Treading on dangerous ground, but one more topic about rates

[Decatur Guy]

I know we've had a lot of discussion on this lately, and some folks are getting exasperated with other folks about this. So please, if you've had enough, don't go any further.

 

But if the topic still interests you, I had a hiring situation come up this past weekend that speaks directly to the issue.

 

In the past couple of months, I've hired two different Latino escorts. Both tops. Both very fit. Both are great in the sack. They have their differences, but ultimately they are more alike than different. I have written positive reviews for both that haven't been posted yet but should be going up soon.

 

This past weekend, they were both back in town, and I had a choice. One charges $200 an hour. The other charges $300 an hour. Since I liked them both, guess which one I went for? Of course, the $200 an hour. Also, while I was with him near the end, his phone rang. He asked if he could take the call, and I said sure. It was another client. (And it was quite interesting to hear the call from that side of the conversation).

 

So he was picking up business for sure, and he said Atlanta treated him well the first visit a couple of months ago.

 

I would still like to see Mr. $300 An Hour again. He's good. But it will be a week when I'm horned up and the other guy ain't in town -- and I've got an extra $100 to spare.

 

There are a lot of factors that go into setting rates, and each escort and each client has their own standards of what they will charge and pay. But for me, there is a quantity factor. I got two great sessions for $400 total from one guy and one great session from another for $300. It's much more likely Mr. $200 is going to get a third visit from me before Mr. $300 gets a second ... Just sayin' ...

[MiamiLooker]

You, the client, are the only one that can determine the value of a session with a specific escort. The escort can’t determine the value to you, nor can his other clients. If all other things are equal for you, then there’s no reason to hire the higher priced guy. Unless, of course, you have an uncontrollable need to report your hirings here. Some guys seem to get off on doing that.

[Decatur Guy]

You, the client, are the only one that can determine the value of a session with a specific escort. The escort can’t determine the value to you, nor can his other clients. If all other things are equal for you, then there’s no reason to hire the higher priced guy. Unless, of course, you have an uncontrollable need to report your hirings here. Some guys seem to get off on doing that.

 

Well, that was unnecessarily snide. Isn't the purpose of this website to discuss the hiring of escorts and share experiences and information so we can all make informed decisions?

[MiamiLooker]

Well, that was unnecessarily snide. Isn't the purpose of this website to discuss the hiring of escorts and share experiences and information so we can all make informed decisions?

My point was that some seem to get off more from bragging about hiring some particular escort here than they do from the actual appointment.

[down_to_business]

...Isn't the purpose of this website to discuss the hiring of escorts and share experiences and information so we can all make better decisions?

 

...

 

I used to think it was, but that bubble has long since burst. The site is a place for anonymous persons to push their agendas, with an occasional droplet of wisdom or tasty morsel of usefulness. I think the most useful aspect of this website is making an occasional "connection" with an individual poster that you can exchange private messages with on very specific topics of interest to you both.

[Despardo]

This forum is different things to different people. I like to believe it is open and see no problem discussing rates or anything else so long as opinions and comments are reasonably respectful. Participants come from different places and have different agenda, so one needs to be able sometimes to read between the lines. Take from each posting whatever you can use (or whatever amuses you) and leave the rest.

 

Obviously escorts have the right to ask any rate that works for them, which is usually whatever their clients are willing to pay.

[+ RyanDean]

It's important to me to feel like I am paying fairly and fully for the time I spend with a gent, so I think I can empathize with the OP's dilemma. Whenever I find myself doing something that feels like "bargain-hunting," I try to step back and find my bearings again. I believe this is taxing work and anyone who does it deserves to fairly compensated for their time. I'm happy to defer to the gent to determine a rate that he feels is fair.

 

That said, I do have some preferences that can and do come into play. I like to tip. I appreciate it when a gent offers a modest (or major) discount for the 2nd/3rd hour. I don't like "ask me." All of these come into play for me when I consider arranging something.

 

I try to be as generous as is sensible/appropriate. I try not to be greedy or cheap. I don't think I'm doing it right, just doing what feels right for me. That's all we can do.

[bobnyc]

Given that there are really no other options except for muscle service (which you can't even sign up for anymore) the forums are really what people make of them.

 

It's great for learning about fake profiles and other people's experiences sometimes. It's sometimes good for asking for advice depending on how people here take it.

 

It is however very difficult to go against the current of thought here. Most times you will be dismissed, ignored or in the worst cases, outright attacked. It's probably why there are many more wallflowers than actual participants.

 

If you just agree with the popular thoughts here and add no new information (what's an extra endorsement over the past ten do for me in decision making?) then you're safe.

[bobnyc]

So, you chose the guy with the $200 rate because he was cheaper. If you are so are many others. One would imagine in order to make what he expected he needs to take more clients than your $300 guy. Since he answered his phone, clearly he's just client hopping. I'd ask myself "how many did he see before I put his cock in my mouth"

 

Meh, if a client is truly scared or worried about such things then they shouldn't hire. The $300 one may bareback all over town in meth filled orgies when not on the clock and say they're safe only and the $200 may not do anything on the side and has to pick up the phone since they have just have a few good repeat clients.

 

What we both threw out there is pure speculation. Without further knowledge to back either supposition, each should be treated with equal weight, which is to say, very little.

 

If you can get what you want from a cheaper one then go for it. In general though, I've found that until you hit market rate you generally get what you pay for. Above market rate I generally find I've overpaid. I've found this to be true in both NYC and LA. It's probably different in other markets though.

[whipped guy]

I know we've had a lot of discussion on this lately, and some folks are getting exasperated with other folks about this. So please, if you've had enough, don't go any further.

 

But if the topic still interests you, I had a hiring situation come up this past weekend that speaks directly to the issue.

 

In the past couple of months, I've hired two different Latino escorts. Both tops. Both very fit. Both are great in the sack. They have their differences, but ultimately they are more alike than different. I have written positive reviews for both that haven't been posted yet but should be going up soon.

 

This past weekend, they were both back in town, and I had a choice. One charges $200 an hour. The other charges $300 an hour. Since I liked them both, guess which one I went for? Of course, the $200 an hour. Also, while I was with him near the end, his phone rang. He asked if he could take the call, and I said sure. It was another client. (And it was quite interesting to hear the call from that side of the conversation).

 

So he was picking up business for sure, and he said Atlanta treated him well the first visit a couple of months ago.

 

I would still like to see Mr. $300 An Hour again. He's good. But it will be a week when I'm horned up and the other guy ain't in town -- and I've got an extra $100 to spare.

 

There are a lot of factors that go into setting rates, and each escort and each client has their own standards of what they will charge and pay. But for me, there is a quantity factor. I got two great sessions for $400 total from one guy and one great session from another for $300. It's much more likely Mr. $200 is going to get a third visit from me before Mr. $300 gets a second ... Just sayin' ...

Funny, I had this same discussion with a colleague this very afternoon, and no we are not in the "oldest profession". In our situations we do not have an overly extravagant lifestyle. We both drive older vehicles. More importantly, we are not in it exclusively for the money. Many escorts feel the same way and don't see 10 clients a day, but only one or two and are perfectly content with charging a lower rate.

 

At times, I enjoy seeing a 300 per hour escort because of his particular attributes, at other times I enjoy the 200 per hour guy because he is what he is. However, there often is no correlation related to quality. The guys simply have different needs, desires, and even life styles and charge accordingly. Consequently they have structured things with different business models and charge what they feel to be appropriate.

 

At times I indeed feel guilty when an escort has provided an outstanding service for a fraction of what others have charged. Yet at times I have been dismayed when a 300 per hour guy tries to end a two hour session at an hour and a half seems rushed not only to get to me, but then to get to the next customer as well... and don't think that has not happened, and even when dealing with cream of the crop well reviewed guys.

 

So to Decatur Guy, I understand you completely. Plus at times we may not quite have that extra bit of cash, yet at other times we do and can afford to splurge a bit. Still, at other times we simply want to see a certain special individual and it does not matter if he charges 200, 300, or whatever.

[Strafe13]

You, the client, are the only one that can determine the value of a session with a specific escort. The escort can’t determine the value to you, nor can his other clients. If all other things are equal for you, then there’s no reason to hire the higher priced guy. Unless, of course, you have an uncontrollable need to report your hirings here. Some guys seem to get off on doing that.

 

I agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment. I live in NYC, and hire at home and when visiting L.A. (usually once or twice a year). In both of my hiring locales, I've been with guys at all different rates, and have not noticed any correlation between rate and quality of service. So much of what makes a session great, boils down to the connection between the pro and client, and the former's individual skills and talents, as well as his enthusiasm. There are many reasons that determine what an escort charges, and when and why they'll change those rates. I try not to get too caught up in that, since it has nothing to do with me. I just hire based on reviews, descriptions, other recommendations, and also whether I'm comfortable with the rate.

 

A few years back, I reluctantly gave in to what appears to be the new norm of $300/hr here in NYC, but have never felt truly comfortable at that rate. Hence, I don't hire that often. I first started hiring at that rate only because a well known, fabulously reviewed escort was visiting, and he gave phenomenal service. That opened my eyes to that rate, but of course, I've since had duds and so-so's at that rate, and have since concluded that only the best of the best should be charging such an exorbitant sum, and, sadly, most just don't meet that standard. I often get fantastic service from pros at $250/hr or lower. So, in my opinion, it's often a crapshoot. If the OP gets outstanding service from both escorts, then unless there's something unique about the more expensive one that he really likes, there wouldn't seem to be much reason to hire that guy more often, rather than stick to the less expensive guy.

[Strafe13]

Well, that was unnecessarily snide. Isn't the purpose of this website to discuss the hiring of escorts and share experiences and information so we can all make informed decisions?

 

By the way, I never took the comment as "unnecessarily snide," or as a shot at the OP. I thought MiamiLooker was referencing other posters, who, in the past, have seemed to brag about how they hired this hard-to-get escort, or were well off enough not to pay much attention to hourly rates. I thought he was trying to tell the OP that so long as he (the OP) was comfortable with the service received from the less expensive escort, then there was no need to worry about it, save for those kinds of posters who get off on it. I have no idea if I interpreted MiamiLooker's comment correctly. Funny how two people can read the same comment, and come away with different interpretations.

[+ WhamIAm]

Funny, I had this same discussion with a colleague this very afternoon, and no we are not in the "oldest profession". In our situations we do not have an overly extravagant lifestyle. We both drive older vehicles. More importantly, we are not in it exclusively for the money. Many escorts feel the same way and don't see 10 clients a day, but only one or two and are perfectly content with charging a lower rate.

 

At times, I enjoy seeing a 300 per hour escort because of his particular attributes, at other times I enjoy the 200 per hour guy because he is what he is. However, there often is no correlation related to quality. The guys simply have different needs, desires, and even life styles and charge accordingly. Consequently they have structured things with different business models and charge what they feel to be appropriate.

 

At times I indeed feel guilty when an escort has provided an outstanding service for a fraction of what others have charged. Yet at times I have been dismayed when a 300 per hour guy tries to end a two hour session at an hour and a half seems rushed not only to get to me, but then to get to the next customer as well... and don't think that has not happened, and even when dealing with cream of the crop well reviewed guys.

 

So to Decatur Guy, I understand you completely. Plus at times we may not quite have that extra bit of cash, yet at other times we do and can afford to splurge a bit. Still, at other times we simply want to see a certain special individual and it does not matter if he charges 200, 300, or whatever.

 

THIS. It's the person, not the price.

[+ VeryHappyCustomer]

THIS. It's the person, not the price.

Exactly. I would never trade one hour with my most expensive regular (J @ $300) for three hours with my cheapest regular (S @ $100). They are not interchangeable. The experiences are incommensurate.

[Frequentflier]

Well, that was unnecessarily snide. Isn't the purpose of this website to discuss the hiring of escorts and share experiences and information so we can all make informed decisions?

 

I'm not the owner of this website but my view is you are correct. Share as much as you want. Your post is a good diversion from pushing buttons in the Politics forum!

[whipped guy]

 

A few years back, I reluctantly gave in to what appears to be the new norm of $300/hr here in NYC, but have never felt truly comfortable at that rate. Hence, I don't hire that often. I first started hiring at that rate only because a well known, fabulously reviewed escort was visiting, and he gave phenomenal service. That opened my eyes to that rate, but of course, I've since had duds and so-so's at that rate, and have since concluded that only the best of the best should be charging such an exorbitant sum, and, sadly, most just don't meet that standard. I often get fantastic service from pros at $250/hr or lower. So, in my opinion, it's often a crapshoot. If the OP gets outstanding service from both escorts, then unless there's something unique about the more expensive one that he really likes, there wouldn't seem to be much reason to hire that guy more often, rather than stick to the less expensive guy.

I agree entirely and especially regarding the 300 NYC benchmark rate. Fortunately I don't live in NYC so there is less temptation. Of course in order to make ends meet NYC escorts need to charge at that level. However, that does not mean that they are all worth that rate. What surprises me concerns the fact that when NYC guys travel they charge the same rates even when they service lower rate markets. Some of those guys are not worth it when in those type of markets, but heck that's their rate are as such that's the deal!

[Steven_Draker]

Unless, of course, you have an uncontrollable need to report your hirings here. Some guys seem to get off on doing that.

 

My point was that some seem to get off more from bragging about hiring some particular escort here than they do from the actual appointment.

MiamiLooker, we look forward to your positive contributions about your hiring experiences ... if any

 

[thickornotatall]

I agree entirely and especially regarding the 300 NYC benchmark rate. Fortunately I don't live in NYC so there is less temptation. Of course in order to make ends meet NYC escorts need to charge at that level. However, that does not mean that they are all worth that rate. What surprises me concerns the fact that when NYC guys travel they charge the same rates even when they service lower rate markets. Some of those guys are not worth it when in those type of markets, but heck that's their rate are as such that's the deal!

I live in New York and consider $300 a fair rate for time....one time and one time only did I have some guy say it's now 50 minutes in to the hour....do you want me to cum?..No! I want you to go....I also spend a great deal of time in Florida and almost always the rate is between 250-$300...and usually the escort is from NYC....

I know if the escort is doing his job it is difficult work...and I appreciate that....Being in a LTR I almost never have time or want to connect with some random guy that may or may not click with what I like....An escort has a profile with details and stats that are hopefully correct..(read my other posts)

[MiamiLooker]

MiamiLooker, we look forward to your positive contributions about your hiring experiences ... if any

 

Sure. What do you want to know? I don’t know how helpful it would be since the guys I see are local and pretty much off the radar. But I’m sure there are guys like these in other cities, as well, so if anyone has anything specific to ask, ask away. I’m pretty sure the thread will devolve into a discussion of what is a “real” escort and what isn’t; and that it’s ok if you get a free hookup, but if you don’t, you have to pay $200 or more or it’s just not “real”.

[bigvalboy]

Sure. What do you want to know? I don’t know how helpful it would be since the guys I see are local and pretty much off the radar. But I’m sure there are guys like these in other cities, as well, so if anyone has anything specific to ask, ask away. I’m pretty sure the thread will devolve into a discussion of what is a “real” escort and what isn’t; and that it’s ok if you get a free hookup, but if you don’t, you have to pay $200 or more or it’s just not “real”.

 

Or if they are from Backpage...God forbid. Please please tell me you don't hire from Backpage Miami.

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/backpage-is-getting-very-scary.105485/

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

I've found the best correlation to quality of the experience with the escort is less about price and more about experience - - especially true when hiring for a multi-hour or overnight appointment. While I've hired guys at both ends of the price range, the difference for me is when I've hired escorts for have been in business for a while provide a more enjoyable experience than guys that are just starting out.

[MiamiLooker]

Please please tell me you don't hire from Backpage Miami.

It would make a lot of posters more comfortable, wouldn't it?

[Steven_Draker]

The site is a place for anonymous persons to push their agendas.

 

N o o o, this cannot be true ...

 

I don't see any anonymous persons in this thread trying to push their agenda!