When the Rate is "Ask"

[nynakedtop]

I am curious about the "ask" issue.

 

 

 

In other words, an escort loses opportunities to gain clients merely because of the "ask" comment in the ad rather than stating an amount.

 

 

Exactly so... when I see "ask" i do not dwell for even a moment.

[LADoug1]

I used to automatically skip ask me ads. This thread may make me more flexible.

[MikeyGMin]

I'm not sure what the big hesitation is about asking for rates, but I think some if it is a fear or hesitancy to be judged. That a rate will be set based on their personal stats rather than the activities they are requesting. I would think this would be easy to discern if he started asking about your age, height, weight, etc.

 

I would probably move on at that point also, but to automatically exclude every provider who strikes your fancy, simply because he doesn't list his rates, may be a bit shortsighted in this day and age. The last "ask me" that I responded to was as simple as him having a massage rate and an escort rate that was established with a single text. It was a great experience and I'm glad I didn't miss out on it.

[LivingnLA]

I'm not sure what the big hesitation is about asking for rates, but I think some if it is a fear or hesitancy to be judged. That a rate will be set based on their personal stats rather than the activities they are requesting. I would think this would be easy to discern if he started asking about your age, height, weight, etc.

 

I would probably move on at that point also, but to automatically exclude every provider who strikes your fancy, simply because he doesn't list his rates, may be a bit shortsighted in this day and age. The last "ask me" that I responded to was as simple as him having a massage rate and an escort rate that was established with a single text. It was a great experience and I'm glad I didn't miss out on it.

 

For me it's not fear or hesitancy, it's purely time-oriented. I do not have alot of time to spend on this portion of my activities, so any "barrier to entry"--in sales & marketing terms--stops me from proceeding.

 

I'm sure escorts are aware of this reality--any savvy business person knows this fundamental truth--anything that forces a transaction check during the sales process will filter out prospects. In other words, many sales experts argue for frictionless sales processes to smooth the path toward closing the deal. However, others encourage conscious and intentional "check-points" to allow parties in the sales process to reassess.

 

The choice to use "Ask" is purely up to the business, but I hope they're smart enough to realize, that this choice will filter out prospects for a variety of reasons.

[MikeyGMin]

For me it's not fear or hesitancy, it's purely time-oriented. I do not have alot of time to spend on this portion of my activities, so any "barrier to entry"--in sales & marketing terms--stops me from proceeding.

 

Certainly a very viable option for someone living in an escort rich market like LA or NYC.

[LivingnLA]

Certainly a very viable option for someone living in an escort rich market like LA or NYC.

 

Absolutely, but I'm talking in terms of marketing and sales, so if for some reason I were in rural America and wanted an escort, I would clearly "Ask" if that was a "barrier to entry" for the local escort(s). In a large market like SoCal, I don't have to perform that extra step in my research.

[RadioRob]

Seeing "Ask me" does not bother me or scare me off. However if there are two otherwise equally interesting candidates that I'm picking between and one of them has a rate posted that I'm comfortable with and the other is not listed, the posted one gets first contact. Should that not pan out, I'll reach out to the other person. Rate is not typically the first thing I open my conversation with as typically most ask rates I've gotten have been reasonable.

[+ WhamIAm]

I always used to pass up Ask Me ads on rates when I first started hiring about 2 years ago. Noticed about 3 months after that that the number of those ads were increasing, and did so dramatically after the RB raid. Started responding to AM ads since, I've almost always gotten responses within market range for the area. Tho I may be wrong, I have the sense that most guys do it to keep their rates private rather than adjusting them based on the client/day of the week/whatever. (Had one newbie quote me a rate of $450 in Richmond, VA, where I figured market rate at $275 or so max. Needless to say I passed. I noticed recently he doesn't advertise any more. Cause and effect?)

 

Also, I generally like 2 hour meetings. It didn't penetrate my thick skull that most guys give discounts on meetings longer than an hour until I actually started responding to AM ads and talking about rates. There are a number of guys with published rates I've met who seem to only discount on more than an hour if you raise the question.

 

From all this, my lesson was that if the guy really strikes you, just ask. It's pretty painless, and if you ask first the time investment is minimal. I'd have missed out on some great experiences otherwise.

[gezellig4u]

I'm not sure what the big hesitation is about asking for rates, but I think some if it is a fear or hesitancy to be judged. That a rate will be set based on their personal stats rather than the activities they are requesting. I would think this would be easy to discern if he started asking about your age, height, weight, etc.

I recently saw a variation of this in an ad on RM. The escort listed specific dollar amounts for incall, outcall and overnight, but the text of his ad contained a statement that his rates might be increased depending on the client's stats. While his pics, own stats, and stated interests were perfect as far as my preferences go, the "sliding scale" rate based on client attributes smacked of a potential attitude problem, so I moved on to another cutie. And, no, I was not worried that he was going to upcharge me. At 6 feet and 175 lbs, I think that I qualify as HWP. But, for a several hundred dollar outlay (as I will only schedule for at least two hours) I am not interested in someone that might have some 'tude bubbling beneath the surface, or who so blatantly negates the I am only charging for my time mantra.

[jawjateck]

ok ok....I decided to give the other side of this discussion a chance....you know....guys are afraid of law enforcement, different rates for massage/escort, yada yada, so I selected 2 companion advertisements which say "ask". I introduce myself, describe the kind of session I prefer, propose a session length, one for 3 hours, the other for a 12-13 hour overnight. Several messages back-and-forth, both seem willing, even eager to meet, and yet, I still don't have a $$$ figure from either one of them. And so you know, I was not just messing with them; both are sensually/visually appealing, and with agreeable terms and scheduling, I would be willing to meet either or both of them.

 

So for me......."ask"=waste of time. Yeah yeah, I'm sure my technique and procedure is all messed up, probably need mentoring by some savvy and experienced clients.

[gezellig4u]

ok ok....I decided to give the other side of this discussion a chance....you know....guys are afraid of law enforcement, different rates for massage/escort, yada yada, so I selected 2 companion advertisements which say "ask". I introduce myself, describe the kind of session I prefer, propose a session length, one for 3 hours, the other for a 12-13 hour overnight. Several messages back-and-forth, both seem willing, even eager to meet, and yet, I still don't have a $$$ figure from either one of them. And so you know, I was not just messing with them; both are sensually/visually appealing, and with agreeable terms and scheduling, I would be willing to meet either or both of them.

 

So for me......."ask"=waste of time. Yeah yeah, I'm sure my technique and procedure is all messed up, probably need mentoring by some savvy and experienced clients.

This transaction is supposed to be only about an exchange of time for a fee, not haggling over the price of some tsotchke in a Khartoum bazaar!

[+ bashful]

My experience with a provider that had "Ask" for rates, was that it depended on how long of an appointment. Each additional hour was 1/3 less. Try putting that in an ad. Have met him twice now.

[coriolis888]

For me it's not fear or hesitancy, it's purely time-oriented. I do not have alot of time to spend on this portion of my activities, so any "barrier to entry"--in sales & marketing terms--stops me from proceeding.

 

I'm sure escorts are aware of this reality--any savvy business person knows this fundamental truth--anything that forces a transaction check during the sales process will filter out prospects. In other words, many sales experts argue for frictionless sales processes to smooth the path toward closing the deal. However, others encourage conscious and intentional "check-points" to allow parties in the sales process to reassess.

 

The choice to use "Ask" is purely up to the business, but I hope they're smart enough to realize, that this choice will filter out prospects for a variety of reasons.

 

 

+ 1

 

Very pragmatic - my sentiments, exactly.

[liubit]

Most boys in Prague have the "Ask Me" option on their rates. If I had skipped their ad because of it, I would have missed a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, of very hot encounters. I thought it was simpler to ask and, here I am, a very happy camper.

[gezellig4u]

My experience with a provider that had "Ask" for rates, was that it depended on how long of an appointment. Each additional hour was 1/3 less. Try putting that in an ad. Have met him twice now.

That could (and often is) easily be specified in the narrative: "Multi-hour discounts available: One hour $300; two hours $500; three hours $700," und so weiter.

[bobnyc]

Ask only deters me if the escort has caveats like "only serious inquiries" and "no time wasters." If they value their time that much then making all available information known before a client initiates contact is prudent. Otherwise, if they seem friendly then I have no issues asking. I generally confirm listed rates before agreeing to meet anyways.

[+ Keith30309]

RentMen has a policy about not specifying any rate information in the descriptive text. Doing so may lead to a "warning or suspension of your advertising privileges". I've been a rebel and fought with them on several occasions about this and the contact info policy, lol.

 

This is interesting and perhaps explains why you don't see multi-hour rates noted. I had assumed that a reduced second/third hour rate was purely negotiated.