is that for all clients or only new clients?

[+ José Soplanucas]

I'm thinking that @Sandlapp doesn't want to ask if the old rate would apply as that might come across as a negotiating tactic. That's why I advocate for him to simply ask the price of the session directly. Then the guy is free to say what price he wants and hopefully no one feels they were getting the short end or disrespected or anything but rewarded with a good time.

 

It is not a negotiating practice, it is a very extended use in the industry. Even @TopTierTop , who is well known for being a hardliner about his rate, just accepted the practice as a standard.

[MiamiLooker]

Bottom line is that the OP wants to pay a lower rate than the escort’s advertised rate. The OP wants to use the fact that he’s hired the escort before as a bargaining chip. Is this type of negotiating anything different than asking for a discount at the end of the month when the rent is due? They’re both just different means to get to the same end.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Bottom line is that the OP wants to pay a lower rate than the escort’s advertised rate. The OP wants to use the fact that he’s hired the escort before as a bargaining chip. Is this type of negotiating anything different than asking for a discount at the end of the month when the rent is due? They’re both just different means to get to the same end.

 

No, sir. The bottom line is the OP considers himself a regular and wants to know whether or not the provider would honor him with the preferential treatment that is extended practice (as we cannot talk about standards) in the industry. Therefore, he has to ask.

[MiamiLooker]

Escorts have been known to provide lower rates when they needed the money (such as when the rent is due). One might call this an "extended practice" as well.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Escorts have been known to provide lower rates when they needed the money (such as when the rent is due). One might call this an "extended practice" as well.

 

Do you want to win an argument or actually consider the specific situation of the OP?

[MiamiLooker]

No, sir. The bottom line is the OP considers himself a regular and wants to know whether or not the provider would honor him with the preferential treatment that is extended practice (as we cannot talk about standards) in the industry. Therefore, he has to ask.

Why would the OP have to ask? If the escort wants to give him a lower rate, he will without being prodded.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Why would the OP have to ask? If the escort wants to give him a lower rate, he will without being prodded.

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[MiamiLooker]

Do you want to win an argument or actually consider the specific situation of the OP?

Since when is having a simple difference of opinion an argument?

[+ José Soplanucas]

Since when is having a simple difference of opinion an argument?

 

Ooops, I apologize for that, remember some nuances of English are above my mastery of my second language. Should I have said "discussion", "debate"? I did not mean any negative connotation. It is just looks to me like instead of actually considering the OP situation in its particular context, you just want to make your point against bargaining.

And my plain is boarding. See you all later!

[MikeyGMin]

Why would the OP have to ask? If the escort wants to give him a lower rate, he will without being prodded.

This was my first thought when the whole topic came up.

[tennisjock]

The lady who cuts my hair tells me in advance that her rates are going up but also says for existing customers the new rate is blank for new customers it's a figure that is more.. I get it and I can choice to continue to go to her or not but it's a service business and it is what it is. Imho

[MiamiLooker]

...you just want to make your point against bargaining.

Where do you get the idea that I'm against bargaining (I prefer the term negotiating)?

[+ José Soplanucas]

Where do you get the idea that I'm against bargaining (I prefer the term negotiating)?

It wouldn't be the first time I misunderstand something. I though you were saying that asking about what rate is applied to the OP would be bargaining. Sorry.

[KennF]

Bottom line is that the OP wants to pay a lower rate than the escort’s advertised rate. The OP wants to use the fact that he’s hired the escort before as a bargaining chip. Is this type of negotiating anything different than asking for a discount at the end of the month when the rent is due? They’re both just different means to get to the same end.

 

I hate to disagree, but I do.

 

It is not the same thing as a rental arrangement. You've way over generalized.

 

When I start seeing a service provider (law service guy, for example), we agreed on a rate. Either it was me just accepting his rate, or us negotiating. If he later raises his advertised price, I do not expect that the rate applies to me until he personally notifies me of the change in rate.

 

This holds true in my business as well. Posted rates are for new clients, new services, and new deals. Existing customers/clients must be given direct notice that their rates are changing.

 

Especially if it is possible/probable that the future meetings/services are booked directly and not through the advertising site.

[KennF]

Why would the OP have to ask? If the escort wants to give him a lower rate, he will without being prodded.

 

I, again, disagree.

 

So, let's go with the OP's situation and plug in some fictional numbers.

 

The escort previously quoted and charged $250 per session.

The OP has seen the escort three times and given $250 (plus tip) each time.

The escort raises his rate to $300 per session. Separately, the OP notices it, but doesn't say anything.

The escort comes back into town the fourth time and texts the OP.

The OP should expect the rate is $250, not $300. And the escort may be expecting $300, not $250.

The meeting occurs and at the end, the OP goes to pay and the escort is left with the awkward moment of saying, you shorted me $50 bucks or thinking he's been shortchanged.

 

Either way, the communication is broken down and the client relationship is at risk.

 

The best way to avoid this miscue... COMMUNICATE.

 

Either confirm the rate each session, OR, when you see/make a change, just talk about it.

 

OP: You don't even have to say "I noticed your new rate." You can just say.. "I want to confirm the rate is $250." or "Thanks. Look forward to seeing you... same rate, time, place?"

[tennisjock]

I have seen one guy the past few years and his rate was always a certain amount for a two hour session. The past few times I have the rate out and he gives half back to me. ..he has done this the past few times..communication is key

[MiamiLooker]

I, again, disagree.

 

So, let's go with the OP's situation and plug in some fictional numbers.

 

The escort previously quoted and charged $250 per session.

The OP has seen the escort three times and given $250 (plus tip) each time.

The escort raises his rate to $300 per session. Separately, the OP notices it, but doesn't say anything.

The escort comes back into town the fourth time and texts the OP.

The OP should expect the rate is $250, not $300. And the escort may be expecting $300, not $250.

The meeting occurs and at the end, the OP goes to pay and the escort is left with the awkward moment of saying, you shorted me $50 bucks or thinking he's been shortchanged.

 

Either way, the communication is broken down and the client relationship is at risk.

 

The best way to avoid this miscue... COMMUNICATE.

 

Either confirm the rate each session, OR, when you see/make a change, just talk about it.

 

OP: You don't even have to say "I noticed your new rate." You can just say.. "I want to confirm the rate is $250." or "Thanks. Look forward to seeing you... same rate, time, place?"

We're not disagreeing. The OP wants to get a rate lower than the escort's current advertised rate. He can either hope the escort offers it, or the OP can ask, suggest, pretend he doesn't know, etc. If the OP is comfortable negotiating a rate with the escort, he should try.

[KennF]

@MiamiLooker Maybe you don't see it as different, but I do.

 

In your scenario, you picture the client as "wanting" a lower price. And, should bargain, negotiate, cut a deal, for the lower price.

In my scenario, I picture the client as "expecting" the same price. And, should confirm the continuance of the existing arrangement.

 

I understand your point of view, and for some people, they love to bargain, negotiate and make a deal. They get a thrill from the exchange of offer/counter-offer. But, there are others that want the service experience and feel like the "deal" takes them out of the experience.

 

Different people, different approaches.

[MiamiLooker]

@MiamiLooker Maybe you don't see it as different, but I do.

 

In your scenario, you picture the client as "wanting" a lower price. And, should bargain, negotiate, cut a deal, for the lower price.

In my scenario, I picture the client as "expecting" the same price. And, should confirm the continuance of the existing arrangement.

Why should the client expect a lower price when he knows the price has increased? To call their previous meetings an "existing arrangement" seems to imply their meeting(s) are somehow different than the escort's other client/escort meetings. The fact that the client has hired the escort before may have no more weight than other factors in getting a lower rate, like a client that lives in the same building as the escort, or a client that's really hot, or a client that's a lot less trouble than other clients. Where do you draw the line?