Alfie from Adonis

[samandtham]

(This opinion is from his Montreal days.)

 

He knows he's a fine specimen of a man: Big dick, handsome, ripped. But he's incredibly full of himself that he comes across as a douche. No thanks.

[+ BigRic]

And I've heard some guys prefer cut dick and American Muscle.

[GBoi]

I didn't work the last nude party but part of my point is that the last time I saw him a few months ago he was indeed bigger than in these photos, at least in the chest. In the many months I've worked with/around him, I've also never seen either this hairstyle or highlighting. So I surmise the pics are either very old (two years plus) or very new (and he's off cycle).

 

The other part of my point is that there are some of us with bodies that are just as much if not more "on point" who don't have the arrogant, 'everybody wants my cock' attitude. Hardoff. But he is very successful in this dancer context. Troubling IMO but that's a whole 'nother thread.

 

Not sure how I could have gotten all of that from your question but I guess it was too nuanced for me. I do not disagree that he is arrogant. Some guys like that; to be clear I do not and am not a fan of his.

 

As to your second point, I do not disparage the hard work you put into yourself. I've only met you once at Fubar but you were probably in a gaining phase. Glad to hear you're more cut now if you're similar to how Alfie looks currently.

[+ BigRic]

Glad to hear you're more cut now if you're similar to how Alfie looks currently.

 

Not sure of the appropriateness of any direct physical comparison. My points, I hope nuanced enough to not be overly ad hominem but I think specific enough to be clear, have to do with personality and the persistence of these kinds of threads often focused on guys who can't be bothered with online presence/marketing on this site or reviews. And it's not at all specific/limited to me vis-a-vis someone else.

 

You haven't given me the pleasure of reminding me here or privately of who you are. And this last remark from me isn't responding to your "on point" post. But since you bring up Fubar/Adonis, it helps me make the point when I say I've been privy to backroom conversations amongst dancers there that customers are not. And I can point to several other Adonis dancers who are in just as nice of shape who don't say the kinds of things this guy does (and who've never physically struck a fellow dancer).

 

Again, I grant that "some guys like that." But forgive me as a fellow provider if I say, again, that there's a difference between paying for that performance in a booking versus lusting after someone who isn't performing that attitude: It's who he very well is all the time. And not just per my anecdotal experience; it's per many posts here. If that's still "hotness" to someone (not you), I'd suggest therapy not a discussion forum.

 

It's just a little frustrating to see this kind of language and fetishism directed at someone problematic when some of us are out here trying to be nice guys and their best professional selves to as many customers and clients as possible.

Edited May 21, 2017 by BigRic

[wklucas]

Not sure of the appropriateness of any direct physical comparison. My points, I hope nuanced enough to not be overly ad hominem but I think specific enough to be clear, have to do with personality and the persistence of these kinds of threads often focused on guys who can't be bothered with online presence/marketing on this site or reviews. And it's not at all specific/limited to me vis-a-vis someone else.

 

You haven't given me the pleasure of reminding here or privately of who you are. And this last remark from me isn't responding to your "on point" post. But since you bring up Fubar/Adonis, it helps me make the point when I say I've been privy to backroom conversations amongst dancers there that customers are not. And I can point to several other Adonis dancers who are in just as nice of shape who don't say the kinds of things this guy does (and who've never physically struck a fellow dancer).

 

Again, I grant that "some guys like that." But forgive me as a fellow provider if I say, again, that there's a difference between paying for that performance in a booking versus lusting after someone who isn't performing that attitude: It's who he very well is all the time. And not just per my anecdotal experience; it's per many posts here. If that's still "hotness" to someone (not you), I'd suggest therapy not a discussion forum.

 

It's just a little frustrating to see this kind of language and fetishism directed at someone problematic when some of us are out here trying to be nice guys and their best professional selves to as many customers and clients as possible.

 

The total sum of your postings in this thread denigrating / demeaning Alfie while subtly & not-so subtly trying to pump yourself leaves me finding you more unattractive than I did before.....your previous low point - a couple/few weeks ago when, after a fellow member's request, you posted that you could not take the time to post a pic of another escort that you said was in your possession....you stated that you were too busy promoting yourself and actively only pursuing clients for yourself.....sheesh.....

& btw, when / if I hire a "straight" guy like Alfie w/a specific attitude....not always but sometimes I'll make my own fun & take on the demeanor & tell the guy to cut the crap & tell him that I know that I'm doing "things" that feel good to him & that he is enjoying......(no guy has hurt or killed me yet for taking that approach.....but then I'm v v good at what I do too.....& I think, generally regarded as a v v good client).

[+ BigRic]

. . . a couple/few weeks ago when, after a fellow member's request, you posted that you could not take the time to post a pic of another escort that you said was in your possession....you stated that you were too busy promoting yourself and actively only pursuing clients for yourself.....sheesh.....

 

I think you might be referring to this post about hottie boy Blake:

 

If so inclined, one is welcome to check the Adonis Website to see if (a) photo(s) of a dancer has/have been posted there. But the pictures in question are sent out via the e-mails promoting which guys are appearing at what venue of any given night. And I'm too busy with my own clients and travels to post the image to my Photobucket so I can then link to it every time I happen to see one of these type threads and choose to be helpful to a fellow Adonis hottie.

 

But the basic question the OP was wondering about has been answered. From personal experience.

 

If so, it's not quite accurate to say that I said Blake's pics are/were in my "possession." I said that those pics are available to anyone who receives the Adonis e-mails. In other words, I think it should be clear to anyone without a critical agenda regarding me that I'm not 'holding out' on providing something that's not widely available elsewhere. It's a way of promoting Adonis not just 'pimping' personal faves, see?

 

I don't (yet?) have a working relationship with Blake (although we may work something out in terms of my hosting him the next time he comes to LA, which I have done for several fellow dancers when they've come to town over the past couple of years because I'm known as a solid host and a good dude) and he did not ask me to post his pictures. If he had, I would.

 

Your comments intimate that you might be under the misperception that my primary goal on these pages is to promote other guys. At the same time, I think it's plain to anyone who pays even modest attention to my posts that it's not accurate to say my participation here is about "actively only pursuing clients for [myself]." My comments in that regard were about what is and is not practical to do every time someone asks for pictures that, again, can be found fairly easily elsewhere.

[mike carey]

@BigRic, your characterisation of your interventions here is the same one as I had drawn from what you say. I struggle to see some of the adverse implications that have been drawn.

[john1973]

Thanks for the info and thoughtful replies, BigRic!

[+ goosh69]

This whole thread is unnecessarily mean.

[Guest RexB]

This whole thread is unnecessarily mean.

 

After all that has any contact info for him been provided?

[+ BigRic]

Thanks for the appreciative comments/support, gents (to those of you for whom that applies). LOL.

 

After all that has any contact info for him been provided?

 

Hi, @RexB.

 

Part of the answer to your (and OP @Westsideguy's) question is a component of my point: All this attention is focused on someone who (likely) does not consider himself an "escort," does not have an ad online and, again, to my understanding does not do "privates" in the proper sense of that word (meeting someone away from the club or bar he's dancing at). If someone wants to meet a dancer or escort so situated, the likely best bet is to go to the club where he's performing.

 

If one were to contact Adonis bosses, they wouldn't give out contact info (and neither do I, and I have Alfie's phone number). That's usually out of respect for the dancer's/escort's request and also as a practical matter: "We'd" be constantly giving out guys' info if that was something that wasn't generally frowned upon. And frankly in the case of Adonis, of course management would rather you came out and saw the dancer in public after paying a cover charge. That's business.

 

Meanwhile back at the RM ranch, there are tons of guys with readily available means of contact. But some guys don't want that, right? They not only like the chase, but they wanna chase after the Bad Boy. Some may consider it "unattractive" for me to call that out, but I'm just suggesting that it's something some of us need to look at. Critically.

[+ goosh69]

You can reach via his Instagram which was provided. I've seen him at Adonis LA. Nice body, not for me though. He was polite when I declined a dance.

[Westsideguy]

I started this thread. I saw Alfie at nude party and he was nice and fun. I had several great lap dances with him. He was very receptive. I just left without discussing a further meeting with him. Maybe I'll go see if he's there on Sunday.

[EZEtoGRU]

This whole thread is unnecessarily mean.

 

You're right. Some folks just can't let go. Sounds like deep-seated professional jealousy to me.

[+ azdr0710]

just got the Adonis LA email....Alfie is scheduled to be at Adonis at Fubar Sunday eve

[Westsideguy]

Thanks. I will be there on Sunday. I got no negative vibes from him at all. I agree with EZE.

[+ BigRic]

You're right. Some folks just can't let go. Sounds like deep-seated professional jealousy to me.

 

LMAO re "professional jealousy." Yeah, and Meryl Streep is "overrated."

 

Dude, Alfie is a professional photographer. And escorting is not my passionate, primary, professional calling in life (I'm sure some of you are saying to yourselves, "Thank goddess!" LOL.) Yet another example of how some (gay) dudes' myopic over-concentration on any one thing produces distortion.

 

I've obviously ruffled some feathers. I apologize for any umbrage that could reasonably be taken from anything I've had to say about the handsome Hungarian.

 

Having said that, I have no problem admitting to professional jealousy . . . of Tom Cruise and Oprah.

 

And Ryan Steel.

Edited May 24, 2017 by BigRic

[+ Gar1eth]

Saw Alfie at the nude party, but didn't get a chance to talk with him. Anyone know if he does privates and how to contact him? Please pm me. Thanks so much

 

So I guess in essence you could say your question, @Westsideguy, boils down to, "What's it all about, Alfie?"

 

 

Gman

 

PS I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that no one else seems to have even thought of this.

[BabyBoomer]

Alfie

 

 

 

 

Did you notice the picture of "Alfie" in the background?

 

~Boomer ~

[j0ck7]

http://theadonislounge.com/la/guest-stars/

 

Some guest stars are very hot.

[wklucas]

Some guest stars are very hot.

 

Anthony (not Anthony T)....in the NY dancer listings with multiple pics & listed as a guest dancer from NYC in LA - head over heels beyond hot !!

[+ BigRic]

So I guess in essence you could say your question, @Westsideguy, boils down to, "What's it all about, Alfie?"

 

 

 

 

Gman

 

PS I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that no one else seems to have even thought of this.

 

Hehe.

 

FWIW I enjoyed the Jude Law (2004) "remake" more than expected.

 

(P.S. - Dionne got her teeth did at some point.)

[Brutus]

For more up to date photos, his Instagram handle is alfiecinematic . However, having met him in Montreal at Stock Bar a few years ago, he's a class A douchebag. Air of arrogance as if he's all that and a tendency to con you of your $$ if you're not careful. Looking at his Instagram videos and stories, the way he talks and carries himself today is very much so the same as he was in Montreal. For anyone considering him for a private, proceed with caution!

First hand experience here. Couldn't agree more.

[+ BigRic]

Props to Alfie for today's Adonis Los Angeles photo shoot. He shot over 20 guys individually at Fubar and then we went up into the Hollywood Hills/Mount Olympus area for some group shots, the latter being unprecedented for Adonis in that kind of outdoor environment.

 

The latter part of the shoot was kinda hot and sweaty. For those fellow, um, cultural anthropologists out there, it felt to me like old school William Higgins: Sailor In the Wild. LOL. Lots of women and a few dudes jogging by, staring at all the shirtless hotties . . . asking questions about what we were doing . . . and asking for photos.

 

Look for some of these pics to start populating to Adonis marketing soon: the Website, the e-mails and GED.

 

(P.S. - Of course, like he's hustled me for some of the wine I bring for myself when I tend bar at the nude parties, Alfie hustled me for some of my Gatorade while we were climbing up and shooting in the Hills. Of course, I obliged. LOL. Nice calves, too.)

[Nebost]

So I guess in essence you could say your question, @Westsideguy, boils down to, "What's it all about, Alfie?"

 

 

Gman

 

PS I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that no one else seems to have even thought of this.

 

 

I actually asked Alfie "what's it all about?" during a private dance at StockBar. Yeah, I'm cliche like that. That's when he smiled, dropped his g-string, and buried my head in his crotch. He is a good sport!