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jjkrkwood Grand Master

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YES, Ryan Murphy's NEW show is much anticipated. I mean, look who's playing the 2 most infamous Divas. I have a boner already.... Cant wait for the Elton john/Madonna feud.

jjkrkwood Grand Master

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Excited about the subject, the concept, the actresses.

 

Not excited about Ryan Murphy. His shows are awful.

 

 

I guess the Hollywood Foreign Press didnt get YOUR memo, and awarded him a shitload of Golden Globes for "The People vs OJ" limited series event. Also his American Crime stories series is doing great, and American Horror Story continues to fascinate. So much for awful....

glennnn Mentor

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These shows based on recent famous people from recent history are always especially diverting to those of us old enough to have lived through the actual events. We are at once more interested and more critical. It usually starts with the physical appearance of the actors or actresses. In this case, Sarandon is much closer to Davis in appearance than Lange is to Crawford, but they both have the talent to disappear into a role. It has the potential to be brilliant and I can't wait to see it.

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These shows based on recent famous people from recent history are always especially diverting to those of us old enough to have lived through the actual events. We are at once more interested and more critical. It usually starts with the physical appearance of the actors or actresses. In this case, Sarandon is much closer to Davis in appearance than Lange is to Crawford, but they both have the talent to disappear into a role. It has the potential to be brilliant and I can't wait to see it.

 

Part of the experience is suspending belief.. In this case Both ladies are stellar actresses, and I am sure will pull this off and make us BELIEVE ? Lange ALWAYS becomes her character.

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You know, I always loved Bette. She was so out there. Joan, on the other hand was so piss elegant, yet needy that she gave me a pain in my ass. I enjoyed her movies, (especially her early ones), but didn't like her.

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You know, I always loved Bette. She was so out there. Joan, on the other hand was so piss elegant, yet needy that she gave me a pain in my ass. I enjoyed her movies, (especially her early ones), but didn't like her.

Pausing from reminding Crawford (again) that Franchot Tone always said she gave better blowjobs than Joan did, Bette thanks you.

jjkrkwood Grand Master

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No, they stopped taking my memos after I called them out for the whole Pia Zadora fiasco.

 

So it was YOU that got her blackballed from Hollywood ? I was wondering about her, but I think our New president refers to her as Pee Pee Zadora....? :p

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So it was YOU that got her blackballed from Hollywood ? I was wondering about her, but I think our New president refers to her as Pee Pee Zadora....? :p

She's hysterical in her Hairspray cameo. And who doesn't love Santa Claus Conquers the Martians?

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Angelenos can relate to Bette Davis's famous advice (cut-and-paste from wiki):

 

In Los Angeles, Fountain Avenue is a minor east-west street, between and parallel to Sunset Boulevard and Santa Monica Boulevard, two very congested arteries. Therefore, when Johnny Carson asked Bette Davis for advice on "the best way an aspiring starlet could get into Hollywood," Ms. Davis replied without hesitation, "Take Fountain!"[3]

 

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In Los Angeles, Fountain Avenue is a minor east-west street, between and parallel to Sunset Boulevard and Santa Monica Boulevard, two very congested arteries. Therefore, when Johnny Carson asked Bette Davis for advice on "the best way an aspiring starlet could get into Hollywood," Ms. Davis replied without hesitation, "Take Fountain!"[3]

And there's art ...

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lkbreth Contributor

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Angelenos can relate to Bette Davis's famous advice (cut-and-paste from wiki):

 

Ms. Davis replied without hesitation, "Take Fountain!"

 

This driving advice still applies.

lkbreth Contributor

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Excited about the subject, the concept, the actresses.

 

Not excited about Ryan Murphy. His shows are awful.

 

I personally can't think of anyone other than Murphy who could potentially do this show.

Although I agree both he and the show have a lot of potential for campy excess, the EW article indicates that this was restrained. I also found it interesting that Lange had never seen Mommie Dearest, which is also good in a sense that she won't be able to pull any of that either consciously or subconsciously for her portrayal.

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I personally can't think of anyone other than Murphy who could potentially do this show.

Although I agree both he and the show have a lot of potential for campy excess, the EW article indicates that this was restrained. I also found it interesting that Lange had never seen Mommie Dearest, which is also good in a sense that she won't be able to pull any of that either consciously or subconsciously for her portrayal.

I'll definitely watch this one. Look fascinating. (And just to be up front, I did not watch the OJ thing; maybe Mr Murphy now makes television I will enjoy ;) )

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I can say in all honesty that I NEVER liked either of them.

 

I always thought Bette Davis over acted everything she did. Even Davis’ running mascara became tiresome after a while.

 

To me no matter what role Joan Crawford played she ALWAYS came across as a fucking bitch. Additionally I NEVER found her elegant or attractive.

 

They were the two 30’s and 40’s actresses that I have NOT missed.

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In this case, Sarandon is much closer to Davis in appearance than Lange is to Crawford…

 

At first glance, I thought Lange looked more like Joan Fontaine than Joan Crawford. Still, unless the scripts simply stink, the series should be campy fun, even if not great art.

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At first glance, I thought Lange looked more like Joan Fontaine than Joan Crawford. Still, unless the scripts simply stink, the series should be campy fun, even if not great art.

 

Joan Fontaine, semi-talented sister of Olivia de Havilland, who is one of the greats. There's another feud for Murphy to dramatize. Fontaine's supposed beauty and charm always escaped me, while Olivia was golden.

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Joan Fontaine, semi-talented sister of Olivia de Havilland, one of the greats. There's another dude for Murphy to dramatize.

 

Yes, a female Cain and Abel story. Expect for the murder.

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