marylander1940 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Please @MikeyGMin tell us the arrangement you've been able to make on here that don't include $. A ride to the airport for All sex work isn't escorting, just like all automobiles aren't trucks. Surely you know this. An escort just told me he has a client paying for his car lease in exchange for 1 service per month. Does the client pay cash to the leasing company? I know another escort who has a client taking him to Costco in exchange for 1 hour of fun? Obviously his grocery bill is higher than the 250 average for an incall... I pay cash in case yinz ask but as I said before (way before all the SA fantasy came to your minds) I had a student stay in room in my town house in exchange for sex 1 a week. Did @latbear4blk have a similar arrangement out of all the ones he made on here like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Are trophy wives escorts? What about ANY spouse or SO who is dating someone who makes a lot more money than them? ITs a spectrum. Kind off... but I'm sure some of them fell in love. What about kept men/women, they're kind of escorts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ goosh69 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Kind off... but I'm sure some of them fell in love. What about kept men/women, they're kind of escorts too. Then there are a LOT of escorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Agree that it’s certainly *not* empirically black & white Are trophy wives escorts? What about ANY spouse or SO who is dating someone who makes a lot more money than them? ITs a spectrum. marylander1940 and + goosh69 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reluctant Daddy Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Use your common sense. Meet him first in a public setting, for some coffee and conversation. We are not talking about hiring for one hour, we are talking about a long term arrangement, with multiple hours meetings involved. You should make sure there is good chemistry. If you are not confident, go slow. Your safety is paramount. Said that, you are not going to get much from a 7 days trial in SA. In my experience it takes a long time to comb away the bad weed, but there are very worthy guys in there. Check the series in my blog, you may find some useful tips there. http://ilikepinga.com/2017/06/30/seeking-sickening-arrangement/ http://ilikepinga.com/2017/07/11/finding-arrangements/ http://ilikepinga.com/2017/07/21/finding-arrangement-2/ http://ilikepinga.com/2017/07/31/finding-arrangements-3/ I’m a bit limited in choices since I’m only looking locally for an arrangement. Of the few replies I received from locals, his seemed to be the most promising. My big concern is how he buckled so easily in the services he was willing to provide. When I proposed deep kissing, I received a “I’m not into kissing guys” response. A week later I got an “I thought it over, and kissing is cool” response. The rationale behind the sudden reverse was that he tried it and really liked it. Most definitely a meet and greet over coffee before any arrangement is agreed on. Maybe it will work, maybe not. + José Soplanucas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reluctant Daddy Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Well, you certainly are at least a good judge of your own character/abilities, because your self-professed lack of good judgement in others is a huge red flag. But lets think that through: these guys on SA probably are gonna be stronger, younger, bigger than you. They are needing money, sometimes despartely so. There are a lot of Crazies out there, and some of them are criminal. Those types are the ones who will do anything to save themselves from whatever predicament they are in. Maybe you should stick with well-vetted escorts who you can better trust? There are just too many scenarios from mild/inconvenient to catastrophic/lethal that you could be a victim to. Or at the very least consider some very robust strategies for personal safety. For example, tell a trusted friend what you are doing and who you are doing it with. And seriously consider letting the guys you meet know this. That will give any SA jerk pause to think who wishes to harm you if things don't go his way. To be sure, all of us need to be careful and leery of Danger but some of us are better judges of character than others. I was born and raised in a rough part of town. My Red Flag Indicator is well-honed. I have been known to spot thiefs, liars, and manipulators from afar. Even knowing that, I know I am at some risk, but your self-assessent is alarming. I wish you all the best. Josh Perhaps to my detriment, I have a tendency to think others are somewhat honest and sincere (I was born and raised on the other side of town). It’s led to some disappointment, but so far never any dangerous situations. I guess it makes me an easy target for the thieves, liars and manipulators. Vetted escorts rarely make it to my neck of the woods. I usually have to travel and hire for weekends for that. It’s an expensive transaction, and can be hit and miss. Again, it’s led to some disappointment, but never any dangerous situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) Then there are a LOT of escorts. Agree that it’s certainly *not* empirically black & white Exactly trophy wives aren't escorts and neither are gold diggers. I did "patron" * this young guy for a couple of years during his time in college, he spent $ on food and housing in exchange for sex with me once a week. * I said patron because he was studying arts. I hope that's the right word at least in this case. Edited November 6, 2017 by marylander1940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyGMin Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Please @MikeyGMin tell us the arrangement you've been able to make on here that don't include $ I don't intend to tell you squat about my personal relationship. Other than it's very good, mutually satisfying, and does not have the transactional nature of an escort / client relationship. You've been given plenty of examples of when support (sometimes monetary sometimes not) are given and affection (sometimes sexual and sometimes not) is returned. That should be enough to make you think about your narrow view of the subject, or at least give you pause, but I really don't give a shit who you call an "escort." AndreFuture, pubic_assistance, BabyBoomer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I don't intend to tell you squat about my personal relationship. Other than it's very good, mutually satisfying, and does not have the transactional nature of an escort / client relationship. I shared on here this special relationship I had with a guy I "patron" exchanging a room for sex once a week in the 80's. Did I ever call him an escort? I don't think so. I could have rented that room for money to someone else but I didn't do it. You've been given plenty of examples of when support (sometimes monetary sometimes not) are given and affection (sometimes sexual and sometimes not) is returned. That should be enough to make you think about your narrow view of the subject, or at least give you pause.." It amazes how some folks on here go from 0 to 60 miles in just a couple of seconds. You can try to be condescending with me but it doesn't work, not from you... I hope I didn't offend you and I look forward to reading about your stories on here. ... but I really don't give a shit who you call an "escort." Tough language! I wonder if Freud would say bad words make an argument stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Populist Fury Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 My big concern is how he buckled so easily in the services he was willing to provide. When I proposed deep kissing, I received a “I’m not into kissing guys” response. A week later I got an “I thought it over, and kissing is cool” response. The rationale behind the sudden reverse was that he tried it and really liked it. He sounds like a desperate #gay4pay sugarbaby willing to say and do anything for money. Nobody changes their mind that quick & easily about something as intimate as deep kissing another guy. + WmClarke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) I’m a bit limited in choices since I’m only looking locally for an arrangement. Of the few replies I received from locals, his seemed to be the most promising. My big concern is how he buckled so easily in the services he was willing to provide. When I proposed deep kissing, I received a “I’m not into kissing guys” response. A week later I got an “I thought it over, and kissing is cool” response. The rationale behind the sudden reverse was that he tried it and really liked it. Most definitely a meet and greet over coffee before any arrangement is agreed on. Maybe it will work, maybe not. It is good to limit your choices, if you do not the options are just too many. As I explain in one of my posts, I was more successful when I excluded the guys who were not local or were looking for a high maintenance arrangement. Good luck! Edited November 6, 2017 by latbear4blk MikeBiDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 It is good to limit your choices, if you do not the options are just too many. As I explain in one of my posts, I was more successful when I excluded the guy who were not local or were looking for a high maintenance arrangement. Good luck! What kind of examples of high maintenance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) It is good to limit your choices, if you do not the options are just too many. As I explain in one of my posts, I was more successful when I excluded the guy who were not local or were looking for a high maintenance arrangement. Good luck! Same, I’ve got my inbox setup to filter out profiles from over 500 miles away. What kind of examples of high maintenance? In the profiles there’s ranges of “lifestyle expectations” starting at “negotiable”, “minimal”, etc. on up to “high”....about 5-6 levels with a pop up window explaining these and suggesting $$ amounts for each. My experience tells me then most practical, “real” guys I’ve met are negotiable/minmum. The higher ones are out of my reach, or more likely completely unrealistic thinking by a newbie young man. Edited November 6, 2017 by MikeBiDude + José Soplanucas, Bertster and + glutes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallahadesquire Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 In the profiles there’s ranges of “lifestyle expectations” starting at “negotiable”, “minimal”, etc. on up to “high”....about 5-6 levels with a pop up window explaining these and suggesting $$ amounts for each. My experience tells me then most practical, “real” guys I’ve met are negotiable/minmum. The higher ones are out of my reach, or more likely completely unrealistic thinking by a newbie young man. The distance is one flag; the suggested "premium" another. Two more flags are "Who would you like to meet? Men / Women". I restrict to Men .... otherwise it an almost guaranteed gold-digger. Also, I've found that a minimum age of 25 makes me feel less like I'm robbing the cradle. How does one filter out mail by age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Who would you like to meet? Men / Women” Yes! Red flag to “pass” that profile answer never works out + glutes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SROSFanboy Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I signed up for an intro 7 day trial and was pretty disappointed. Mostly guys looking to help them travel to the US from abroad with little to nothing in return. I have corresponded with a local college student. A 21 year old bi bodybuilder looking for help with his rent. He initially went from letting me service him to anything goes (including deep kissing) in discussion, after I declined subsequent offers and scenarios. He’s agreed to met 2-3 times a month in exchange, and is willing to do weekends for additional help. Since he’s not an escort, I’m not sure what warning signs to look for. I have zero intuition, and am a poor judge of character, so there’s that. I've been off that site for over 2 months now - just curious, what was the screen name of the 21 y/o bodybuilder? I talked with one in Ohio matching that description who seemed pretty genuine/nice, but then again the one in NYC who stiffed me also was very nice and communicative until it came time for him to actually show up. PM me if you prefer not to discuss here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I've been off that site for over 2 months now - just curious, what was the screen name of the 21 y/o bodybuilder? I talked with one in Ohio matching that description who seemed pretty genuine/nice, but then again the one in NYC who stiffed me also was very nice and communicative until it came time for him to actually show up. PM me if you prefer not to discuss here.... He stiffed you as in not showing up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Avalon Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) seeking arrangement means you've got to have the outlay to cut a lengthy deal don't assume it's some inexpensive thing. hiring an escort is very different than supporting someone full time robber is correct. you had 10 days together. move slow and use smarts They say two can live together as cheaply as one ;-)))) Edited November 7, 2017 by Avalon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SROSFanboy Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 He stiffed you as in not showing up? Yep - had bought him an air ticket, talked at length by phone with him, even the night before, and he never showed - discussed this earlier in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Yep - had bought him an air ticket, talked at length by phone with him, even the night before, and he never showed - discussed this earlier in this thread. I'm sorry to hear that! So many posts like about disappointments like that... hard to keep track who got stiffed, how and how many times... SROSFanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ goosh69 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Omg bought anair ticket for a stranger...I’d NEVER. MikeBiDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Omg bought anair ticket for a stranger...I’d NEVER. Ditto....my strict no-vary policy on SA is you get yourself to my local Starbucks (on your own) for a meet & greet. Period. marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Agree with you Goosh69, I'm a single parent and have two boys that go to a very expensive private high school. There are a lot of very attractive women married to these sloppy guys who make a ton of money. If the money went away would these women stay with these guys.....I am thinking not all of them! It's commerce plain and simple. Hookers...trophy wives. Do we really think Melanie lusts after Donald 's body? + g56whiz, search0925 and + goosh69 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glutes Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 "All right all you fucking sugar daddies are the same I don’t know why I even bother talking to your fucking old asses that only get dick by having money since you guys are ugly as fuck" This was received from a boi recently. marylander1940, + freecahill1965 and + goosh69 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ freecahill1965 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 "All right all you fucking sugar daddies are the same I don’t know why I even bother talking to your fucking old asses that only get dick by having money since you guys are ugly as fuck" This was received from a boi recently. LMAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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