Can i ask if something is rude?

[Jimjaxon3]

i will see an ad on rentmen and respond. Then get nothing back. I understand i plan in advance when i travel but even if they dont have an interst or will be unavailable is it bad of me to think it is rude to not respond at all?

[gallahadesquire]

Not so much "rude" as "bad business practice", but I'm not an escort.

[jjkrkwood]

Not all people have the same "social skills", and while it is perceived as impolite not to reply, it seems to be commonplace these days, not only with escorts, but across other business venues. People are either too busy, or simply uninterested or disengaged. I wouldn't stress over it. Simply move on....

[Edward]

I am going to take the flak for this comment. I don't think it is so much rude is that I don't believe many of the guys that put their ad out there have the social skills or care about their clients in general. I think they are strictly there for the money and don't care about the service. If a client inquiry comes in and they have the time or need for money they will answer it. If not the client can go take a leap. There are also a lot of clients that are just window shopping and very unlikely to ever hire. I did not say all of the RBoy or the majority are this way.

[Juan Vancouver]

Manners are sadly dead.

 

In your dealing with escorts and in life in general you will find a lot of behaviours that a mere 15 years ago would have been considered outrageously rude. Sadly, this is the way this culture is evolving and in my mind there's two different ways in which you can react:

 

1. You can live in outrage, calling other people's attention to it and demanding that heads roll, discussing this deterioration of common courtesy and trying to correct people. The will only result in you having to be angry and belligerent all the time and they becoming increasingly rude. You can come to the internet and discuss with others how some people are rude. You can shake your collective heads and live with a sense of disconnection and sadness.

 

2. You can learn to early-detect rudeness and train yourself to avoid it at all costs once it has been detected. Instead, focus on the the few people that still exhibit politeness, common courtesy and who treat you like you enjoy treating human beings. Don't even comment on the rudes... that would be a terribly sad way of wasting time while you are enjoying the nices. Reward nice with smiles and more nice. Talk with people about how this or that person were kind, fun, polite and inspiring. With your focusing on nice, give Nice another chance.

 

A distraught man, trembling with rage at a street corner, shaking his fist and yelling "RUDE!" to everyone is just another symptom of the rude culture.

 

A kind man, celebrating kindness and politeness and choosing to reward and interact only with well-mannered people, is a hope for good manners to become prevalent again.

 

I m sorry escorts have not treated you with the consideration you wish for yourself. Keep trying. I am sure you will find a few that will blow your socks off. In the end, when you are with those who treat you like a king, you will be happy you missed all those other ones.

 

Good luck!

[+ José Soplanucas]

Ditto to Juan, but also you do not know why your message was never responded. Maybe the escort is very demanded and your email got lost amongst all the messages in his inbox. Same may happen with voicemail or text messages.

Did you read carefully his ad to see if he is informing his preferred way to connect?

When my initial message is not answered, I do not assume it is out of rudeness. It could be but I just dont know.

I just move on to the next one. There is plenty of meat in the market. I advice you doing the same.

Good luck with your next one!

[+ saminseattle]

Manners are sadly dead.

 

In your dealing with escorts and in life in general you will find a lot of behaviours that a mere 15 years ago would have been considered outrageously rude.

 

Case in point: when I was applying for jobs ~15 years ago, 90% of the time I received a cordial, if cold, rejection letter. In contrast, when I was applying for jobs 5 years ago, 90% of the time my prospective employers never bothered to send one. I didn’t realize how much I appreciated getting these “Dear Sam” letters until they stopped coming. Oh well, I’m happily employed now, so it’s all water under the bridge I suppose. Yet, if economic conditions in the future are such that these places try to recruit me, I may well be less inclined to respond to their overtures. “What goes around comes around,” as they say.

 

That’s why I tend to agree with gallahadesquire: in general, failing to take the time to respond to someone is a bad (or at least less than ideal) business practice, regardless of the industry you're in. If you’re in it for the long haul, little gestures of politeness can pay dividends in the future. In terms of complaining about increasing “rudeness” in our culture, I agree that it doesn’t get you very far. Still, it can be cathartic and amusing. Certainly, there is plenty of it on this forum. Just a few examples:

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/really-getting-older.113023/

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/stop-the-madness.110596/

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/the-decline-of-human-interactions.111089/#post-1048421

[WorldwideTraveler]

Ditto to Juan, but also you do not know why your message was never responded. Maybe the escort is very demanded and your email got lost amongst all the messages in his inbox. Same may happen with voicemail or text messages.

Did you read carefully his ad to see if he is informing his preferred way to connect?

When my initial message is not answered, I do not assume it is out of rudeness. It could be but I just dont know.

I just move on to the next one. There is plenty of meat in the market. I advice you doing the same.

Good luck with your next one!

 

Such a terrible way to look at things, "...meat in the market." I've had tremendous success in hiring. Every single guy I've hired always gets back to me, I never feel like just an ATM. If you're going to look at guys as just "meat" don't complain when they start looking at you as just another "john." The relationship really does work both ways here. The reality is that the client needs a very skilled escort more than the escort needs the client. I could understand your mentality though. I've read post after post of your escort budgets, they run very low, you don't pay high rates and see escorts as more of a play thing than a serious experience. Perhaps those guys are used to being looked at as just $150 pieces of meat. Many young men I run into would never put up with a "meat market" type of client.

[jjkrkwood]

Such a terrible way to look at things, "...meat in the market." I've had tremendous success in hiring. Every single guy I've hired always gets back to me, I never feel like just an ATM. If you're going to look at guys as just "meat" don't complain when they start looking at you as just another "john." The relationship really does work both ways here. The reality is that the client needs a very skilled escort more than the escort needs the client. I could understand your mentality though. I've read post after post of your escort budgets, they run very low, you don't pay high rates and see escorts as more of a play thing than a serious experience. Perhaps those guys are used to being looked at as just $150 pieces of meat. Many young men I run into would never put up with a "meat market" type of client.

 

Once again Mr Traveler, price has nothing to do with Quality. Obviously your needs in an escort are different than Mr latbears. That's fine, but you disparaging anothers hirinig habits and behavior is not. Escorting is basically a "meat market" profession.. It's not Match.com... Most guys that hire are doing so for SEX. You seek a different connection ? Good for you. There are more than enough guys out there to give everyone what they need. As long as Mr latbear is treating his hires with respect, it doesn't make a fucking difference what his personal viewpoint is. That's for him and him alone...

[Juan Vancouver]

Jjkrwood,

 

I agree that disparaging others for doing things differently is not the best policy. However, asserting to know what most guys hire for is not good either.

 

Escorting is basically a "meat market" profession.. It's not Match.com... Most guys that hire are doing so for SEX.

 

This would ring truer if you had written: "For me, (and presumably as well as for Latbear) escorting is a meat profession. For us and for some other men hiring is exclusively for sex."

 

It's funny how you demand respect for you way of thinking but broadly discount the way other's see this. In my personal experience, and possibly skewed by the kind of clients I attract with my ad, 80% of my clients hire looking for an intimate encounter, for learning, for developing interpersonal skills, for companionship, for travelling.

 

It's great you hire for sex. It is only my point that you simply don't know what most guys hire for.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Such a terrible way to look at things, "...meat in the market." I've had tremendous success in hiring. Every single guy I've hired always gets back to me, I never feel like just an ATM. If you're going to look at guys as just "meat" don't complain when they start looking at you as just another "john." The relationship really does work both ways here. The reality is that the client needs a very skilled escort more than the escort needs the client. I could understand your mentality though. I've read post after post of your escort budgets, they run very low, you don't pay high rates and see escorts as more of a play thing than a serious experience. Perhaps those guys are used to being looked at as just $150 pieces of meat. Many young men I run into would never put up with a "meat market" type of client.

Sir, your lack of sense of humor is sad. But I see you have a history of disliking my views. Good for you. I'm very happy and satisfied with the way I enjoy this hobby and do not need your approval. Peace, and keep enjoying your own way.

[jjkrkwood]

Jjkrwood,

 

I agree that disparaging others for doing things differently is not the best policy. However, asserting to know what most guys hire for is not good either.

 

 

 

This would ring truer if you had written: "For me, (and presumably as well as for Latbear) escorting is a meat profession. For us and for some other men hiring is exclusively for sex."

 

It's funny how you demand respect for you way of thinking but broadly discount the way other's see this. In my personal experience, and possibly skewed by the kind of clients I attract with my ad, 80% of my clients hire looking for an intimate encounter, for learning, for developing interpersonal skills, for companionship, for travelling.

 

It's great you hire for sex. It is only my point that you simply don't know what most guys hire for.

 

Juan, that's just semantics. Come on. Let's call it what it is. You guys aren't choir boys, and for the most part you are selling time for Sex... You can try to put whatever spin on it you want, but it is what it is, and if it were only me and latbear hiring you, you certainly would need a second day job... I always respect your posts, but discounting what you actually do is beneath you. You do not go to clients and read them bedtime stories. Well maybe you do as a special request, but that's not your bread & butter.... I honestly don't care if you or anyone else agrees with me. Its my opinion, and as I said if you read it carefully " there are more than enough guys out there to satisfy EVERYONES needs". So if the need is NOT sexual, there's a guy for that too.... And YES, I may not know what most guys Hire for, but then, neither do you. I believe most do hire for sex, and that's my fact, because if they wanted any other service they would not be engaging an Escort. They want a hot, attractive and sexual man, even if its for ALL those other superfluous things you mention in your post, at the end of it, sex is often expected. I would be willing to bet you most of your income is for THAT regardless of what precluded it.. I am certain a guy is not looking at your delicious ass pic, and the first thing that comes to his mind is "I'm gonna hire that guy to mentor me"...That's hysterical. No need to tell me I'm wrong. That's the reply I would expect you to give me to backup your claims. You certainly have enuf fans on this site that consider you YODA so I wouldn't want to shake the hornets nest. Lets just HUG and leave it at each of us believing what we believe, and having a right to voice it.

[+ José Soplanucas]

I could not care less for what most guys do. I am not interested in companionship, romance, learning experiences, etc. I got those for free. I pay for hot, raw, good ( for me) sex. If you are looking for something else, good for you and I wish you the best.

[Edward]

latbear4blk I agree with you that many times we hire for "hot, raw good sex." But with comment that "there is plenty of meat in the market" shows a disgusting lack of respect for the guys providing service to the rest of us. To refer to them as meat should not be tolerated by the members that participate in this forum. Get a clue as what it is to be human.

[jjkrkwood]

latbear4blk I agree with you that many times we hire for "hot, raw good sex." But with comment that "there is plenty of meat in the market" shows a disgusting lack of respect for the guys providing service to the rest of us. To refer to them as meat should not be tolerated by the members that participate in this forum. Get a clue as what it is to be human.

 

Edward, its merely a "saying" that has been around and used for centuries regarding sex for sale practices. It is not meant as disrespectful, rather descriptive. Lighten the fuck up man !

It's silly that grown adult men would be offended by that, especially when they are taking and pocketing your money for spending time with you, or paying for an intimate encounter. Maybe you see God when you see your escort, but others may see it differently ? Has nothing to do with tolerance or Humanity.... dont be so Dramatic, its not that earth shaking. .

[+ José Soplanucas]

@jjkrkwood , I couldn't say it better. This Viscount bends in grateful loyalty, my Prince.

@Edward , "Get a clue as what it is to be human". Really? What a drama queen, girl!

[ncc1701d]

I notice it happens almost routinely when contacting them via RM ad, but rare if I had their direct email from reviews here. Wonder if it's a RM system issue sending them to spam??! Still, if my income was depending on it I would check spam more regularly ;-)

[Kenny]

Not answering emails is rather boring on the rudeness scale.

 

Rudeness can be very funny and useful for cutting through b.s. Just ask The Rude Pundit: http://rudepundit.blogspot.com

[MiamiLooker]

latbear4blk I agree with you that many times we hire for "hot, raw good sex." But with comment that "there is plenty of meat in the market" shows a disgusting lack of respect for the guys providing service to the rest of us. To refer to them as meat should not be tolerated by the members that participate in this forum. Get a clue as what it is to be human.

Such a silly, gratuitous post. Get off your f*cking high horse.

[LADoug1]

Manners are sadly dead.

 

And graciousness has also gone by the wayside.

[jjkrkwood]

And graciousness has also gone by the wayside.

 

 

adjective

1. pleasantly kind, benevolent, and courteous.

 

2. characterized by good taste, comfort, ease, or luxury:

 

3. indulgent or beneficent in a pleasantly condescending way,especially to inferiors.

 

4. merciful or compassionate:

 

I think there's a time and place for everything, or NOT....

[mattr]

In my personal experience, and possibly skewed by the kind of clients I attract with my ad, 80% of my clients hire looking for an intimate encounter, for learning, for developing interpersonal skills, for companionship, for travelling.

 

Count me among the 80% and I am hoping the day will come when I can spend some intimate time with Juan!

[MasterMaxRR]

I have to reply to this because ive seen people give jjkrkwood A lot of flack because of his lack in Being PC. If you don't like his postings, don't read it. If you use offensive statements and can do it in a manner that's funny, you're a brilliant comic. If it's just an offensive statement, Then you're just crass. Congrats to jjkrkwood for accomplishing the former, personally, I look forward to his comments because they are realistic and downright hilarious. Keep up the good work!

 

Being called "meat" doesn't offend me in the slightest. It's a reality of the profession that we are quite frankly selling our "Meat" (double entendre) and to not acknowledge that I am a commodity is naive of me at best, a shitty businessman at worst. Having said that, there is a difference between using the term meat as a convenient label to drive home a point and another to acknowledge that there are many clients that don't see us as human beings, but a piece of meat. On the other hand being ONLY thought of as meat instead of meat with a brain and feelings feels degrading. However, seeing myself as a commodity enables me to apply effective business practices.

 

Point being, it is common in black cutlture to use the "N" word as a term of familiarity, but if a white man uses the same term, he gets rightfully beaten. Some will perceive labels as degrading, and some will simply see it as the truth.

 

In a nutshell, I've always taken words as not offensive, but the intent behind the word makes or breaks the use of it.

Just my 2 cents.

 

Master Meat

[DonaldTramp]

Love & light!

[marylander1940]

i will see an ad on rentmen and respond. Then get nothing back. I understand i plan in advance when i travel but even if they dont have an interst or will be unavailable is it bad of me to think it is rude to not respond at all?

 

 

They should reply saying they'll be busy or out of town.