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Is it OK to ask potential hires of their HIV status?

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Rudynate Grand Master

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It may also have to do with individual circumstances. Porn stars like Conner Habib report always using condoms on set and have not experienced breakage. I'm fairly certain the sex they engaged in was vigorous and lengthy, as well as frequently interrupted.

 

This may be similar to my experience with lipstick. I assumed I was doing something wrong because it so often winds up on my teeth. Then an independent makeup consultant I went to told me some women's lips and teeth are configured so it's inevitable. The end result is that I only wear makeup (lipstick and blush) to events like weddings and galas.

 

I believe it when people say they have frequent condom breaks, but I don't understand it. In 30+ years of condom usage, I have had maybe two broken-rubber incidents. They both happened way back, in the early years of the epidemic, when everyone was really struggling with safer sex and before we had a lot of experience using condoms.

quoththeraven Grand Master

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Never thought of myself as feline. :D

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_spines

 

I feel so bad for my cat, who was dumped on our former vet's office doorstep pregnant. She did not enjoy being pregnant or being a mother. I suspect she didn't much enjoy the act that got her pregnant, either.

 

I always wondered what a prior cat, who had a feisty personality (and that's an understatement), would have done. (She was a mostly indoor cat who was spayed by the time she was a year old.) Sure, there's a biological imperative to being in heat, but I'm convinced that once the act was consummated, she would have turned around and bit or clawed the other cat.

rvwnsd Grand Master

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Here's what I'd like to know. Has anyone heard of someone who seroconverted from anal sex despite consistent and correct adherence to condom usage? And if it happens, wouldn't there be scholarly articles written about it because it would undermine the condoms will protect you public health message?

 

The same question came to my mind, so I Googled and couldn't find anything. I suppose, as AdamSmith stated, condom breakage could occur. However, I don't think condoms break that frequently. My suspicion is the people who seroconverted didn't use condoms every time without fail. My other suspicion is the statistic is bullshit. I find it odd that after the introduction of PrEP condoms suddenly have become less effective. I would be equally suspicious if Trojan trotted out a study claiming that PrEP caused cancer or was less effective than has been claimed.

 

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People should take precautions to prevent the transmission of HIV and other STIs. What form that takes is up to them, although there are STIs that only condoms help prevent and others that neither condoms nor PrEP address. But demonizing condoms to promote PrEP makes no more sense to me than demonizing PrEP to promote condoms. ...

 

One of these days a different method of protection against seroconversion will be developed and PrEP and its users will be demonized for not having jumped on the bandwagon of the new method. Then the condom will have something to commiserate with.

 

It may also have to do with individual circumstances. Porn stars like Conner Habib report always using condoms on set and have not experienced breakage. I'm fairly certain the sex they engaged in was vigorous and lengthy, as well as frequently interrupted....

 

They might change the condoms at regular intervals to avoid breakage. In fact, one of my favorite escorts would do just that. It was very sexy to watch him change them out and fun picking them up after we were both completely exhausted from a vigorous romp. We made it a game: every time one of us picked up a condom we kissed.

 

This may be similar to my experience with lipstick. I assumed I was doing something wrong because it so often winds up on my teeth. Then an independent makeup consultant I went to told me some women's lips and teeth are configured so it's inevitable. The end result is that I only wear makeup (lipstick and blush) to events like weddings and galas.

 

Gurrrl, TRUE DAT!! Don't even get me started on nylons!

 

Just kidding. I dressed up as Natasha from the Bullwinkle cartoon one year for Halloween. I make a very scary woman. I did learn that I wear a size 46 D bra. I still remember telling my parents. My mom's comment was "Oh, honey, that's good to know with Christmas coming up" and my dad said "I knew you'd have great boobs."

 

I often wonder how my folks would have reacted to the advent of PrEP. Once they knew my HIV testing cycle, they would remind me to get tested and if I didn't tell them my results they would ask. I think they would encourage me to speak to my physician about it, which I intend to do when I see him this month.

quoththeraven Grand Master

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Dear sweet jeebus! Warn us before you post such things! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

 

Hugs,

Greg

 

You didn't already know this? What kind of cat owner are you anyway? :):p:)

 

(For those playing along at home, I'm being jocular. It's called kidding. Hence the emoticons.)

seaboy4hire Mentor

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You didn't already know this? What kind of cat owner are you anyway? :):p:)

 

(For those playing along at home, I'm being jocular. It's called kidding. Hence the emoticons.)

 

Oh I knew just never seen it. Scary!

 

Hugs,

Greg

rvwnsd Grand Master

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Am I therefore to assume that the Forum lunch was not a 'very special occasion', or was I merely unobservant?

While I was not there and cannot comment from first-hand experience, latbear's posts lead me to believe he would be a muted shade kinda guy. You know, just to even out the coloration.

quoththeraven Grand Master

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The same question came to my mind, so I Googled and couldn't find anything. I suppose, as AdamSmith stated, condom breakage could occur. However, I don't think condoms break that frequently. My suspicion is the people who seroconverted didn't use condoms every time without fail. My other suspicion is the statistic is bullshit. I find it odd that after the introduction of PrEP condoms suddenly have become less effective. I would be equally suspicious if Trojan trotted out a study claiming that PrEP caused cancer or was less effective than has been claimed.

 

I don't know how likely it is that scientific studies, most of which are behind a paywall anyway, or even references to scientific studies, would show up early in Google results, as I suspect such events would be reported and treated one-by-one, similar to studies engendered by the man who was naturally immune to HIV who became a much-studied expermental subject.

 

Gurrrl, TRUE DAT!! Don't even get me started on nylons!

 

Just kidding. I dressed up as Natasha from the Bullwinkle cartoon one year for Halloween. I make a very scary woman. I did learn that I wear a size 46 D bra. I still remember telling my parents. My mom's comment was "Oh, honey, that's good to know with Christmas coming up" and my dad said "I knew you'd have great boobs."

 

TMI, perhaps, but I wear a size 42C bra and wear size 18 clothes. In my younger, pre-baby days, I wore a size 34 nearly A bra from a Playtex specialty line called Thank Goodness It Fits and my clothing sizes were:

 

Blouse: 4 or 6 petite (I have narrow shoulders and used to have thin upper arms)

Dress: 8 petite

Skirt: 10 petite

Pants: 12 petite

 

In other words, I used to be shaped like a pear and weighed less than I do now. Now I'm shaped like an apple or tomato. I have virtually no waist, but I have cleavage, which I'm still not used to. The cleavage is all due to pregnancy, breastfeeding, weight gain, and gravity.

 

My sister and daughter gave up on pantyhose before I did, but even though I am well within weight specifications for the size I buy, the waistband rolls down to my hips and the crotch migrates to just above my knees, so I've given up on pantyhose and wearing skirts or dresses if it's too cold for bare legs.

 

Me and pantyhose may actually be a better AdamSmith condom analogy than lipstick. :p

 

ETA: I did not attempt lipstick or any form of makeup at last year's forum lunch. It would disappear the minute I began drinking a beverage, and I had no desire to spend my time running to the ladies room to reapply it to the detriment of talking to the people around me. Plus sans makeup is how I am 99% of the time, so wearing it would feel phony.

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Guys and gals, I think we splitting hairs and making too much noise about very little.

 

Thank God for condoms. They kept us alive till now. Thank God for Truvada, it is heralding a time with fewer worries and it might be the start of a whole new way of treating and preventing. Use both, use one, use none, it's up to you.

 

Make your own choices. Study thoroughly the facts, and for God's sake, stop spreading misinformation based on personal bias, stop attacking others for their choices. Stop applying the 1990's logic to a situation that is entirely different. If you want to hang unto old ways of doing things because you feel it makes you safer, go ahead, but do not present those old ways as scientific facts. People who might know even less than you might be mislead by them.

 

As for me, I am very observant and make no exceptions... I always wear lipstick.

rvwnsd Grand Master

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I don't know how likely it is that scientific studies, most of which are behind a paywall anyway, or even references to scientific studies, would show up early in Google results, as I suspect such events would be reported and treated one-by-one, similar to studies engendered by the man who was naturally immune to HIV who became a much-studied expermental subject....

 

Good point. Nonetheless, we now have two effective tools at our disposal.

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