BB Pro Introducing Himself

[BB Pro]

Hey All –

New member saying hello. I’ve been a big time user of Hooboy but I’m a newbie to the message board. I’ve been a lurker for several years – just reading but never posting. But that changes until I get kicked out. Some might say I’m opinionated but in reality I can care less about most things. It’s just that I’m a huge smartass with a lot of down time on my hands.

 

No I am not a professional barebacker (rodeo or otherwise) nor am I a professional bodybuilder. BB Pro stands for baseball. I’m lucky and talented enough to be a professional baseball player and yeah it takes both talent and luck to make it. With 81 road games, I travel extensively and I use Hooboy to find hot, discrete boys to play with when out of town. I’m usually only available during the mornings and early afternoons and I got tired of all the chat room crap. Hooboy provides me with a way to find some of the hottest guys on my terms. Who cares if I have to pay for it – I have more money than I can spend anyway. I’ve been with over 20 escorts but have never reviewed any. I must say that most of the reviews are very accurate. I’ve only had one bad experience and I suspect the escort posted his own reviews. Who knows, maybe I will start posting reviews although then it would be possible for some of you sport nuts to figure out who I am.

[Boston Guy]

BB:

 

Welcome to the Message Center. :-)

 

You won't be the first opinionated guy here and probably not even the most opinionated and new voices are always welcome. It sounds like your background is different than that of a lot of guys here so you'll bring a great, new perspective.

 

BG

[PacNW]

You Tease! Taking you at face value ... man, are you gonna drive me nuts. BB players make for some great fantasy material for me, and any stories you care to share, within your discretion comfort level, will be greatly appreciated here.

 

One escort I was with had some stories about being a kept boy for a pro player for a while. Not enough for an ID and I didn't press him, but the whole idea was a big turnon.

[Rick Munroe]

Welcome (and I'm glad the BB wasn't bareback). I don't follow sports at all. Are there any openly gay baseball players? Are you?

[+ nycman]

Welcome!

 

Welcome on board Bro!

 

You'll soon discover that you're not the only opinionated one around here. Hell, we've got doctors, hairdressers, lawyers, house husbands, mechanics, psychologists, organists, and more than likely a few members of the white house staff on here...why not a professional athlete!

 

I have to admit I admire the courage it must have taken to identify yourself as a baseball player in your first post! It makes perfect sense to me that you hire rent boys. My career also keeps me extremely busy and I frequently travel. I simply don’t have the time for chasing men around bars or endless online chatting every time I happen to get horny. Ordering out in my life is a simple convenience that I’m more than happy to pay for. Actually I tend to think of it as a “business expense”. If I get to have sex when I want, how I want, with whom I want…and then get back to work and am 10 times more productive…then it’s fucking forth it 100 times over. Now if I could only get my accountant to agree…..!

 

Anyways, just wanted to say welcome, have fun, and be your opinionated self. In time, I’m sure each of us will learn to hate you because of it, and love you in spite of it!

[PacNW]

'Fraid not, Rick. At least not active players. Of course, there's speculation like with any celebrities, but to date, only retired players have come out to the public.

 

A couple years ago Billy Bean wrote up his story after finishing his (not particularly exceptional) major league career. Some of it was sad, with what he had to forgo in staying in the closet. The most interesting part for me was his description of how young players with promise get fast-tracked onto a pro career when they're 14 or 15, before they've come to terms with their sexuality. By the time they've gone through Little League, high school, college, minor leagues, then the majors, they've been on a very focussed course for several years. If somewhere along the way, they realize their difference from the other guys, well, that just gets pushed aside so as not to interfere with that all-important career track. And, from what I can tell, there's not a big support group available, to say the least.

[Txpaytoplay]

Welcome aboard....I am a Ranger fan....Now when I go to the games I will be looking not only for the cutest asses at the plate but now I will look for the one guy that could be!!!!:-) :-)

 

Seriously though, if you have lurked as long as you have said, you have gotten the feel for the place. Smartass or not...I sure your post will be good for a few laughs anyway. Again welcome...

[Guest alanm]

I am a huge baseball fan and live very near the Four Seasons Hotel in Philadelphia where many National League teams stay. I often stop at the bar in the hotel (not just during the baseball season) for a drink after work and have had casual convsations with players like J. D. Drew and Steve Finley, neither of whom is gay. So by accident, I have some idea of what life on the road is like for ball players, beyond knowing that they get to stay at great hotels.

 

Could you provide a little more information about what life is like for a gay major league baseball player in a very general way that would never reveal your identidy? I would certainly understand if you decided not to do this. It took a lot of courage to post in the first place. A LOT OF COURAGE!

[Guest ncm2169]

< I’m a huge smartass

 

As noted by others, you're in very good company here. }(

 

Welcome BB!

[Rick Munroe and Derek Ross]

RE: Welcome!

 

>I have to admit I admire the courage it must have taken to

>identify yourself as a baseball player in your first post!

 

Why was it courageous? He didn't tell us who he is. This is an anonymous message board. We don't even know if he really is a baseball player.

 

Oops...I meant to post this as just Rick...I had signed on to do a Travel post. My bad.

[Rick Munroe]

>It took a lot of

>courage to post in the first place. A LOT OF COURAGE!

 

Again I ask, in all seriousness, how is it courageous to post anonymously on an anonymous message board? If he really is a pro baseball player and he posted his real name and decided to come out of the closet, that would be courageous.

[Guest Mikel]

Wondering if you are the pro ball player referenced in association with Kristian/LA? Or was that an Olympian??

 

At any rate, finally publishing on this board is the first of many steps to coming out! Did you know that???...please don't go into hiding. You have a perspective that will ignite this board! Truly.

[PacNW]

Perhaps ... courage ... if not exactly ... COURAGE. A matter of degree, but there is an element of courageousness in his action (and again, assuming legitimacy). If for no other reason than that he's set himself up for crazed fans like me to pelt him with requests for stories that I'd never ask for from hair stylists, architects, or proctologists. Any crack in what by all accounts is a severely homophobic institution can't but be a good thing.

 

BTW, BB ... the whole idea got me all worked up and I forgot my manners. :7 Welcome to the MC. And to misquote: "Fasten your seatbelt. It's going to be an interesting ride."

[Boston Guy]

Rick,

 

With all due respect, I think you often seriously underestimate the issues and challenges faced by guys who are in the closet and who may live in conservative small towns, work in conservative industries, or who may simply come from a background full of conservative family and friends. For guys in these kinds of situations, coming out publicly can realistically set in motion a chain of events that can destroy their lives as they know it.

 

We've all known guys who came out, became estranged from their families and friends (including, sometimes, their children), ended up losing theirs jobs, and found themselves in a very lonely place. It's easy for guys who are out -- and even easier for guys who live in gay ghettos -- to overlook or underestimate the difficulties and challenges some people face when coming out or even considering it.

 

From what we know of your background, you've been with Derek since you were both teenagers. That's a terrific thing and I congratulate you both on it; you're both very lucky. But -- and, again, with all due respect -- you also haven't been in position where you started realizing that you might be gay but also knew that everybody and everything in your life frowned on gay people and gay lifestyles.

 

You frequently express a distaste for the terms "gay lifestyle" and "straight-acting". As someone who has been out for a long time, I can understand where you're coming from. But most people in this country have a definite understanding of what "gay lifestyle" means to them: it means being out and living as a gay person. And, unfortunately, a lot of people still really don't like it.

 

I hope we'll get to a point where that's not true. But that's neither here nor there when someone is wondering what coming out will do to their job, especially when they live and work in states and industries that offer no protection against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

 

To get back to your original question, why was it courageous for our new friend to post here? I can think of a number of reasons:

 

1) It's his first post here. Lots of guys have posted here and, in their first post, said something like "I've been going to post here for the longest time but just never got the nerve." Working up to posting on a board like this, even anonymously, can seem like a big deal when you haven't done it before.

 

2) He's revealed to a group of people that he's a gay professional baseball player. Sure, he's done it anonymously. But, to my knowledge, no professional baseball player has ever come out publicly while they were still playing pro ball. If he were to come out publicly and not anonymously, he'd very possibly lose his job and the income and benefits that come with that. That's a big deal. So, yes, I think it took courage to come on here and identify himself even as he did. Hell, lots of guys here have never even identified the industry they work in, much less the kind of job they hold -- much less on their first post.

 

I'm not writing this to put you down; I respect the positions you hold and generally hold positions similar to yours. But you haven't been a middle-aged guy thinking about coming out, even on an anonymous message board, facing all of the fears that someone in that position can face. You and I can say those fears are not realistic but that does nothing at all to minimize the fear. Worse, some of the things that people worry about when they're coming out are real fears: family and friends and employers don't always respond kindly.

 

I've helped lots of guys come out over the years. Usually it goes well and I'm always supportive and encouraging. But it can be terrifying from the point of view of a middle-aged guy in a conservative place and it's not helpful at all when we try to dismiss or put down those fears.

 

BG

[jackhammer91406]

I am a huge baseball fan, so I welcome you to the group. Others have said it with more eloquence, but I had half a Dodger Dog in my mouth as I typed this...does that count?

[Funseeker 22]

Hey BB,

Welcome to the Board !

Now see what you started with your very first post. :-) :-)

P.S. National or American League ? ;-)

[Guest ncm2169]

< but I had half a Dodger Dog in my mouth as I typed this...does that count?

 

Nice try. :+

[trilingual]

Hey, BB, you don't have to give anything away about yourself if you don't want to. Please consider submitting your reviews. They'll be a good contribution to the board, and there won't be any way for readers to identify you if you stick to the specifics of the encounter and don't mention any details about your work life. If you feel you must, you can be more general than you have been here on the board by just saying you're a professional athlete in a major league sport and leaving it at that. Of course, if your escort experiences require doing things in the dugout or locker room while dressed in your uniform and involve your baseball bat you might have a harder time maintaining your anonymity! Otherwise, welcome to Hooville!!!

[+ nycman]

RE: Welcome!

 

>Why was it courageous?....

 

Because this dude has a lot more to loose than I do if he's:

 

a) identified as queer

b) hires prostitutes

and

c) is a professional athlete.

 

While I doubt my career would come to a screaming halt, I'm not so sure that his wouldn't. Nonetheless, I choose not to reveal my career. He does. In my book that takes balls. And don't tell me there aren't 25 guys already trying to figure out who he is. Even if I gave you my name, phone number, and home address....I doubt anyone here would give a shit. The stakes are different for him. The bottom line is he's taking a risk in spite of those high stakes and I admire him for that.

 

Granted it's an anonymous message board, and he could be a 12 year-old girl in Idaho for all we know. I choose to take it at face value and belive that there's a dude out there who's opening the professional closet door a crack. It may not be the out, loud, and proud person that you choose to be, but it still takes balls.

[Guest alanm]

Basball may be the most difficult sport for a gay man because the season is so long (now in spring training to late September, longer if your team gets into the playoffs and World Series)with games almost every day, half away from home. You spend the majority of your time with your 24 macho teammates who are mostly very hostile to gays.

 

The teammates are only part of the problem. Here in Philadelphia, fans have thrown batteries and worse at players on the field whom they dislike. Can you imagine the comments that people would yell out from the stands at a gay player? The fans are not necessarily all homophobic, more likely looking for any edge to unsettle a visiting player or team and win the game for the home team.

 

I actually regretted naming a specific hotel in Philadelphia. If the OP should respond that he is familar with the hotel (very unlikely), that alone would start a guessing game, because not all visiting teams may stay at the Four Seasons Hotel in Philadelphia. Even mentioning Drew and Finley identifies a specific team for real baseball fans, although I was careful to say that both players were straight.

 

If the OP is really a major league baseball player, Boston Guy is right, posting on this site may be a first step to a more open life.

More likely, the number of responses may mean that we will never hear from him again.

[Laurent]

BB Pro, add one more baseball fan to your welcoming committee. I'm not sure whether my biggest regret about my city is that it doesn't have a professional baseball team or that it's not on an ocean or one of the great lakes. As often happens here, Boston Guy has already said essentially what I think. I won't be able to resist some silent speculation as I watch games this season, but I promise never to ask a personal question of you.

[OneFinger]

BB Pro,

 

Welcome to the group. I'm not a BIG baseball fan but I've been known to go to bat for close friends and I fielded a couple foul balls in the past. I've been around the bases a few times and struck out more times than I care to mention.

 

Do we have anything in common? :+

[Flower]

RE: Welcome!

 

>The stakes are different for him. The bottom line is he's taking a

>risk in spite of those high stakes and I admire him for that.

>

>Granted it's an anonymous message board, and he could be a 12

>year-old girl in Idaho for all we know. I choose to take it at

>face value and belive that there's a dude out there who's

>opening the professional closet door a crack. It may not be

>the out, loud, and proud person that you choose to be, but it

>still takes balls.

>I choose to take it at

>face value and belive that there's a dude out there who's

>opening the professional closet door a crack. It may not be

>the out, loud, and proud person that you choose to be, but it

>still takes balls.

Damn--you impress easily, and so gullible.

 

ASSUMING he is a pro BB player, which I doubt, there are thousands, so even if he's telling the truth, he's still anonymous and plenty safe.

 

And what real motive would there be for a real BB player to post and announce that he is one--why not just say professional athlete, or just athlete, or just "Hi I'm a guy that hires escorts" pure and simple. The fact that he has made the point to even identify himself as such indicates he's trying to impress a board of bored anonymous chatters--which to me casts doubts on his credibility in and of itself!

 

But please--carry on, believe and be impressed and treat him with the reverence his stated stature may deserve. I for one, take it with a grain of salt and his posts will develop his persona soon enough }(

[bigguyinpasadena]

Hmmmmm,,,Baseball,,,,thats the one with the stick thingy right?

[digicamman]

Will the REAL digicamman step OUT of the closet?

 

Hi guys--as long as BB has been so courageous, then I guess I'll take a chance also--while I've be checking out this MC for some time now and even engaging escorts secretly, I've posted very little due to the secretive nature of my job--you see, I'm really a secret agent type, young, virile and VGL and extremely well hung--not a photographer at all! damn--it feels so good to get that off my shoulders.

 

While I have both guys and woman hangin on me all the time since I'm so hot and VGL, I truly prefer guys so does that make me gay? Sure does. But as courageous as I am in real life, I am even more courageous on this anonymous MC just telling you that someone as hot as I, who is also a secret agent, is also gay. NO WAY YOU SAY? Well, bros--WAY!!!

 

Never mind that I could be thrown out of the Agency if they found out--just know that I am willing to put it all at risk for you guys and your attention, respect, and admiration--so I guess that means I have Balls as well as a big dick then--right?

 

What--you say there are more secret agents than you can shake a stick at? Well, so what--I'm still courageous just for telling you, albeit anonymously, that I'm gay and narrowing the field ever-so-slightly for all of you guys who are seriously going to be trying to out me to my employer. Well, enough for my first post under my true annonymous identity--maybe you could form a line to the left to kiss my ass