extra time / rates

[+ José Soplanucas]

For a first time with an escort I prefer going to him, as Mike said earlier on in this thread. If the vibe is good, I make sure I leave on time and the next times I like meeting in my place, where I make clear to the guy that his company is enjoyed beyond sex, and he can leave whenever he wants.

If the vibe is not good, I would not like going through the experience in my cave.

[geminibear]

You see how someone proudly said in this thread "I can talk someone's ear off for 30 minutes". Being chatty is lovely and exciting. Deliberately abusing someone's presence or time by forcing a one sided conversation 90 minutes after your time was over while you are watching the clock is not being mercurial, it's just being rude.

Maybe you misunderstood me, or I didn't articulate myself very well, but my intention was that I am completely aware of my shortcomings i.e. talking too much so I would never book for a session for less time than is required to accomplish our mutual goals and the remaining time on me, I could spend being my charming mountain self and chatting with some nice guy about sports, or guns, the price of beef in South America or just the issue of being misunderstood by others.

[Juan Vancouver]

Maybe you misunderstood me, or I didn't articulate myself very well, but my intention was that I am completely aware of my shortcomings i.e. talking too much so I would never book for a session for less time than is required to accomplish our mutual goals and remaining time on me, I could spend being my charming mountain self and chatting with some nice guy about sports, or guns, the price of beef in South America or just the issue of being misunderstood by others.

 

It is me who wasn't clear, I am sorry.

 

I didn't mean to say that you abuse escorts' time because you are mercurial even though in hindsight that is how it presents. I apologize. That was careless of me. I know by bitter experience how annoying it is to be misquoted in here. Reading your post it is clear to me that you sound both mercurial and thoughtful. Who can ask for anything else?

 

What I was trying to do was to clumsily misappropriate the "I can talk someone's ears off for 30 minutes" comment as an example of how many clients have justified being unwilling (or apparently unable) to end their story and wrap up a session that ended a long time ago.

 

Again, my bad.

[geminibear]

It is me who wasn't clear, I am sorry.

 

I didn't mean to say that you abuse escorts' time because you are mercurial even though in hindsight that is how it presents. I apologize. That was careless of me. I know by bitter experience how annoying it is to be misquoted in here. Reading your post it is clear to me that you sound both mercurial and thoughtful. Who can ask for anything else?

 

What I was trying to do was to clumsily misappropriate the "I can talk someone's ears off for 30 minutes" comment as an example of how many clients have justified being unwilling (or apparently unable) to end their story and wrap up a session that ended a long time ago.

 

Again, my bad.

Let's rub some of that mercurochrome you're talking about on it and hug it out.

[Juan Vancouver]

HUG IT! RUB IT!

[+ Keith30309]

Time management is never my strong point. I find it easier to just plan on an extended session and anything left over is like JJT said "my company is his exceedingly great reward" Trust me I can talk anybody's ear off for 30 minutes.

 

Me too. I book 2+ hours and try to be mindful of the time, though I recently spent 3 hours with someone with whom I connected very well (and made up for it in a commensurate tip).

 

I have a tendency to talk allot as well, though it's mostly intentional.

First, if it's someone I've never met, I want to communicate my preferences and the context of them. If I am with someone perceptive with good emotional intelligence (EQ) this pays off and I'm richly rewarded. (On the other hand, sometimes the less perceptive guys' eyes will glaze over.)

Secondly, a huge part of the experience is making that connection with someone on an emotional level and I need lots of eye contact and talking to make that happen.

[stop]

Hey Jeepo,

 

Here's my personal take on your questions:

 

Absolutely confirm the rate. Specially in The States be clear that you are confirming the rate for time. Some guys are skittish if you mention money close to activities, which is wise, so make sure you make that a different paragraph. However, if an escort is avoiding confirmation of the rate, you might be better off skipping him. Nothing ruins a day more than an escort telling you after the session that his rate is higher than you thought.

 

If you go to Cartier and ask for the price of a tiara, it's just a price. If you walk into a spa and ask for the price of a facial exfoliation, it's just a price. Escorting is no different. Ask about the rate for the escort's time directly. No need to apologize. You are not being vulgar. You are just being a great client who is trying to confirm and clarify the mutual agreement.

 

Again, if you are looking for an extended session, ask point blank if the rate system changes. Any professional will gladly explain how he does business. This by itself is not rude at all. It would be rude if you said something like "How much are you worth" or "How much are you?". On the other hand "How much is your hourly rate and do you charge the same for additional hours?" is just a polite, matter of fact business question.

 

Lastly, and I recommend you consider this seriously, I believe it is in your best interest to be aware of the time and stop the session when your time runs out. It only takes a tiny bit of attention and it can save you a lot of trouble. I know of escorts who deliberately hide clocks and when the client (Perhaps thinking he struck gold because the escort is giving him free time) goes to pay he is charged for the actual time spent together, not the agreed upon time. Technically, since you made an agreement based on time price and you were informed of the cost of every additional hour, the escort is entitled to be paid. Some will be coy and will say "Oh, give whatever extra you think you should give" which is a soft way to scam you out of your money, some will be aggressive and threatening.

 

On the other hand, every now and then I get the client who will constantly be looking at the watch, and knowing full well they are 20 minutes over will ask something that is very time consuming, like fisting... and then delay things on and on. When I ask them whether they want to stay for an additional hour they feign being offended and threaten with the ugly "clockwatcher" tag. I never see this kind of client again. It feels really sucky knowing full well that someone is trying to scam you out of your time.

 

Get a watch for visiting escorts. If you don't want to watch the clock all the time, set up an alarm for 15 minutes before your allowed time and leave your phone in the open so you can't miss it.

 

Be the one keeping track of time. Don't overstay. It's a business transaction; clear boundaries and fulfilled commitments make for longer and happier business relationships.

 

 

 

I see a couple things here:

 

Many, if not most escorts will be squeamish about being submissive bottoms. It's a matter of safety. You should accept that and accept that many will simply not even respond to your enquiry for that reason.

 

Also many will not be amenable to a Skype session. If this is a non negotiable I see how escorts might not even want to waste their time answering. Not professional but understandable.

 

Lastly, you have to change the wording of your enquiry to create space between the sex clause and the money clause. On top of that, you should always ask "what would be the rate for your time?". Not the rate for this activity, not the rate for this kind of session, not the rate to do this. The rate for his time.

 

Hope this helps somewhat. Wishing you all amazingly fun encounters!

 

thank you.

of course as always you have imparted excellent advise. usually I'm pretty aware of the time situation. this was different and i wasn't aware until it was too late to do something about it. I was actually getting up to leave when he reinitiated things.

 

the rate thing frustrates me with a couple people I have talked to about setting something up. I have been fairly forward about it and I do put the rate questioning its own inquiry but it seems like some men are cagey about it.

[stop]

Who was supposed to keep track of time? When I see a client, I let them know I'm keeping track, so if we go over, it's on me. Conversely, if the client were to insist he watches the clock, if we go over, the extra time should come out of his pocket.

 

it wasn't agreed upon. Usually I pay attention but didn't this time. I kind of lost track of time.

[mattr]

Maybe you misunderstood me, or I didn't articulate myself very well, but my intention was that I am completely aware of my shortcomings i.e. talking too much so I would never book for a session for less time than is required to accomplish our mutual goals and the remaining time on me, I could spend being my charming mountain self and chatting with some nice guy about sports, or guns, the price of beef in South America or just the issue of being misunderstood by others.

 

I had the best beef in South America!

[geminibear]

This may seem random but you putting daddy in your profile as your occupation made me chuckle lol, it was cute

My parents weren't happy with my Daddy career choice. I was expected to go to the state agricultural college and eventually take over the family ranching business so imagine their surprise when I told them of my Daddy occupation and then showed them what I was currently working on.

[Hudson Hawke]

It's important to not be a time watcher but not being taken of