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Damascene Contributor

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Kevin if right. They are not after johns.

 

 

No need to overreact. Take a deep breath, and realize that yours is likely one of the tens of thousands of emails registered with the site, which will likely not be looked into in the first place. My 2¢.

Kevin Slater

Kevin Slater Grand Master

Kevin Slater

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Rentmen seems to be offline already? Was Rentmen affiliated with Rentboy at all or did the owners of Rentmen do this as a precaution?

 

No relation between the two sites. I could only guess as to why that site is also down at the moment.

 

Kevin Slater

BaronArtz Grand Master

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Are they able to trace IP addresses through any emails or email addresses?

 

Exactly. I never registered. But they would have my 'junk' email address. If it leads to an IP address, you can always say that someone in your office used your computer. I doubt very much it will go that far.

 

For escorts who paid for their ads with a 'real' credit card it is a different story. Their names and billing addresses are known.

 

Will this be the beginning of the end of online escorting? Maybe we will see the renaissance of hook up bars, street hustlers and the like. If anything, not good for business in the short term.

JuniorNYC Contributor

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This whole raid is stemming from an incredibly outdated anti-prostitution mentality. Basically, they believe that prostitutes are the "victims" and that the real "bad guys" are the pimps (which they think is comparable to the facilitation of sex trafficking). The "pimps" in this case are people who own and work for RentBoy. Since they are promoting sex trade between state lines, it's basically, in their eyes, a form of sex trafficking. In reality RentBoy is promoting the safety of sex workers and is actually more of an "anti-pimp" establishment. We know that - the Department of Homeland Security does not. The whole money laundering charge seems to be stemming from the fact that these "pimps" are making money off "prostitutes" - and that's what's illegal here. It's so ridiculous and pretty sad, especially coming only a couple weeks after Amnesty International voted to support the decriminalization of sex work. Ultimately what this is going to lead to is the endangerment of sex workers as now the safety afforded from sites like RentBoy will no longer be as accessible to them.

jawjateck Veteran

jawjateck

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The criminal complaint sends several messages to unnamed targets, the chief message being intimidation. Interesting, I count 10 references to the review site and one reference to the forum.

Tonyko Proficient

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I walk by that door at least once a week had NO idea their offices were there. As far as going after johns, IF some persistant Junior Gman SHOULD find a big fish amongst the clientele it WILL come out because THAT sells papers. The rest whether they're registered used the email system used it every day or once three years ago etc I DOUBT have anything to worry about here. (unless they really DO persue the prostitution angle and scorts are called to testify along with their clientele, and if THAT happens there'd better be EQUAL focus on the HUNDRED TIMES the number of sites for hiring LADIES! )

BabyBoomer Grand Master

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This whole raid is stemming from an incredibly outdated anti-prostitution mentality. Basically, they believe that prostitutes are the "victims" and that the real "bad guys" are the pimps (which they think is comparable to the facilitation of sex trafficking). The "pimps" in this case are people who own and work for RentBoy. Since they are promoting sex trade between state lines, it's basically, in their eyes, a form of sex trafficking. In reality RentBoy is promoting the safety of sex workers and is actually more of an "anti-pimp" establishment. We know that - the Department of Homeland Security does not. The whole money laundering charge seems to be stemming from the fact that these "pimps" are making money off "prostitutes" - and that's what's illegal here. It's so ridiculous and pretty sad, especially coming only a couple weeks after Amnesty International voted to support the decriminalization of sex work. Ultimately what this is going to lead to is the endangerment of sex workers as now the safety afforded from sites like RentBoy will no longer be as accessible to them.

 

Junior, I just attempted to access your 2 ads: Rentmen no access. Rentboy shows your video, write up, Stat card, but NO PIX.

 

~ Boomer ~

jon1265 Contributor

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I still maintain that this whole thing is about MONEY. Laundering it and possibly tax evasion. I think the reason they are playing up the whole rentboy/prostitution angle is to show that the money was obtained doing something illegal (selling sex). I do not believe for an instant that even the government has the manpower to go after all the rentboys and johns from that site--which probably number in the tens of thousands. I think we can all breathe easy, as I do not think this will even go to trial. It will be settled out of court, but sadly, Rentboy will be no longer.

coriolis888 Grand Master

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This incident signals the end of an era for on-line male prostitution.

 

Although rentboy had a lot of fake ads and its management did little to weed out fake ads, the site did contain many ads that were genuine.

 

I cannot imagine what the American society will gain from spending enormous sums of taxpayer money to prosecute an issue that solely involves male prostitution.

 

The indictment's frequent mention of the daddy site is a concern to me as it probably is to many of us who have used that site.

 

Rentboy and sites like it have been operating for many years without issues other than fake ads. Therefore, there has to be something big that caused the fed's raid to occur. I wonder what the real reason is behind the raid.

 

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Nebost Collaborator

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I hope this is not the end of era of easy access and communication between clients and escorts. I'm sure all similar sites - Rentmen, M4RN, Backpage, and Daddy's site itself - are thinking about the ramifications , consequences and possible protections now. I don't want to go back to hearsay and word-of-mouth concerning whom to hire.

 

It's a sad day for our hobby.

BaronArtz Grand Master

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Thank you, that is very helpful. It seems that the research was pretty thorough. The government even had special agents attending Hustlaball? This investigation took a long time. Not a knee-jerk reaction done quickly for political expediency by an overzealous prosecutor.

 

Do we think that the careers of the escorts mentioned in this document are 'over'? Or will this give more 'cachet' to their business? Keep in mind that they could squeal under pressure. 'For a reduced sentence, give us the names and contact information of your top clients'. This could get really interesting.

RicardoMilos Newbie

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You really think the feds want to spend time and money going after individual escorts and or clients. I wouldnt think that was their goal. Closing down the site and prosecuting the owners makes more sense.

you are 100% correct.. this was about closing the site down and the FEDS getting their hands on the $$$$$$

Gar1eth Grand Master

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This whole raid is stemming from an incredibly outdated anti-prostitution mentality. Basically, they believe that prostitutes are the "victims" and that the real "bad guys" are the pimps (which they think is comparable to the facilitation of sex trafficking). The "pimps" in this case are people who own and work for RentBoy. Since they are promoting sex trade between state lines, it's basically, in their eyes, a form of sex trafficking. In reality RentBoy is promoting the safety of sex workers and is actually more of an "anti-pimp" establishment. We know that - the Department of Homeland Security does not. The whole money laundering charge seems to be stemming from the fact that these "pimps" are making money off "prostitutes" - and that's what's illegal here. It's so ridiculous and pretty sad, especially coming only a couple weeks after Amnesty International voted to support the decriminalization of sex work. Ultimately what this is going to lead to is the endangerment of sex workers as now the safety afforded from sites like RentBoy will no longer be as accessible to them.

 

I think most male escorting in this country does not involve people being trafficked. I know that it happens with female escorting. I don't want anyone being trafficked.

 

I'm also not very fond of Amnesty International. They are not as impartial as they are touted to be. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.

 

Gman

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