Latest Coffee (caffeinated) Research

[wisconsinguy]

There have been what seems to be a ton of so called "studies" about the pros and cons of coffee. I have taken a liking to CBS Morning. There guest Doctor who updates on a number of issue is excellent. So often sites studies. However, she qualifies almost everyone. Stating that it is preliminary, new, and where it came from. My kind of person. This is what she said about the latest research on coffee. It was an amalgamation of thousands of all sorts of so called studies. Sorted out first on credibility. The so called credible ones were consisted in their findings. 1) A cup of coffee was defined as an 8 oz cup of black coffee. As she said, "Not a 30 oz latte with extra cream/sugar and whipped cream on top." 2) One to two cups really did not show up as doing to much. 3) Three to five cups had some significant health benefits. The screen that came up came and went so fast, I didn't have time to put it in my memory banks. The biggest one was a 22% drop in the development of Melanoma. There were a couple of cancers, and others. I know I could retrieve it. Three to five cups has MORE antioxidants than the recommended intake of fruits and vegetables. I bit of weekend trivia. My coffee pot is dry by noon! In my first treatment program I would have been thrown out for using a mood altering substance!

[+ WmClarke]

Interesting!

 

I can't handle the caffeine. One cup at 8 am and it keeps me up from midnight onward.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

I have only within the last 2-3 years started drinking coffee. It has to be iced—I don't like hot drinks except mulled wine and apple cider. I usually have a shot or two of espresso added to it to make me classy and mysterious.

 

About half the time it makes me wired, and half it makes me sleepy. Like, really sleepy. It's the strangest thing.

 

On the other hand, RedBull will keep me up all night long if I drink it too late. It's like that scene from "The Comeback" where they have cocktails with it as a mixer and then are wide awake in bed later.

[Rudynate]

I can't say enough good about coffee. I have 4 or 5 big cups every day of strong black coffee. I try to shut if off by 4P. Sometimes my partner will let me have a little splash in the bottom of a cup later than that. I love the taste, I love what it does to me, I love the coffee culture, etc., etc.

[Epigonos]

I find any form of addiction offensive BUT I am addicted to my morning black coffee. I go to the gym at 5 :00 a.m. and then to Panera's with friends for coffee. If I don't have three or four cups at that time I have a brutal headache by noon and that, my friends, is called addiction!!!!! Guilty as charged!!!!!

[bigvalboy]

I find any form of addiction offensive BUT I am addicted to my morning black coffee. I go to the gym at 5 :00 a.m. and then to Panera's with friends for coffee. If I don't have three or four cups at that time I have a brutal headache by noon and that, my friends, t is called addiction!!!!! Guilty as charged!!!!!

 

My sister suffered from the same addiction....it was brutal for her also. It took her weeks to rid herself of the need for caffeine.

[wisconsinguy]

I can't say enough good about coffee. I have 4 or 5 big cups every day of strong black coffee. I try to shut if off by 4P. Sometimes my partner will let me have a little splash in the bottom of a cup later than that. I love the taste, I love what it does to me, I love the coffee culture, etc., etc.

Same here! When I see my friend, he gets me a lb of different coffee beans from a place that roasts their own! The smells outside the place are to die for.

And! Spoken like a true recovering person! At least the thoughts on caffeinated have evaluated to a good place at support groups.

[wisconsinguy]

I find any form of addiction offensive BUT I am addicted to my morning black coffee. I go to the gym at 5 :00 a.m. and then to Panera's with friends for coffee. If I don't have three or four cups at that time I have a brutal headache by noon and that, my friends, is called addiction!!!!! Guilty as charged!!!!!

Curious question: Do you find the addiction and/or the person who is addicted offensive? Or just the addiction, or just the person? I personally believe there is a difference.WG2

[Epigonos]

Interesting question wisconsinguy. Unfortunately I'm not really sure how to answer it. In my own life I am a total and complete control freak (is that an addiction?) thus the very idea of becoming addicted to something is offensive to me. I have come to accept my coffee addiction BUT that is far as it goes for me. I have been able to justify my caffeine need because I have not seen enough research to convince me that it is harmful. Thus since addiction, other than coffee, has never been a problem in my life I will readily admit that I find it difficult to understand in the lives of others - probably a mental/emotional weakness on my part.

[Rudynate]

Yes, I also am addicted and I don't care. A couple years ago, I tried to stop drinking coffee. The initial withdrawal was brutal. My back ached so badly that I thought I had injured it. I spent a day in bed because of the backache. I stayed way from the stuff for several months, don't remember what caused me to back slide.

 

They've tried and tried to find something bad about coffee and they can't. The more they study it, the more health benefits they find. The one downside is that too much coffee stresses the adrenal glands. I'm done trying to quit. There's no reason to.

[Rudynate]

Same here! When I see my friend, he gets me a lb of different coffee beans from a place that roasts their own! The smells outside the place are to die for.

And! Spoken like a true recovering person! At least the thoughts on caffeinated have evaluated to a good place at support groups.

 

 

I got sober the old-fashioned way - in rooms full of people who smoked non-stop, made frequent trips to the coffee pot and sat there shoving cookies into their faces. People who went to rehab told me about the herb tea and the "no-sugar" policies, the meditation and group therapy and it all sounded hideous.

[wisconsinguy]

Interesting question wisconsinguy. Unfortunately I'm not really sure how to answer it. In my own life I am a total and complete control freak (is that an addiction?) thus the very idea of becoming addicted to something is offensive to me. I have come to accept my coffee addiction BUT that is far as it goes for me. I have been able to justify my caffeine need because I have not seen enough research to convince me that it is harmful. Thus since addiction, other than coffee, has never been a problem in my life I will readily admit that I find it difficult to understand in the lives of others - probably a mental/emotional weakness on my part.

I know many people, including my former wife of 42 years who said. " I accept addiction, but do not understand it." I accept and understand it. I kind of like the idea of calling the addiction offensive. But, in no way the person because of the addiction. Now that one is offensive to me! Even clumping them together makes no sense to me.

[wisconsinguy]

I got sober the old-fashioned way - in rooms full of people who smoked non-stop, made frequent trips to the coffee pot and sat there shoving cookies into their faces. People who went to rehab told me about the herb tea and the "no-sugar" policies, the meditation and group therapy and it all sounded hideous.

Again, same here! Did you ever have to endure the "hot seat?" or did you try to bury that one? Haha.

[Rudynate]

Again, same here! Did you ever have to endure the "hot seat?" or did you try to bury that one? Haha.

Hot seat? In meetings? Never heard of it. I came up in the "take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth" school.

 

The "hot seat" was an innovation of Gestalt therapy. Didn't know that it had ever made it's way into the program.

[Rudynate]

I know many people, including my former wife of 42 years who said. " I accept addiction, but do not understand it." I accept and understand it. I kind of like the idea of calling the addiction offensive. But, in no way the person because of the addiction. Now that one is offensive to me! Even clumping them together makes no sense to me.

 

 

I'm a purist. I reserve the work "addiction" for true physical addictions. Bad habits are just that and compulsions are just that.

[wisconsinguy]

Hot seat? In meetings? Never heard of it. I came up in the "take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth" school.

 

The "hot seat" was an innovation of Gestalt therapy. Didn't know that it had ever made it's way into the program.

This was used in addiction rehab programs for a long time. The person was seated in the middle of the circle and drilled, so to speak, by so called counselors. Part of theory that negative reinforcement, and tearing a person apart, will result in positive change. Goes along with years ago showing gruesome accident movies to drivers education students. Doesn't work, and it's ugly.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

I'm currently testing my coffee = sometimes sleepy sometimes wired theory right now, WIGuy.

[wisconsinguy]

I'm currently testing my coffee = sometimes sleepy sometimes wired theory right now, WIGuy.

I think perhaps I saw you both ways!!! You are just fine both ways!!!

[Rudynate]

This was used in addiction rehab programs for a long time. The person was seated in the middle of the circle and drilled, so to speak, by so called counselors. Part of theory that negative reinforcement, and tearing a person apart, will result in positive change. Goes along with years ago showing gruesome accident movies to drivers education students. Doesn't work, and it's ugly.

 

No. Never saw the inside of a treatment or rehab center - just white-knuckeled it in a lot of meetings, "90 in 90," as they used to say.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

Okay, I drank a Venti iced coffee with some h/h added and no sugar. I don't feel any more alert than before. I think Starbucks is scamming me.

 

Update: Okay, it just kicked in. I think I'm dying.

[bigvalboy]

Update: Okay, it just kicked in. I think I'm dying.

 

 

CLEAR..... Ya know, he's kinda hot.

[+ Socalguy]

Unfortunately, caffeine is like most drugs and you develop an increased tolerance. I start the day with a cup of coffee made from my Keurig at home. Then I have to hit Starbucks and get a Quad Venti Mocha which has four shots of espresso. Once at work, they supply us with freshly brewed coffee all day but after the Quad Venti Mocha I usually switch to Diet Coke and will have at least 6 of those a day.

[rvwnsd]

 

CLEAR..... Ya know, he's kinda hot.

 

I'm visualizing him without the scrubs.

[Rod Hagen]

Been drinking coffee for 38 years. Better than my Mother's Milk or Nectar of the Gods. I have a sexual relationship with coffee and espresso. God Damn I love coffee and God Damn the Hipsters for bastardizing it.

 

Regarding addiction: As long as you brew Decaf 4 or 5 mornings a week, keeping Leaded only for the special occasions like a pre-dawn mountain bike ride or butt-crack-Of-Dawn flight, you should remain free of chemical addiction (you'll remain addicted to the ritual and the taste (decaf Sumatra is every bit as good as the caffeine version), but so what?)

 

Don't quit cold turkey or your head will explode. The first few days Taper off by combining decaf and caf grounds. I made the switch years ago. I love my coffee and I love not being addicted. And when I need the jolt, I take it.

[AdamSmith]

Starbucks doesn't show my favorite item on the menu board but they do have it programmed into the register: a Quad Espresso. $2.78 or something like that.