On Tallywacker Size

[+ Gar1eth]

I'll admit that I'm envious of guys with large tallywackers. I realize most of us want to be bigger than we are. And others will say that the brain is the true sex organ, so it doesn't matter. But speaking for the underendowed-it really can matter. (I wonder how many people who say that about the brain are either well-endowed so it's no sweat off them to say that or on the other hand are under-endowed and using this to console themselves. )

 

I mean just today I saw an ad of a guy who looked to be at least 7," and he classified himself as average. I always marvel at escorts that do that when they are so much larger than I am. Average in the porn/escort world is obviously much different than with us regular guys. While medically I don't have a micropenis. I think I am either at or just a tad under the average reported in that study of 5.xx. I still wonder about that study as most guys I have met-even the non porn guys or the occasional non escort are usually much longer. While I've met smaller guys like me-on average most guys even the non porn guys have been larger. Some guys have been a lot larger. And I don't think this is Recall Effect. If anything I would love to see more underendowed guys like me-it would boost my embarrassment over being underendowed.

 

I don't think I ever saw the standard deviation mentioned in that article. That would be the range of differences in size around the average. But I'd bet it might be large. I also think that a better average measure for tallywacker size might be the median rather than the mean. The median of course being the middle value in a collection of objects as opposed to the mean which is more of a computational middle.

 

So why am I bringing this up? It's because I had one of my rare non escort meetings the other night. It was with a guy I had been talking to for over a year. Suddenly the stars fell in place for a meeting. But the gods must have been needing a laugh because I wasn't really able to perform that well. The guy was 3 inches taller than me which makes things difficult to begin with-and he had large butt cheeks. And when you are shorter in height and underendowed at only 5 or so inches-well it adds to perfect storm of difficulty in topping. Even if I were an inch longer it would have helped. The irony is the guy I was with had a large and extremely thick tallywacker but prefers to bottom. Even if I bottomed which I don't and won't, he might have been too large for me.

 

Sorry I just had to vent. And I am not really interested in meeting with this guy again even if he were willing to after my failure. He's a big time smoker. He didn't smoke while I was there. But his house reeked of smoke. The place was so permeated with smoke even though no smoking went on while I was there that my clothes came out smelling like smoke by the time I left.

 

Gman

[sincitymix]

well I can certainly sympathize G. I just recently was with an escort that made me put on my NO ENTRY sign. He was so thick I think my bum clenched so tight it momentarily became a black hole.

[+ Gar1eth]

well I can certainly sympathize G. I just recently was with an escort that made me put on my NO ENTRY sign. He was so thick I think my bum clenched so tight it momentarily became a black hole.

 

My bum has a permanent NO ENTRY sign on it. In fact just below the words NO ENTRY I had written EXIT ONLY!!!NO EXCEPTIONS!!! THIS MEANS YOU!!!!:D

 

Gman

[ZhenXBear]

I'll admit that I'm envious of guys with large tallywackers. I realize most of us want to be bigger than we are. And others will say that the brain is the true sex organ, so it doesn't matter. But speaking for the underendowed-it really can matter. (I wonder how many people who say that about the brain are either well-endowed or on the other hand under-endowed)

 

I mean just today I saw an ad of a guy who looked to be at least 7," and he classified himself as average. I always marvel at escorts that do that when they are so much larger than I am. Average in the porn/escort world is obviously much different than with us regular guys. While medically I don't have a micropenis. I think I am either at or just a tad under the average reported in that study of 5.xx. I still wonder about that study as most guys I have met-even the non porn guys or the occasional non escort are usually much longer. While I've met smaller guys like me-on average most guys even the non porn guys have been larger. Some guys have been a lot larger. And I don't think this is Recall Effect. If anything I would love to see more underendowed guys like me-it would boost my embarrassment over being underendowed.

 

I don't think I ever saw the standard deviation mentioned in that article. That would be the range of differences in size around the average. But I'd bet it might be large. I also think that a better average measure for tallywacker size might be the median rather than the mean. The median of course being the middle value in a collection of objects as opposed to the mean which is more of a computational middle.

 

So why am I bringing this up? It's because I had one of my rare non escort meetings the other night. It was with a guy I had been talking to for over a year. Suddenly the stars fell in place for a meeting. But the gods must have been needing a laugh because I wasn't really able to perform that well. The guy was 3 inches taller than me which makes things difficult to begin with-and he had large butt cheeks. And when you are shorter in height and underendowed at only 5 or so inches-well it adds to perfect storm of difficulty in topping. Even if I were an inch longer it would have helped. The irony is the guy I was with had a large and extremely thick tallywacker but prefers to bottom. Even if I bottomed which I don't and won't, he might have been too large for me.

 

Sorry I just had to vent. And I am not really interested in meeting with this guy again even if he were willing to after my failure. He's a big time smoker. He didn't smoke while I was there. But his house reeked of smoke. The place was so permeated with smoke even though no smoking went on while I was there that my clothes came out smelling like smoke by the time I left.

 

Gman

 

It sounds like the issue was kind of...positional, perhaps? A lot of times that can overcome these kinds of obstacles. Don't worry about not being able to perform. The first time I was with both of my hires, I didn't cum. It's not that I didn't want to, I was just really emotionally overwhelmed (in a good way) with what was happening. I've been a monk for a long while before this venture (3 years) so I didn't beat myself up about it. My 2nd guy was so sweet about it, he wanted to keep trying, if I did, but then saw the smile and look on my face and instinctively (God, he's good) asked me if I'd rather cuddle, which got him a "Yes, please" out of me. For me, that's even more amazing than the orgasm because the combination of the conversation and 'closeness' were very special; It's a snapshot in time that I've saved to my 'perfect moments' and I felt just as close to him, as I did any boyfriend I've had.

[Lankypeters]

The size of the wand has nothing to do with the magic it weaves.

[+ Gar1eth]

The size of the wand has nothing to do with the magic it weaves.

I will have to disagree even if only from a physical standpoint. Believe me I know. I've found, and it's probably something that guys who are better endowed don't have to deal with, that there can be real challenges depending on height (I'm also unfortunately underendowed there also as I'm only 5'8")-"canoodling" with guys who are taller than I am can be a problem esp those over 6', if a guy has large butt cheeks-that can cause difficulty in even 'approaching' entry, and also I've noticed over the years that the location of guys anuses varies. Some guys are positioned more forward, others more backward.

 

If you combine a tall guy with big butt cheeks and a more backward positioned anus, you are just asking for trouble in me consummating the relationship. I've definitely had trouble topping these types of guys just because of a lack of 'wherewithal' so to speak. In other word, my spirit was willing but my flesh was too underendowed. As Mme. Thenardier laments in Les Miz,"Thinks he's quite a lover, but there's not much there." I know how she feels being a member of the "not much there" crowd. In fact I'm not just a member, I'm President.

 

Gman

[ZhenXBear]

with guys who are taller than I am can be a problem esp those over 6', if a guy has large butt cheeks-that can cause difficulty in even 'approaching' entry, and also I've noticed over the years that the location of guys anuses varies. Some guys are positioned more forward, others more backward.

 

[Captain Kirk Voice]: Pillows, Mr Scott! We need more pillows!

 

I'm still fixated on this butt cheek problem. Are we talking a huskier/bear guy with bigger buns or are we talking the male version of the Kim Kardashian ass? Both scenarios with a more posteriorly positioned anus vs. an anteriorly positioned one?

[TruHart1]

Interesting topic, Gman. I know there are quite a few "size queens" 'round these parts but I have had some very memorable and HOT experiences with an underendowed man or two! It is kind of a thrill for me to be able to swallow a smaller dick all the way down to the pubes without cutting off my windpipe sometimes, although that (cutting off my air) can be quite a thrill too! Have I mentioned that I love COCK? Size matters very little except when I need to relax to try to accommodate a monster when I bottom, sometimes possible, sometimes not. Still, I ALWAYS enjoy myself regardless of the size. As for topping those big-cheeked asses, I have had a few problems myself with that, depending on placement of the anus. Still, if I can't easily mount I can sure enjoy having my face buried there and that can be the hottest experience of all for me!!!

 

TruHart1

[wisconsinguy]

Interesting topic, Gman. I know there are quite a few "size queens" 'round these parts but I have had some very memorable and HOT experiences with an underendowed man or two! It is kind of a thrill for me to be able to swallow a smaller dick all the way down to the pubes without cutting off my windpipe sometimes, although that (cutting off my air) can be quite a thrill too! Have I mentioned that I love COCK? Size matters very little except when I need to relax to try to accommodate a monster when I bottom, sometimes possible, sometimes not. Still, I ALWAYS enjoy myself regardless of the size. As for topping those big-cheeked asses, I have had a few problems myself with that, depending on placement of the anus. Still, if I can't easily mount I can sure enjoy having my face buried there and that can be the hottest experience of all for me!!!

 

TruHart1

+1. Especially the last sentence. WG2

[+ Gar1eth]

Still, if I can't easily mount I can sure enjoy having my face buried there and that can be the hottest experience of all for me!!!

 

TruHart1

 

I'm glad to know that am not the only one, if I may use a sports metaphor here, having trouble mounting and sticking it. However as I know I posted fairly recently in another thread, one of the maxims I live my life by is 'Neither a borrower nor a rimmer be'!!

 

Gman

[Lankypeters]

Even the most gymnastic, athletic fucker in the world can't and/or won't do everything. And he doesn't have to. Find your own way to a spectacular orgasm.

[+ purplekow]

Gar1eth Are you ever happy when you sit down to post here? I hope the rest of your life is so much more satisfying than the stifled and limited side of life you present here. Perhaps you have a small penis, but jeez, figure out a way to use the goddamn thing, You talked to this guy for a year and now plan on dropping him because of a hard to fuck ass on a tall guy who cigarette smokes. Deal with the hand you were dealt and work on some skills that will stop you from moaning and groaning and will get a partner moaning and groaning, Complain and sulk or change and fuck, PICK.

[+ Gar1eth]

Gar1eth Are you ever happy when you sit down to post here? I hope the rest of your life is so much more satisfying than the stifled and limited side of life you present here.

 

No, my life is pretty much as I present it on here-possibly actually worse in real life. But I appreciate your hope for me that it was better outside the Forum. That was very thoughtful of you.

 

You talked to this guy for a year and now plan on dropping him because of a hard to fuck ass...

 

It's one of those things where you know it's not going to work out. He didn't seem that anxious to repeat either. And even if things had gone better, the smoking thing is a big turn off for me. As it is I've had a cough for a month now due to allergies. I really could never be with someone that smoked that much I'd never quit coughing.

 

 

As for being better in the sack-if I could I would.

 

Gman

[+ dutchmuch]

It aint the meat its the motion

That makes your daddy wanna rock

It aint the meat its the motion

Its the movement it isnt the stock

[AdamSmith]

OK, today's biomechanics lesson, kiddies. If your friend will lie on his back, hike his legs up and back behind his ears, and elevate his butt a bit (a convenient pillow, Yellow Pages or Webster's Unabridged may be wedged under him to assist this maneuver if needed ), his rosebud will present like a blushing maiden. Plow away!

[TruHart1]

OK, today's biomechanics lesson, kiddies. If your friend will lie on his back, hike his legs up and back behind his ears, and elevate his butt a bit (a convenient pillow, Yellow Pages or Webster's Unabridged may be wedged under him to assist this maneuver if needed ), his rosebud will present like a blushing maiden. Plow away!

 

Gman: +1 what he said!!! Have the tall guys with big butts do that and get to fucking that ass, baby!!!

 

TruHart1

[+ Gar1eth]

OK, today's biomechanics lesson, kiddies. If your friend will lie on his back, hike his legs up and back behind his ears, and elevate his butt a bit (a convenient pillow, Yellow Pages or Webster's Unabridged may be wedged under him to assist this maneuver if needed ), his rosebud will present like a blushing maiden. Plow away!

 

Gman: +1 what he said!!! Have the tall guys with big butts do that and get to fucking that ass, baby!!!

 

TruHart1

 

That's my favorite topping position. But again depending on how big the buttocks are and how retro-positioned the rosebud is, sometimes it just doesn't work out. Also lots of times when I try to 'rock' to use DutchMuch's lingo, the old in-n-out/back-and-forth as it were, I fall out. I wish I were lengthier guys as do my almost non-existent partners. But I'm not.

 

Also keep in mind that some guys aren't limber enough or don't enjoy having their knees brought back even with their ears. And for those who can't or don't like, I can't blame them. I'm not limber enough to do an Olga Korbut impersonation either.

 

 

Gman

[BabyBoomer]

Hey Gman, I blame all this on Seth Santoro & his average size cock.

 

~ Boomer ~

[+ Gar1eth]

Hey Gman, I blame all this on Seth Santoro & his average size cock.

 

~ Boomer ~

If only I could be that average!!!

 

Gman

[+ sync]

Gman, I once overheard a conversation at a happy hour that I have committed to memory. One gentleman was concerned about his penis not being long enough to which the other gentleman replied "if it reaches your body, it's long enough." I say lighten up on yourself. While one's penis may or may not please others, its primary deliverance of pleasure should be to oneself. The penis is not the whole package. How many times have we heard "that jerk is the biggest dick in the world."

[Guest Starbuck]

Even the most gymnastic, athletic fucker in the world can't and/or won't do everything. And he doesn't have to. Find your own way to a spectacular orgasm.

 

Gar1eth ... I hope the rest of your life is so much more satisfying than the stifled and limited side of life you present here.

 

I say lighten up on yourself. While one's penis may or may not please others, its primary deliverance of pleasure should be to oneself. The penis is not the whole package.

 

When people try to offer help--or hope--and every suggestion or word of encouragement is met with a negative response, the real problem is attitude. I'm not saying that to be mean to you, Gman. I hope you can find a way to improve the ratio of disappointments and pleasures in your life. (Not just in bed--in life.) I'm not suggesting that that's easily accomplished, but I know it's worth the effort. If you can't immediately see a way to better any of the circumstances that make you unhappy, try for some perspective. Volunteer at a local homeless shelter, or food bank, or senior center, or hospital, or HIV/AIDS organization, for example. Help some folks in circumstances more dire than yours; the world is full of them.

[+ Gar1eth]

When people try to offer help--or hope--and every suggestion or word of encouragement is met with a negative response, the real problem is attitude. I'm not saying that to be mean to you, Gman. I hope you can find a way to improve the ratio of disappointments and pleasures in your life. (Not just in bed--in life.) I'm not suggesting that that's easily accomplished, but I know it's worth the effort. If you can't immediately see a way to better any of the circumstances that make you unhappy, try for some perspective.

 

I'm not saying you are totally wrong. But suggestions offered with the best intentions in the world -especially when you don't actually know the person or the exact situation they are in may not always be extremely helpful. So while I can be appreciative of the attempt, if the suggestions aren't feasible for me, they aren't feasible. In this case I know from trial and effort over 13 years of having sex what is physically possible and what is physically impossible. I know I'm smaller than average. I had years of gym classes with showers when I was in school. I know how my pants don't really show a bulge unless I get an erection. I see how a large portion of other guys pants do show bulges. I also know how my tallywacker functions-and the problems I've had because I'm underendowed. Maybe other guys on the 'small side of things' function differently. I was describing what I've found to be true for me.

 

Still I too have been in the situation where you think you are offering the best suggestions in the world to someone. And you can't understand why they aren't immediately incorporating them into their life. It's frustrating. So I guess in the future I will just answer 'Thank you for the suggestion'.

 

Gman

[+ poolboy48220]

There's also a line in a book I read, a woman looked down at her partner's dick and said "Who do you expect to satisfy with that?" He answered "Me". :-)

 

I'm probably about the same size as Gareth, from the description - not a micropenis, but definitely below average. There are times where I'd just like to have a little heft or swing in the locker room.

 

Apart from that, I'm no size queen. I definitely enjoy the times I've been with both larger guys and smaller guys, and sometimes, it's just nice to not have your jaw ache.

[AdamSmith]

One of the most enjoyable and, to me, hottest escorts I ever hired was a little Vietnamese guy who worked for several years in Portland, OR. He was not much over 4" hard, but knew how to use it. First time together, I topped him, then when I asked him to top me, he exclaimed, "Nobody ever asks me that!" Clients always assumed he was strictly a bottom, he said, or they just didn't care, wanting only to top him. Well, he was the Energizer Bunny, his energy and passion and stamina giving me a great time--and sore bottom! I always looked forward to seeing him whenever I was in Portland on business, which was about once a year over a five-year period he was working there. Alas retired now.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

As for being better in the sack-if I could I would.

 

Here's a quick and easy suggestion: ban the word "tallywacker" forever from your lexicon. Coming from someone who finds older men hot—if I got a text or email about my "tallywacker," I would hit <DELETE>.

 

It's a word with no attractive or sexual quality whatsoever.