When to clean, etc.

[pierrot]

A two questions for experienced bottoms --

1. how far in advance of sex do you douche? I'd read somewhere that, using an enema bag, you should do it about an hour ahead.

2. how much water do use? Do you just use enough to clean the lower part, or do you try to wash higher up by using more water?

I ask because I've tried different combinations of the above, but have been unable to find a standard that always works perfectly.

[JT Brooklyn]

IMHO..Prep work for the Bottom guy is a very individual thing. For many reasons. First of all what you have, that you have to get rid of? What did you eat, in the last 24 hrs? I personally, since I donot Bottom but maybe every 3 weeks, do all "I" require. Both Fleet Enema, about 3 hrs before Party Time. Then I water douche, slow stream of warm water thru tube, also using The Best Dr.Bronner's Peppermint "Organic liquid Soap"..One guy I hangout with, likes to Rim. Says I always have a great Sexy Smell and taste.. The Party Hats ALWAYS are as clean, when we take them off! As they were when we put them on! This guy is a True 9" So you know all my "Territory" was definitely explored. We play for 2-3 hrs also.. This is my Routine as a Bottom. I am sure every guy has to find his own way on this.. :+ :+ :+

[guptasa1]

I'm still learning myself, so please don't consider me a veteran or anything - lol. Lately, I've been using fleet enemas, and I find ideally I shoot for maybe...20 minutes to a half hour before sex. I don't really think an hour is necessary (for me anyways), though I'm pretty sure that would be fine. I've also been in situations where sex followed almost immediately after enema use, and that actually worked better than I thought it would too (I just like to wait for all discomfort to go away before going for it). For me, it's most important to be thorough (holding the enema for as long as possible and then washing out with additional water afterwards) and less important when the sex happens after. At least, that's my experience so far, but I'm still learning too as I said. lol

[Athan]

>A two questions for experienced bottoms --

>1. how far in advance of sex do you douche? I'd read somewhere

>that, using an enema bag, you should do it about an hour

>ahead.

>2. how much water do use? Do you just use enough to clean the

>lower part, or do you try to wash higher up by using more

>water?

>I ask because I've tried different combinations of the above,

>but have been unable to find a standard that always works

>perfectly.

 

Here is what I do:

 

2 hours before meeting anyone who wants to top me arrives(which bottoming is what I usually do, so I do this quite often) I begin my proccess (1 hour to clean and 1 hour to freshen up and shave and what not). I personally, since I bottom so often, have a hydrocolonics hose attached to my shower head. I would suggest anyone who plans to bottom often have one of these. You can buy them at some sex shops, most fetish shops or on the internet. They are simply a metal hose with an easy to insert tube-like nosel.

Anyway, I spend about an hour douching because I clean out all the way to my ascending colon. Meaning there is nothing in my large intestine when I am getting fucked. this, for me makes for a very comfortable experience, I am clean enough to eat out of. (hehehehe :+ ) and I am good to go for up to 8 hours if I don't eat, 4 hours if I do. The technique to using the hose is to start slowly, of course, cleaning out first your rectum, then inserting the tube and (at least this is what I do) get on elbows and knees to let gravity help the water along. It would help to focus your attention on relaxation and do some deep breathing, this will help your bowels relax. When you feel like you can't take any more water, get up, remove the tube, and "flush". Repeat this proccess until you feel empty inside (physically, not emotionally, hehehehe) and the water that comes out is clear. It also helps to massage your stomach in a clockwise direction (from your lower right side above your hip up to just under your ribs then left to the other side and down to your lower left side and the back to the right to complet the circle). Also, if you feel like water is stuck in your ascending colon (the right side of your large intestine) it helps to stand up with your torso hanging down to let gravity pull the water up to your transverse colon then as you rise lean to the left and massage accordingly and you should be able to feel where the water is and get it out.

Then, of course, after the whole proccess (plan to take an hour if you do it as thoroughly as I do) it is always nice to take a shower and wash all your nooks and cranies.

Don't forget to moisturize after the shower to keep your skin silky smooth!

Since we are on the topic of hygene, here's a tip to all clients and anyone else who needs to hear it out there (not aimed at anyone in particular), the strongest sense linked to attraction is smell. There have acctually been studies conducted where the not so attractive but better smelling person gets the date opposed to the better looking but foul smelling one. So make sure you have fresh breath and no B.O. when you meet someone for some fun (unless they specifically state that they are into funk and b.o.). Do not brush your teeth for at least 30 minutes before an encounter as your gums will bleed and highten your risk of sharing blood...use mouthwash...a mouthwash that tastes good...nothing nasty. Deodorant and cologne works wonderfully as well. And if anyone smokes please carry gum or listerine pocket packs with you...or better yet, don't smoke before meeting someone (if at all, hehe) because even if you chew gum or use mouthwash, the smoke is in your LUNGS and your exhale will reek of it. I personally have trouble maintaining a hard on if the other person reeks, no matter their sexual appeal.

 

Well, I hope this was informative and helpful.

[+ Cash4Trash]

I use a warm water enema 2 hours ahead of time. About 1 hour before

the appointment I use a dildo to pull out excess water and to check

if everything is as clean as I want it to be. Gives me time to

clean out again if I should.

 

Also, a very faintly scented body oil before appointment has been

known to get a tops attention. (Usually on shoulders so he gets a whiff while fucking from behind.)

[Athan]

just be carefull with oils as they disolve Latex.

Don't go letting the guy rub his condom on your shoulders, heheheh :+

[+ Lucky]

Is your douche technique available on video?

[Rick Munroe]

Yikes, what Athan described above is really not good to do, especially on a regular basis. You're basically removing all of the healthy (and necessary) bacteria from your body. I'd advise anyone who does any sort of douche, whether it's a Fleet's or the hose contraption not to do it all the time. And you've got to take acidophilus to replace the stuff you're removing or you are really going to screw yourself up.

[noviceny]

I think it safe to say that no one needs to hear comments from me :-)

[Rick Munroe]

Your self-restraint is admirable (and much appreciated). :*

[joel304]

Take Rick's warning to heart. Athan, good God man. It's still supposed to serve as an asshole. I have to go back to Dr. Laura to find a way out of this nonsense.

 

Too much talk about enemas.

 

By the way. Fiber promotes regularity. Try that. Asses aren't dinner plates. If that's a problem, find a girl. Ooops ... they are odorous as well ....

[noviceny]

Hey JT,

 

I use Dr. Woods Peppermint Castile Soap...it comes in a liquid and is great !!! I dont think Id squirt it up my ass though, cause I got it in my eyes once and it fucken hurt !!! It also says it good for a shampoo and "A mild laundry detergent" Holy Shit !!! Or actually peppermint scented shit !! The product is pretty ghetto (you wouldnt believe where I buy it), but it makes you smell really good (on the outside).

 

$5.99 for 32 oz

[Athan]

>Yikes, what Athan described above is really not good to do,

>especially on a regular basis. You're basically removing all

>of the healthy (and necessary) bacteria from your body. I'd

>advise anyone who does any sort of douche, whether it's a

>Fleet's or the hose contraption not to do it all the time.

>And you've got to take acidophilus to replace the stuff you're

>removing or you are really going to screw yourself up.

 

Yes, I am aware of this risk. One of my clients is a....Whatever a colon doctor is called...I can't remember the word for it right now...but he told me it is safe to do once in any 24 hour period without damaging anything. Any more often and what you are saying would occur. Besides, this is what I did for the 2 years I was escorting before, and I am doing it again now that I am back in business, and I am as healthy as can be (so says my doctor). If I was doing something harmful to myself I or my doctor would notice.

 

Thanks for the heads up though!

[pierrot]

Greatly helpful everyone, thanks. One more question, does anyone know how long it takes food to make to the colon? If you eat, say at 8 pm, what time can you expect that meal to get into your large intestines and/or colon?

This must be standard medical knowledge. Anyone know?

[Guest gman2115]

Hey Athan,

 

The doctor you were trying to refer to is called a proctologist. :-)

 

GMan

[Rick Munroe]

>he told me it is safe to do once

>in any 24 hour period without damaging anything.

 

Does that mean once every 24 hours? As in...everyday?

[Athan]

>>he told me it is safe to do once

>>in any 24 hour period without damaging anything.

>

>Does that mean once every 24 hours? As in...everyday?

 

 

Well, yeah...he said it's safe, but not neccessarily recommended. Just that it is possible without injury or damage.

[Rick Munroe]

OK cool...thanks for clarifying, smart boy.

[noviceny]

Pierrot,

 

Are you asking ME how long it takes for me to take a shit after eating ??

 

Oh this is just too tempting !!!:-) :-)

 

Must...not..talk...about ...my...bowel...movements...losing control...must..make.. smart...ass..comment

 

That depends on how much coffee I drink. I drink water and coffee only and thats enough to keep me "going" in about an hour or so. Especially if I have nothing in my colon, intestine or whatever the fuck it is.

 

If you need a more explicite description/instructions please let me know:-)

[flguy]

Novice, You may need to go see a professional about this problem, and or compulsion!!!! You lasted longer without posting anything than I thought you could, But knew this last question was just to good for you to pass up.

[HotdadENYC]

I agree; Novice I am proud of you for holding out so long, but I knew it was just a matter of time.

 

And your response was funny and tasteful, at least as far as any of this type of discussion can be thought of as tasteful.

 

 

hd NYC

 

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[Guest Tristan]

There are doctors who do not recommend enemas prior to anal sex because they irritate the colon and can cause very small tears, making you more susceptible to HIV.

 

You may want to check out the information on http://www.gayhealth.com including the following link:

 

http://www.gayhealth.com/templates/1107356532160461988299/network/ask/index.html?record=697&answer=1

 

The above web site is one of the very best on all gay health and sex issues.

[JT Brooklyn]

HI Novice.. Dr. Bonner's has been around since the 70's. "Totally Organic".I like the Peppermint, there are other FLAVORS..LOL BUT I "donot" squirt it UP. As pointed out, we are not Doing the Dishes! I just put a little in the Happy Hole with my fingers, and rinse with warm water running very slowly thru a narrow.. rubber tube..thoroughly! Bonner's is sold in all Major Health Food stores. My Routine is only done every 3 or 4 weeks. So I donot concern myself about the routine. BUT I am sure doing it on a day or two every week basis, probably not a good idea! This can be fun Novice, once you get a good Routine going! LOL :+ :+ :+

[guptasa1]

>You're basically removing all

>of the healthy (and necessary) bacteria from your body. I'd

>advise anyone who does any sort of douche, whether it's a

>Fleet's or the hose contraption not to do it all the time.

>And you've got to take acidophilus to replace the stuff you're

>removing or you are really going to screw yourself up.

 

Good point, and one I forgot to mention. I limit myself to two fleet enemas a week at most since I've heard too much of this can do exactly what you just said. (Actually, it works out much less than this...maybe one or two a month if that, but two a week is my upper limit if I ever get that much action - LOL). =oP

[guptasa1]

>Yes, I am aware of this risk. One of my clients is

>a....Whatever a colon doctor is called...I can't remember the

>word for it right now...but he told me it is safe to do once

>in any 24 hour period without damaging anything.

 

Actually, the Fleet bottle's warning has something similar. (I don't have one right in front of me, but it basically says don't exceed one per 24 hours.) So that makes sense. I guess I could do it more often than twice a week if I really wanted to...I'd just been nervous to do so in the past after hearing the risks. =oP But, alas, not a problem thus far so I don't have to decide - one can hope tho' - hehe.