Should he pay or the store didn't secure the items endangering him and others?

[escortrod]

 

http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/warning-label-iron.jpg

 

http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/warning-label-peanuts.jpg

 

http://www.elmo.ch/private/Stories-from-a-great-country/sue-me-if-you-can/vending-sticker-01.jpg

You would certainly hope they are all unnecessary, but I see no harm in the warnings being there.

[Jbdesc]

http://www.elmo.ch/private/Stories-from-a-great-country/sue-me-if-you-can/vending-sticker-01.jpg

 

Is it morbid that I find it somewhat hysterical that you are statistically more likely to be killed by a vending machine than a shark?

[+ azdr0710]

for those interested, here are some articles about the McDonald's hot coffee case....can google for more if you want

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants

 

http://mentalfloss.com/article/26862/real-details-hot-coffee-lawsuit

[escortrod]

http://www.elmo.ch/private/Stories-from-a-great-country/sue-me-if-you-can/vending-sticker-01.jpg

Is it morbid that I find it somewhat hysterical that you are statistically more likely to be killed by a vending machine than a shark?

You're also more likely to be killed by a hole dug on the beach than by a shark, at least in the US. Martha's Vineyard even stops kids digging holes on the beach.

[Jbdesc]

You're also more likely to be killed by a hole dug on the beach than by a shark, at least in the US. Martha's Vineyard even stops kids digging holes on the beach.

 

Yeah, I am in Massachusetts and see these pop up every now and then. What makes it even more unfortunate is that normally (not always though) it's children.

 

On a side note, holy smoke show rod. Any plans to be in the MA or CT vicinity next week?

[escortrod]

Yeah, I am in Massachusetts and see these pop up every now and then. What makes it even more unfortunate is that normally (not always though) it's children.

 

On a side note, holy smoke show rod. Any plans to be in the MA or CT vicinity next week?

Sadly not, I'm moving to Vegas next week. That said my partner went to college in Boston and lived there for a while after so we do visit MA now and again. I was there last weekend in fact.

[LADoug1]

I once saw a bronze statue in a park. It was in the hot sun and there was a warning not to touch it as it might be very hot. Ridiculous.

[+ purplekow]

I wouldn't expect to get second degree burns from a McDonald's coffee. The harm was entirely foreseeable (lots of people will put a cup given to them at a drive thru between their legs) and McDonald's didn't do enough to mitigate it. The negligence is pretty clear.

 

I had a take-out coffee cup fall apart in my hand when I was driving on a motorway. The seam of the cup wasn't properly sealed and so absorbed coffee and failed. Happily the coffee chain in question served their product at a temperature that wasn't liable to cause scalding and so I was able to continue driving to the next service station without coming to any serious harm. I'm glad my coffee wasn't from McDonald's.

Since a bad sunburn is a second degree burn, your lack of expectation about getting a second degree burn from coffee is really based on your lack of common knowledge rather than the coffee being. The only way McDonald or any other company can mitigate cofee burns is to not sell it, especially to people who feel that an appropriate place for a coffee cup is between ones legs.

If the cup were flimsy, then you would have a different separate argument. Actually, I think you deserve a ticket for endangering us all by driving when distracted. Eating, drinking and especially spilling coffee onto oneself is an unsafe practice and those doing it should be properly chastised, not rewarded with a settlement.

[+ purplekow]

The reason for all those warnings, has nothing to do with informing people not to wear plastic bags as hats or that trying to tip a vending machine may cause it to fall on you and everything to do with the tort system rewarding stupid behavior with settlements.

[escortrod]

Since a bad sunburn is a second degree burn, your lack of expectation about getting a second degree burn from coffee is really based on your lack of common knowledge rather than the coffee being. The only way McDonald or any other company can mitigate cofee burns is to not sell it, especially to people who feel that an appropriate place for a coffee cup is between ones legs.

If the cup were flimsy, then you would have a different separate argument. Actually, I think you deserve a ticket for endangering us all by driving when distracted. Eating, drinking and especially spilling coffee onto oneself is an unsafe practice and those doing it should be properly chastised, not rewarded with a settlement.

I meant a third degree burn. Apologies for forgetting which degree of burn I meant when posting on a forum in the early hours.

 

Serving coffee at reasonable temperatures obviously mitigates some of the risk of burns.

 

Having sat an advanced driving test with the IAM in the UK I disagree with you. I can easily drink from a takeout coffee cup without taking my eyes off of the road, and retain sufficient control over the car with one hand on the steering wheel to manoeuvre at motorway speeds (since even in an emergency manoeuvre at that speed no more than half a turn of the steering wheel would be necessary). Altering my climate control settings was significantly more distracting than drinking from a takeout coffee cup since it required at least a glance at the LCD display.

[mike carey]

Since a bad sunburn is a second degree burn, your lack of expectation about getting a second degree burn from coffee is really based on your lack of common knowledge rather than the coffee being.

I would be surprised if one would receive blistering from a liquid that should be well below 100°. Surprised, but I wouldn't rule it out.

[+ purplekow]

http://www.coffeedetective.com/what-is-the-correct-temperature-for-serving-coffee.html

 

A guide suggests coffee be served at 155 to 175 degrees F.

 

https://www.reference.com/health/temperature-human-skin-burn-82a1af6b1322b289

 

This suggests skin burns at 162 degrees F.

[MikeBiDude]

http://www.coffeedetective.com/what-is-the-correct-temperature-for-serving-coffee.html

 

A guide suggests coffee be served at 155 to 175 degrees F.

 

https://www.reference.com/health/temperature-human-skin-burn-82a1af6b1322b289

 

This suggests skin burns at 162 degrees F.

And if it wasn't hot enough the customer would bitch too, lol.

[marylander1940]

Wow. It's only $1.22 to the pound now. Those stupid xenophobic English. I have a feeling that the next addition to the EU will be the Republic of Scotland.

 

I agree with you but may I say that Scotland will keep the Queen and become a Dominion like Canada, also the effects of Brexit: tariffs, visas, 1 on 1 economic deals with other countries, Brits becoming foreigners in Europe and other Europeans becoming not residents in London and Edinburgh aren't in effect yet.

[Guest]

...lots of people will put a cup given to them at a drive thru between their legs... I had a take-out coffee cup fall apart in my hand when I was driving on a motorway...

Oh, for God's sake. Haven't they invented cup-holders in the UK?

[LADoug1]

Just to correct previous posts...the burned woman was a passenger and not the driver.

[escortrod]

Oh, for God's sake. Haven't they invented cup-holders in the UK?

Yes, they have. I didn't say that I put a cup between my legs. I did indeed use cup holders (which in two cases I retrofitted to my cars).