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Is it safe for an illegal alien to take the amtrak/Greyhound to NYC?

 

I know a local escort and stripper who over stayed his visa, besides escorting he has behaved like an exemplar visitor to our country. I wonder if it's safe for him to take Amtrak or Greyhound to NYC or would it be better for him to fly there with his passport?

 

Thanks for all the info.

 

I know some of yinz might have tough feelings about me giving him advice, but what the heck this is a forum dedicated to escorts, who are we to judge?

 

Sincerely,

 

Marylander1940

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If it is safe for him to fly, definitely safer for him to take the Amtrak or Greyhound. He doesn't have to go through all those airport check points. With Amtrak and Greyhound all you need is the print out of your ticket and any identification that has your name and photo would be enough. I traveled a few times with them while I was still a green card holder, they are less strict.

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If it is safe for him to fly, definitely safer for him to take the Amtrak or Greyhound. He doesn't have to go through all those airport check points. With Amtrak and Greyhound all you need is the print out of your ticket and any identification that has your name and photo would be enough. I traveled a few times with them while I was still a green card holder, they are less strict.

 

http://familiesforfreedom.org/news/releases/immigrants-%E2%80%9Cwe-were-set-amtrak-and-greyhound%E2%80%9D

 

I know this is old news, I know he shouldn't go to upper state of NY or anywhere near the border but I worry about him taking the train to NYC.

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I recently took Amtrak to NYC from BWI....I bought a ticket online, printed it up, and got on the train.....the conductor (?) came by, scanned my ticket, and moved on....I didn't show ID at all and, when I arrived at Penn, I got off and walked out into the city

 

I did have to put my name and credit card on the Amtrak website to buy the ticket....so maybe that might sound DHS alarms??....I don't know.....or maybe you can buy his ticket?.....

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I don't think ICE does this anymore for this side of the border, not if the present administration can help it. With them being short on resources, there are other aspects that they need to focus their attention to. You might want to check the route he's taking, haven't heard any news like that the past few years.

 

I have a friend who's undocumented, she conquered her fear of flying just last year. She was paranoid that airport officials would scrutinize her, she was flying from LAX to OKC. Before that, she took the bus. Does the escort have a credit card? Would renting a car be feasible?

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Unless there was some other reason for this person to be of interest, why would anyone care, legal or illegal. The last time I saw anyone asked for identification on a train, it was a movie in which people were trying to get out of Germany and escape the Nazis. "Pahpers. Ver are yer pahpers?"

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I recently took Amtrak to NYC from BWI....

 

Unusual choice of airports to fly into if you're going to the Big Apple. You know there are closer ones? ;)

But to answer the OP's question, no there are no immigration people on the train or at the stations. I understand that they sometimes check when taking the train from San Diego to Orange and Los Angeles Counties, though.

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Unusual choice of airports to fly into if you're going to the Big Apple. You know there are closer ones? ;)

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He actually had flown into Newark, visited with me, took the train to DC to hobnob with a local man, and then rented a car at BWI to drive out to see another forum member and ultimately made his way back here and to Newark. And that is the rest of the story.

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it makes sense, as long as he's away from the border and in a heavily trafficked way like the NE corridor, he'll be ok.

 

Unusual choice of airports to fly into if you're going to the Big Apple. You know there are closer ones? ;)

But to answer the OP's question, no there are no immigration people on the train or at the stations. I understand that they sometimes check when taking the train from San Diego to Orange and Los Angeles Counties, though.

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Just make sure he doesn't talk to any strangers. http://www.boytoy.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif

 

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Unless there was some other reason for this person to be of interest, why would anyone care, legal or illegal. The last time I saw anyone asked for identification on a train, it was a movie in which people were trying to get out of Germany and escape the Nazis. "Pahpers. Ver are yer pahpers?"

 

When I flew from YVR to SFO in 1991, I had to show my passport.

 

When I *drove* the return leg of SFO -> YVR ->SFO I had to show my passport (in 1990).

 

[ I was attending both gay games as a swimmer and member of the combined band and the IETF conference ]

 

When I was traveling around Europe by rail in 1976, I definitely had to show my passport many times.

 

Haven't traveled by rail in Europe since.

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When I flew from YVR to SFO in 1991, I had to show my passport.

Travelling between San Francisco and Vancouver you would have to show your passport, likewise travelling around Europe by rail in 1976, as happened to me travelling there that year. Europe is different now with passport free travel in the Schengen area. The common point is the crossing of international borders, whether US/Canada or intra-European borders. I was never asked for my passport travelling within the US, and I don't even remember whether I carried it when I lived there. Crossing the land border between BC and WA, the INS looked at my passport and asked where I lived, and when I said Honolulu, they were happy with that.

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I haven't been on the NE corridor bus since the early seventies. The mere thought of it sends shivers up my spine. The only advantage was that it stopped at 125th, which had buses over the George Washington Bridge, and I could go see my aunt and uncle in Englewood, NJ with relative ease.

 

I've only been on Acela once, in Business, and thought it was a ripoff. The door between cars was left open, and although it was the "quiet car", I didnt' find it that comfortable.

I'd rather take the Regional first class ... well, thirty years ago (1982) it was a much nicer experience.

 

If I had enough money, I'd buy my own train car - think the movie WILD, WILD WEST. One can arrange haulage on Amtrak, but I understand it's a tad difficult. Better to have your own engine.

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