Idle Thoughts On A Tuesday-If I Were A Sculptor, But Then Again...

[+ Gar1eth]

I was driving the other day and for some reason the thought of Michelangelo's David popped into my head. David being an almost perfect man aside from the small tallywacker.

 

http://www.italianrenaissance.org/wp-content/uploads/Michelangelo-David-e1429028121909.jpg

 

 

 

I thought wouldn't it be neat if I could sculpt and was able to sculpt 'in full glory' some of the extremely handsome guys I've been with over the years like Trey Rexx (incredibly handsome guy-incredibly poor escort/person), the now retired Alec Andrews, Mike Gaite, the incomparable Tyger, Jim Slade, Ace Banner,...and the list goes on. My collection of garden statuary would be very large-and definitely better hung than David.

 

Gman

[beachboy]

I was driving the other day and for some reason the thought of Michelangelo's David popped into my head. David being an almost perfect man aside from the small tallywacker.

 

http://www.italianrenaissance.org/wp-content/uploads/Michelangelo-David-e1429028121909.jpg

 

 

 

I thought wouldn't it be neat if I could sculpt and was able to sculpt 'in full glory' some of the extremely handsome guys I've been with over the years like Trey Rexx (incredibly handsome guy-incredibly poor escort/person), the now retired Alec Andrews, Mike Gaite, the incomparable Tyger, Jim Slade, Ace Banner,...and the list goes on. My collection of garden statuary would be very large-and definitely better hung than David.

 

Gman

Maybe David was a grower!

[MikeBiDude]

Maybe David was a grower!

There is nothing imperfect about David's endowment...

[+ glennnn]

I was an art history minor in college, and always wondered why the nude males in paintings and statues were so "under hung". Not even average compared to what one sees in any locker room, but often, really tiny. Was it considered bad taste, perverted, or what, to put a more realistic sized cock on a male figure that was otherwise perfectly realistic, often heroically, proportioned and fully detailed in every other way.

 

In my life drawing classes, I faced the dilemma of portraying naked male genitalia myself. Ignoring it completely created strangely androgenous figures. Drawing or, god forbid, modeling, an exact representation of the model's penis was embarrassing and too self-revelatory in a studio class full of strangers, and required more than a couple of casual glances at the anatomy under consideration. Making it smaller than real life seemed false, making it larger attracted unwanted attention from some of the other artists (I was still in denial about my sexuality). I never did resolve the issue. As I moved into scenic design, the requirement to draw any size cocks pretty much disappeared, except for an occaisional male putto or cupid.

 

Perhaps, i should go for a PhD and write my dissertation on The Psychology of Accurate Human Penis Representation in Sculpture. Bet it's already been done. I would have to limit it to one period or one culture. Any suggestions?

[gallahadesquire]

Let's not ignore the David's hands, which are freakishly large. I remember some story about the original u carved marble being wide and somewhat flat, which is why David is shaped the way he is.

 

None of which has to do with his endowment. Never mind.

[+ purplekow]

Well his penis may be small but I hear it is rock hard.

[+ Truereview]

Let's start a new art movement! Let's call it Big Schlongcocco period!

http://www.art-bronze-sculptures.com/images/product_images/popup_images/388_4.jpg Ihttp://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/187524048-well-known-giant-penis-sculpture-welcomes-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QSFqqiPvG1lL%2BHM7nORNLH78cWkatAR%2FZ81KjoYdfBuL

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/226826-about-the-art-debate-please-shut-the-f-k-up/penis-art-ba-5-620x.jpg

[Epigonos]

The following is a direct quote from an article which appeared on www.alertnet.org written by Kali Holloway.

 

"But there was a time when smaller was considered better, and the testament to that sentiment can be viewed in some of the world’s greatest museums. If you’ve ever wondered why classical statues—meaning those of the Greek and Roman varieties—are so modestly endowed, the answer lies in societal views on penis size in those eras. The Greeks believed small penises were a sign of intelligence and cultural distinction. Big penises, conversely, were regarded with disdain, a signifier of a lusty, bestial, lowly sex-ogre with animalistic cravings."

 

This question constantly came up in my high school Art History classes. Some form of the above was the answer I always offered. Also keep in mind that satyrs, who were look upon with distain in the classical world, were always portrayed sporting extremely large and frequently erect genitalia.

[+ glennnn]

Gees, in my repressed school days the question never came up, much less an answer! Thank you. I think I'll skip the PhD and just study the Bigschlongcocco Period.

[+ Gar1eth]

I was an art history minor in college, and always wondered why the nude males in paintings and statues were so "under hung". Not even average compared to what one sees in any locker room, but often, really tiny.

 

Actually, although this was not the reason for my post, David and I may not be that dissimilar in 'size'. I'm a bit thicker even when flaccid than he is. But I guess the ancient Greeks would've been praising my intelligence and cultural distinction*

 

Gman

 

* I also always have my pinky pointed outwards when picking objects up.

 

http://straightrazorplace.com/attachments/brushes/80975d1319382055-thinking-about-thaeter-but-curly.jpg

[+ nycman]

A bit off topic, but David was one of those pieces of art that I had seen

and studied a million times through out my education. I never thought

much about him and in general religated him to the same populist

trash heap as the Mona Lisa.

 

In fact, I had been to Florence 10-15 times in my life and each trip I bypassed

the Galleria dell'Accademia telling myself I'd seen the copy of David

that resides in the Piazza della Signoria in Florence and that was

"good enough". I've loved every Michalangelo I've even seen, but

still for some reason I snobbishly avoided David.

 

Well on my last trip to Florence I finally ran out of other things to do,

so I bit the bullet and headed over to see the original David.

 

All I can say is....holy fuck!...I have never been more wrong! There are

maybe 3-4 "well known" artworks in this world that completely and

unexpectedly blew me away when I first saw them in person.

 

David is one of them.

[+ beethoven]

When discussing aspects of sculpture that appear "distorted" or "too large" or "too small" to us, we need to remember where the statue was placed when it was created. There is a big difference between viewing a statue at ground level, like the Burghers of Calais (Rodin insisted that it be displayed that way) and elevated, as I believe the David was.

[gallahadesquire]

http://www.gotterdammerung.org/photo/travel/italy/pompeii/060925-164034%20The%20fertility%20god%20Priapus%20at%20the%20House%20of%20the%20Vettii.jpg

 

The House of the Vettii. "Worth it's weight in gold."

[Nvr2Thick]

David is 17 feet tall. That dick would tear you apart.

[gallahadesquire]

A bit off topic, but David was one of those pieces of art that I had seen

and studied a million times through out my education. I never thought

much about him and in general religated him to the same populist

trash heap as the Mona Lisa.

 

In fact, I had been to Florence 10-15 times in my life and each trip I bypassed

the Galleria dell'Accademia telling myself I'd seen the copy of David

that resides in the Piazza della Signoria in Florence and that was

"good enough". I've loved every Michalangelo I've even seen, but

still for some reason I snobbishly avoided David.

 

Well on my last trip to Florence I finally ran out of other things to do,

so I bit the bullet and headed over to see the original David.

 

All I can say is....holy fuck!...I have never been more wrong! There are

maybe 3-4 "well known" artworks in this world that completely and

unexpectedly blew me away when I first saw them in person.

 

David is one of them.

 

Due to Life doing what it does, I didn't go to Europe until I was 35. [i also got to Disneyworld the same year, but afterwards]. A friend of mine was on a Michelangelo search, in particular for the Slave statues that were supposed to be around the tomb of Julius II. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Julius_II

 

They are variously located in the Louvre; somewhere in Florence (I don't think it's the Galleria dell'Accademia), and somewhere in Rome (I assume The Vatican). If you want to get a sense of how Michelangelo was just freeing the figures that were already in the stone, those are the ones to see.

[+ Gar1eth]

David is 17 feet tall. That dick would tear you apart.

 

Hmm-so just bit smaller than Andrew Justice, Sean Xavier, or Tyger?

 

 

Gman

[+ Gar1eth]

A bit off topic, but David was one of those pieces of art that I had seen

and studied a million times through out my education. I never thought

much about him and in general religated him to the same populist

trash heap as the Mona Lisa.

 

Nuthin' wrong with being common says me. I'm a common man. I can't remember how taken I was with Mona. It was 27 years ago that our paths crossed, and unfortunately there were too many people there for us to get really acquainted. But I loves me some Norman Rockwell. And if you think all of them are the same, take a gander at this one-

 

http://cfile222.uf.daum.net/image/192AB5114BFDC3238A76BB

 

I sometimes get chills looking at it.

 

Gman

[+ nycman]

Due to Life doing what it does, I didn't go to Europe until I was 35. [i also got to Disneyworld the same year, but afterwards]. A friend of mine was on a Michelangelo search, in particular for the Slave statues that were supposed to be around the tomb of Julius II. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Julius_II

 

They are variously located in the Louvre; somewhere in Florence (I don't think it's the Galleria dell'Accademia), and somewhere in Rome (I assume The Vatican). If you want to get a sense of how Michelangelo was just freeing the figures that were already in the stone, those are the ones to see.

 

As best I can recall there are 6 Michelangelo "slave" carvings. 2 in the Louvre and 4 in Florence

at the Galleria dell'Accademia. Although Julius' tomb in St. Peter's was supposed to be their

final resting place, I don't believe there are any in Rome.

 

While the Pieta caused a 12 year old nycman to stop dead in his tracks and get weak in the knees

from its sheer overwhelming beauty...it was the Louve slaves that later haunted the imagination

of an older college age nycman.

 

I agree they are astounding and even more erotic than David could ever hope to be.

[+ nycman]

Nuthin' wrong with being common says me. I'm a common man. I can't remember how taken I was with Mona. It was 27 years ago that our paths crossed, and unfortunately there were too many people there for us to get really acquainted. But I loves me some Norman Rockwell. And if you think all of them are the same, take a gander at this one-

 

http://cfile222.uf.daum.net/image/192AB5114BFDC3238A76BB

 

I sometimes get chills looking at it.

 

Gman

 

I have always had a soft spot for Norman Rockwell.

 

99% smaltzy schlock...but 100% talent.

 

I always wished he had been more adventurous and edgy.

 

The above picture is amazing.....he could have been an American Goya.

[+ Gar1eth]

I have always had a soft spot for Norman Rockwell.

 

99% smaltzy schlock...but 100% talent.

 

I always wished he had been more adventurous and edgy.

 

The above picture is amazing.....he could have been an American Goya.

 

I'm all about smaltzy schlock. Life can be hard. I see nothing wrong with images that appeal to the heart.

 

Gman

[gallahadesquire]

As best I can recall there are 6 Michelangelo "slave" carvings. 2 in the Louvre and 4 in Florence

at the Galleria dell'Accademia. Although Julius' tomb in St. Peter's was supposed to be their

final resting place, I don't believe there are any in Rome.

 

While the Pieta caused a 12 year old nycman to stop dead in his tracks and get weak in the knees

from its sheer overwhelming beauty...it was the Louve slaves that later haunted the imagination

of an older college age nycman.

 

I agree they are astounding and even more erotic than David could ever hope to be.

 

Thanks NYCMAN. It was 31 years ago, and my memory isn't the way I remember it.

 

Another incredible sculpture is that of Moses at St. Pietro in Vincoli. He's huge, muscular, PISSED, and about to make some MAJOR CARNAGE. I love it!

[+ Gar1eth]

Thanks NYCMAN. It was 31 years ago, and my memory isn't the way I remember it.

 

Another incredible sculpture is that of Moses at St. Pietro in Vincoli. He's huge, muscular, PISSED, and about to make some MAJOR CARNAGE. I love it!

 

I've always hated the horns though.

 

Gman

[+ Truereview]

My all-time fave statue is Canova's Psyche Revived by Cupid's Kiss. I realize it is not as ancient as some of the ones mentioned so far, but I just love how pristine and different it looks from different angles. I believe there are imitations (saw one at the New Hermitage in St Petersburg) but to me, the one at the Louvre was breathtaking. Some internet images below. I did consider showcasing Cupid's butt in the Ass Revolution thread

http://images.travelpod.com/tw_slides/ta00/bbb/2a2/psyche-revived-by-cupids-kiss--paris.jpg

http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.12630501.7391/flat,550x550,075,f.u2.jpg

http://www.jennifertetlow.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Psyche-awakened-by-cupids-kiss.jpg

http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/love_psyche_revived_by_cupids_kiss_post_cards-rba10ad59cdea41279d7fc185b778cde1_vgbaq_8byvr_512.jpg?bg=0xffffff

[Nvr2Thick]

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/226826-about-the-art-debate-please-shut-the-f-k-up/penis-art-ba-5-620x.jpg

 

I love this one. I wonder if they sell a coffee cup version of this sculpture in the museum gift shop.

[+ Truereview]

I love this one. I wonder if they sell a coffee cup version of this sculpture in the museum gift shop.

Now, that's an idea...

http://shutupandtakemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/the-ock-cock-mug-300x250.jpg