Scumbag Mt Sinai ER doctor arrested for sexual abuse of 2 patients

[+ FreshFluff]

He'd better get at least as much jail time as any random rapist on the street. Of course, his crime was worse because of the abuse of patients' trust.

 

A prominent emergency room doctor at Mount Sinai Hospital in Manhattan was arrested on Tuesday and accused of drugging, groping and masturbating on a female patient and groping another in separate episodes several months apart, the authorities said.

 

The charges against the doctor, David H. Newman, 45, a proponent of reforms in emergency care who has written widely about improving doctor-patient relationships, describe him targeting young women for abuse when they sought medical treatment.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/20/nyregion/er-doctor-at-mt-sinai-hospital-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-2-patients.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=MostPopularFB&version=Full&region=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article

[rvwnsd]

I'm sitting here trying to think about how I would feel if I was aware that I was being molested and had no way to do anything about it. Absolutely chilling.

[+ FreshFluff]

Rvwnsd, that gave me chills too.

 

BTW, it made me wonder what the reaction would be if a gay doctor was caught drugging and masturbating on unconscious young men. We'd never hear the end of it.

[tedbear]

it made me wonder what the reaction would be if a gay doctor was caught drugging and masturbating on unconscious young men.

 

It happened in Chicago about fifteen years ago. The media simply wasn't interested in it so it didn't get much press play. The doctor did lose his license, I think.

[rvwnsd]

Rvwnsd, that gave me chills too.

 

BTW, it made me wonder what the reaction would be if a gay doctor was caught drugging and masturbating on unconscious young men. We'd never hear the end of it.

We would hear the call to prevent gay men from being physicians and to revoke the licenses of gay doctors everywhere.

[+ FreshFluff]

From the Daily News:

“I feel so bad for Dr. Newman being dragged through the mud on this,” said David Cundiff of Whistleblowerdoctor.org."

 

Hello? The legal system has to go through its paces, but where's the doubt here? There's a DNA match for the fluid found on the patient's gown. Let's give Dr Newman the benefit of the doubt and say the extra morphine was legitimately needed. There's still no way the patient could have consented legally in that condition. And I can't imagine that it would be legal for a doctor to masturbate on a patient in a hospital setting even if she had legally consented.

 

It happened in Chicago about fifteen years ago. The media simply wasn't interested in it so it didn't get much press play. The doctor did lose his license, I think.

 

It's probably more common than we think.

[+ quoththeraven]

People who admire his work will defend him. That's always true. Look at Whoopi Goldberg and Bill Cosby, or the people who admire Julian Assange despite accusations that he had condomless sex with women who were only willing if he used a condom. They want to deny that their hero could do anything bad.

[ny2222]

From the Daily News:

“I feel so bad for Dr. Newman being dragged through the mud on this,” said David Cundiff of Whistleblowerdoctor.org."

 

Hello? The legal system has to go through its paces, but where's the doubt here? There's a DNA match for the fluid found on the patient's gown. Let's give Dr Newman the benefit of the doubt and say the extra morphine was legitimately needed. There's still no way the patient could have consented legally in that condition. And I can't imagine that it would be legal for a doctor to masturbate on a patient in a hospital setting even if she had legally consented.

It's probably more common than we think.

The whole thing is so terribly wrong on so many levels

[+ Funguy]

I'm sitting here trying to think about how I would feel if I was aware that I was being molested and had no way to do anything about it. Absolutely chilling.

 

Think about stroke patients - I bet it happens more than you think.

[+ nycman]

Ummm...innocent until proven guilty?....nahhh.....that's boring....let's hang the fucker!

 

I have no clue if he did it or not, but let's at least wait for the system to work.

 

I've been following this case pretty closely and I didn't see anywhere that they had a

DNA match. Last I heard, Dr. Newman had just voluntarily submitted to DNA testing

yesterday. I find it hard to believe the results are already back and are public knowledge.

 

Again, I have no idea about his guilt or innocence, but you do realize that you've

only heard one side of the story. The part that really doesn't make sense is that

the ER staff offered to call the police. She refused and instead she choose to leave

with the "evidence". If she was truly assaulted, that was a BAD move. You never

want to be in sole possession of the evidence you're going to use against someone else.

 

Yeah, I know...she was drugged....didn't know what she was doing...post traumatic stress

disorder....just wanted to get out to there....even if that's all true...it was still a bad move.

Sit and wait for the police. Period. She's opened the door wide to accusations that

she obtained his DNA and planted in on the gown/sheets. It really wouldn't be hard to

do...of course you'd need to prove motive also...but just saying....there are LOTS of

people out there who have easy access to my DNA and could easily do nefarious things

with it.....grin

 

The "shot" he gave her also doesn't make much sense. Morphine given intramuscularly

simply doesn't incapacitate that much and that quickly. Also, he'd have a hard time

getting his hands on it. Not impossible but it would be odd for him to have such easy access.

If there was a second shot involved, and I'm not so sure there was....I'm betting on it being

something other than morphine.

 

So there you have it....my pointless analysis so far....there really aren't many "facts" out

there yet though so keep watching....!

[+ quoththeraven]

I guess I get to repeat my "rape and sexual assault are the only crimes whose commission is questioned" mantra, which often amounts to "women/rape victims are not to be trusted."

 

As for the defense of bad actors we think are nice people, see Exhibit A: an author defending the man who narrates her audiobooks, who just pled guilty to inappropriate contact via Facebook PM and possession of an inappropriate (as in sexual) image of a 14-year old girl. (Friends of mine are purging their copies of audiobooks he narrates.)

 

Also, on the same noon newscast I saw in the waiting room at the car dealer I went to today, the report about the subject of this thread was followed by one in which an Edison, NJ police officer who admitted to asking a woman in a hotel where he had responded to a false alarm to model lingerie for him is being reinstated on the police force after retraining!!! To be fair, this is due to a really stupid judicial decision, but still. I think he's a rape case waiting to happen.

 

http://abc7ny.com/news/new-jersey-cop-admits-asking-woman-to-model-lingerie-gets-job-back/1166603/

 

Which brings me to the following horror: why isn't the name Daniel Holtzclaw a household word? He's a former Oklahoma City police officer (former because he was found guilty of misconduct and fired) who was convicted in mid-December of eight counts of rape for sexually assaulting black women from a low-income neighborhood whom he encountered in the course of his duties.

 

https://bitchmedia.org/article/year-long-investigation-shows-hundreds-officers-lost-their-badges-rape-sexual-misconduct

 

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/daniel-holtzclaw-women-in-their-ow?utm_term=.fpX7LBG5KA#.mlnBgbaqr2

 

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/fd1d4d05e561462a85abe50e7eaed4ec/ap-hundreds-officers-lose-licenses-over-sex-misconduct

 

And people think rape culture is a term feminists invented to victimize nice men.

[ny2222]

Which brings me to the following horror: why isn't the name Daniel Holtzclaw a household word? He's a former Oklahoma City police officer (former because he was found guilty of misconduct and fired) who was convicted in mid-December of eight counts of rape for sexually assaulting black women from a low-income neighborhood whom he encountered in the course of his duties.

 

I think I remember this. It took the courage of one women to say that she wasn't going to deal with that shit and brought charges against the cop

Too, I would never marginalize the tremendous issues around women that are raped. Unfortunately it happens to men also. RAND estimated over 10000 male sexual assault incidences per year happen in the US Military and less than 1 in 9 of those get reported. It is a real problem for both. The military is pretty f-ed up when it comes to sexual assault and how they deal with it. Hard to believe but maybe even more so than the rest of the country

http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1966-most-victims-are-men-5-realities-rape-in-military_p2.html (not the best source but numbers a probably pretty accurate)

[+ FreshFluff]

So first of all, I'm neither juror nor judge, so I can say what I wish. I'll grant that there may not have been a second morphine injection.

 

Like you said, there would have to be a motive AND method. If she saw him before or after the hospital visit, his buddies will leak the info to the press soon.

 

And what about the second woman? I couldn't name or recognize an urgent care doctor on a bet. If this happened more than a few months ago, there must have been some reason she remembered him.

 

QTR, Mt Sinai is in a relatively diverse part of Manhattan. The alleged victim(s) here may well be minorities also.

[+ quoththeraven]

So first of all, I'm neither juror nor judge, so I can say what I wish. I'll grant that there may not have been a second morphine injection.

 

Like you said, there would have to be a motive AND method. If she saw him before or after the hospital visit, his buddies will leak the info to the press soon.

 

And what about the second woman? I couldn't name or recognize an urgent care doctor on a bet. If this happened more than a few months ago, there must have been some reason she remembered him.

 

QTR, Mt Sinai is in a relatively diverse part of Manhattan. The alleged victim(s) here may well be minorities also.

 

I've heard of Mt. Sinai but am not sure where it is. The accused lives near where I do in NJ, which is why NJ 12 was reporting it. What he is accused of may be similar to but is not identical to Holtzclaw, who used the authority of his office to coerce women into sexual acts while conscious. He didn't drug and then masturbate on them, and the suggestion is that the doctor thought the drugs and their young age would keep women from reporting him.

 

When I was working, one of my colleagues defended a case against a doctor who had female residents do "procedures" (I think they were CAT scans) that required them to fondle and scan his clothed junk under the guise of training. (He was also accused of other things.) The firm represented the hospital, not him, and privately we had discussions about how much female doctors in training can legitimately be expected to put up with. It seemed clear to us that the doctor was using his teaching function as a way to hit on and harass female trainees.

 

Police make mistakes, but an arrest was presumably run by or ordered by the prosecutor. Generally speaking, they are very conservative and only bring sexual abuse charges if they believe they have good evidence. There's every possibility that hospital paperwork or surveillance exists that backs up the charges. Being cautious runs both ways.

[+ quoththeraven]

Some followup:

 

On the author defending an admitted sex offender (he sent nude photos via Facebook to a 14-year old girl): http://jennytrout.com/?p=10022

 

On ex-cop Daniel Holtclaw's sentencing to serve 263 years consecutively (guess the judge was pissed at his exploitation and betrayal of his duties, as well as affected by the victim impact statements): http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/former-cop-daniel-holtzclaw-sentenced-to-263-years-for-raping-black-women/

 

 

Here's a first person account of a hockey fan's encounter - in the ladies restroom of a bar, not a hotel room - with Chicago Blackhawks' hockey star Patrick Kane, who's been accused of rape and had the person who reported the crime stop cooperating with authorities after her mother said something stupid on the media, leading them to drop charges. (My interpretation was that after her mother spoke and muddied the waters about the evidence and the victim saw the outcry and depth of disbelief from fans, she decided it wasn't worth it. It's also entirely possible Kane bought her silence.)

 

http://m.imgur.com/a/ZCheZ

 

Too, I would never marginalize the tremendous issues around women that are raped. Unfortunately it happens to men also. RAND estimated over 10000 male sexual assault incidences per year happen in the US Military and less than 1 in 9 of those get reported. It is a real problem for both. The military is pretty f-ed up when it comes to sexual assault and how they deal with it. Hard to believe but maybe even more so than the rest of the country

http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1966-most-victims-are-men-5-realities-rape-in-military_p2.html (not the best source but numbers a probably pretty accurate)

 

There's a reason I used the phrase "women/rape victims are not to be trusted." As you point out, not all rape victims are women, although such a large number are (and so many people can't conceptualize rape as happening to men)

 

that how we view rape is often colored by how we view women.

 

More on rape and sexual abuse of men by men in the military in a country (South Korea) with a very strict draft/conscription scheme:

 

http://thegrandnarrative.com/2010/03/31/sexual-violence-korean-military/

 

To summarize, it's something that's used to humiliate and reinforce the existing power dynamic in a situation where everyone is equally unhappy, and those who were subjected to it are happy to have an opportunity to dish it out as they gain seniority.

[josh282282]

I have no clue if he did it or not, but let's at least wait for the system to work.

 

That's a very fair and logical position to take. Especially since in our judicial system he's innocent till proven guilty.

But not to some, especially one female who posts regularly in this forum.

To that group, the mere accusation translates into a guilty verdict.

And the more salacious the accusation, the greater the likelihood of guilt.

No defense is deemed appropriate.

No jury trial necessary.

The same rights don't apply to men.

 

I have no idea about his guilt or innocence, but you do realize that you've

only heard one side of the story.

 

Very insightful comment. Thank you. Too bad not other people don't share this view, although clearly I do.

 

FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm a Feminist. Full on.

I'm pro-choice. Can't wait to vote in November my girl, Hillary Clinton (wudda done so in 2008, too if given the chance). I believe in equal pay for both genders. Love Planned Parenthood.

And yes, I believe rape occurs (too often) and I find it beyond repugnant.

Those found guilty should be put away.

For a very long time.

[Kenny]

"Golden Girls," Oct. 27, 1990: "Rose must deal with her dentist, who she thinks fondled her during her last visit."

http://www.tv.com/shows/the-golden-girls/feelings-5392/

[Guest]

At least in this instance, the rapist has assets and can be sued. Malpractice insurance definitely doesn't cover this kind of shenanigans.

[+ Funguy]

Why don't we wait for the DNA results.