OUCH!!! Bull gores 11-inch horn up matador’s butt

[mike carey]

If in doubt google, I did and I found Cecina. It's cured beef (or horse or goat, or rabbit or hare). So, like ham, but not ham.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecina_(meat)

[+ deej]

You can also get beef bacon (common in Kosher burger joints), but it should be called "bacon" because it's not quite the same.

[+ deej]

http://www.proveedores.com/proveedores/la-taverna-del-jamon-del-toro/

 

Interesting. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham

 

Ham is pork that has been preserved through salting, smoking, or wet curing.[1] It was traditionally made only from the hind leg of swine, and referred to that specific cut of pork.[2] Ham is made around the world, including a number of highly coveted regional specialties, such as Westphalian ham and Jamón serrano. Technically a processed meat, "ham" may refer to a product which has been through mechanical re-forming.

 

The precise nature of meat termed "ham" is controlled in a number of areas, often by statute, including the United States and European Union. In addition, numerous ham products have specific geographical naming protection, such as Prosciutto di Parma and Prosciutto Toscano PDO in Europe, and Smithfield ham in the US.

[marylander1940]

You can also get beef bacon (common in Kosher burger joints), but it should be called "bacon" because it's not quite the same.

 

 

If in doubt google, I did and I found Cecina. It's cured beef (or horse or goat, or rabbit or hare). So, like ham, but not ham.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecina_(meat)

 

Soy burgers and baconless bacon too.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarian_bacon

[MikeBiDude]

Soy burgers and baconless bacon too.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarian_bacon

One of my family's standards over the years available in soy. GMO worries?

http://www.slim-shoppin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DSC06510.jpg

[mike carey]

/rant/ Bacon and ham are things, they are made from pork. That is all. There are substitutes that assuage the feelings and prejudices of non-pork eaters and non-meat eaters. These substitutes are not bacon or ham, they are substitutes. There are also foods that are made from other meats using the same processes that are used for bacon and ham. These may be delicious but they are not bacon or ham but I will eat them and love them. /end rant/

[MikeBiDude]

/rant/ Bacon and ham are things, they are made from pork. That is all. There are substitutes that assuage the feelings and prejudices of non-pork eaters and non-meat eaters. These substitutes are not bacon or ham, they are substitutes. There are also foods that are made from other meats using the same processes that are used for bacon and ham. These may be delicious but they are not bacon or ham but I will eat them and love them. /end rant/

Maybe you need to be more open minded

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ham

[Chuckball]

I am a meat eater. But I demand that any meat I eat be from animals slaughtered in humane ways. I will not eat meat from hunters and I would support that sport being outlawed.

[AndreFuture]

The bulls who are used for bullfighting live for 5 years in a field, mating and enjoying life as close as possible to nature, on the contrary the ones who are used for ham and other products only live 1 year a fenced area. Yes, the bulls are teased and attacked and they also defend themselves like they did in this case.

 

Do you eat chicken or pork? Pigs live confined in "gestation crates" which in some cases drives them mad.

 

http://www.snopes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/pig-crates.png

 

http://indianapublicmedia.org/eartheats/files/2012/05/gestation-crates.

 

This is a picture from a Spanish pig farm, what do you think is more humane?

No, I don't eat animals, partially for the reason you've listed (but also human and environmental impacts). Torturing and killing someone else for a 10 minute meal isn't something I can... swallow

[marylander1940]

No, I don't eat animals, partially for the reason you've listed (but also human and environmental impacts). Torturing and killing someone else for a 10 minute meal isn't something I can... swallow

 

To each his own.

 

If you want to start a thread about vegetarianism, please do it.

[AdamSmith]

It's a bit strange to read that the "shocking" bit of this story isn't torturing an animal to death but getting attacked in the process. I guess sadism is ok if you can turn it into a flashy profession.

Agree. The matador got what he deserved.

[AndreFuture]

To each his own.

 

If you want to start a thread about vegetarianism, please do it.

I was simply replying to your questions, sir. I dont have any desire to start an entire thread about it.

[AdamSmith]

I was simply replying to your questions, sir. I dont have any desire to start an entire thread about it.

No, no! Play Trump here. Say:

 

"No, YOU do it!"

 

[AndreFuture]

No, no! Play Trump here. Say:

 

"No, YOU do it!"

 

 

My thread will be great. Huge.

[mike carey]

Maybe you need to be more open minded

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ham

That sort of ham I can relate to!