Is Ultra High End Rent Boy Market Dying Out

[+ FreshFluff]

It's no different than a straight guy giving his hot woman a diamond broach. Yes, it is a gift of love for his soul mate.

 

But he is also hoping to get laid later on.

 

It's good to have hopes and dreams.

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[marylander1940]

Just had two recent experiences and wondered if the new openess of the world to gay men and gay relationships is ending the ultra high end rent boy paradigm.

 

When I was in college, I was aware that guys like me...bogie golfer, double black diamond skier, USTA rated tennis player, middle class family roots and well read, could appear as a young protege of a closeted guy and make a ton of money.

 

I was recently in PS and met many successful retired Daddys and then went to a very elite private golf club in So Cal with a member and realized, that high profile gay men can now just take a legitimate young gay protege with them anywhere, and no one cares.

 

Is the High End RentBoy market dying?

 

I think you're confusing high end prostitution with a "kept man/boy"...

 

I think gay men living out of the closet obviously affects both kinds of relationship but if you're old and you want to have sex with younger folks, unless you run into a gerontophile , you have to pay per hour, day, weekend (escort) or pay for a car, college, house, etc (kept boy).

 

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[marylander1940]

I think high-end clients who engage in a sugar daddy arrangement will want some form or exclusivity. I am not aware of an escort having multiple sugar daddies simultaneously. It could be possible, of course, but I doubt it. Certainly not at the high-end side of the market.

 

Also, why would it be 'added work'? Think of all the time you save if you don't have to respond to inquiries from your escort ad anymore.

 

I'd rather having one "big fish" sugar daddy instead of having sex with 10 guys per week, as long as the $ is right.

 

I agree with you!

 

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[BaronArtz]

I'd rather having one "big fish" sugar daddy instead of having sex with 10 guys per week, as long as the $ is right.

 

I agree with you!

 

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You are welcome. The problem with the 'big fish' sugar daddy, however, is that it is risky. What if he gets tired of you (the escort), or if there is a conflict of sorts? Then you end up having to start all over again. You may have to put up your ad again. Unless if you found an even bigger fish at the Greenwich Polo Club. It can be stressful.

[marylander1940]

You are welcome. The problem with the 'big fish' sugar daddy, however, is that it is risky. What if he gets tired of you (the escort), or if there is a conflict of sorts? Then you end up having to start all over again. You may have to put up your ad again. Unless if you found an even bigger fish at the Greenwich Polo Club. It can be stressful.

 

You're right!

 

Sooner or later the escort turned kept man/boy will end up on the street doing a yard sale of all the Versace his ex lover for life gave him till he got tired or found someone younger.

 

It's risky but if the proper amount of money, stock, car, condominium, etc. is given to the "kept man" or "boy" and he's smart enough to save it, he'll have the memories and some cash at the end of the trip and of course he'll have his freedom back in his hands.

 

I know a similar case that ended with the sugar daddy and his lawyer receiving the former escort at the door of the house after changing the keys. Unfortunately the young guy only got first class trips, dinners, and an amazing lifestyle, few gifts were given go him in exchanging of his company, the sugar daddy had the cars and everything else his "boy" was using under his own name and never gave him a penny, he simply paid for everything: food, trips, lifestyle, nose job, etc.

 

Now the guy is back to escorting, I hope he's saving.

 

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[sincitymix]

You're right!

 

Sooner or later the escort turned kept man/boy will end up on the street doing a yard sale of all the Versace his ex lover for life gave him till he got tired or found someone younger.

 

It's risky but if the proper amount of money, stock, car, condominium, etc. is given to the "kept man" or "boy" and he's smart enough to save it, he'll have the memories and some cash at the end of the trip and of course he'll have his freedom back in his hands.

 

I know a similar case that ended with the sugar daddy and his lawyer receiving the former escort at the door of the house after changing the keys. Unfortunately the young guy only got first class trips, dinners, and an amazing lifestyle, few gifts were given go him in exchanging of his company, the sugar daddy had the cars and everything else his "boy" was using under his own name and never gave him a penny, he simply paid for everything: food, trips, lifestyle, nose job, etc.

 

Now the guy is back to escorting, I hope he's saving.

 

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Or the sugar daddy dies, and the family of the sugar daddy takes back all the gifts and items that were given, and then sues for the cash that was given also.

[instudiocity]

Thanks for the replies...i guess...it is just a matter of finding the right clients if one is willing to deal with the added work of servicing a couple of retainer clients...

And willing to accept the opportunity costs of missing out on the next Sugardaddy who might sweep him up and/or the loss of his sexual freedom of doing anyone he wants whenever he wants.

[bigvalboy]

 

 

 

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lol...if that's the hat the sugar daddy bought him, he might to want go to plan B.

[marylander1940]

Or the sugar daddy dies, and the family of the sugar daddy takes back all the gifts and items that were given, and then sues for the cash that was given also.

 

yes, that happens too.

[marylander1940]

lol...if that's the hat the sugar daddy bought him, he might to want go to plan B.

 

I know... clothing loses value and it's almost impossible to resale.

[Bryanforservice]

Or the sugar daddy dies, and the family of the sugar daddy takes back all the gifts and items that were given, and then sues for the cash that was given also.

 

 

See Sterling v. V. Stiviano

 

Wife of the former owner of the LA Clippers and his former lady friend who recorded him and lead to his public downfall....

 

Why would anyone put all those eggs in one basket. Besides the variety of people is what I LIKE about this line of work!

[rguer]

There's a difference when the guy or gal is only there for the money and perqs.

 

 

I don't know how often guys are there only for the money. If you look somewhere like houseboy.com or gayarrangement.com, you'll see that the boys usually want more than just money - they want a personal connection as well.

 

I hope that everyone who engages in sugar-daddying - from either side - has read all the articles on this site: http://sugardating101.com/

 

And advice from someone who used to post here on how both parties should behave:

[BabyBoomer]

WEHT Marc Dylan?

 

~ Boomer ~

[RockyHardon]

This has been a very good discussion, and all the insights are great. It seems like the biggest drawback for the working boy who can comfortably fit into the big fish situation is that( from each of your experiences) the sugar daddy demands exclusivity, and most guys would prefer their freedom. It seems like the possibility of a guy being on retainer for a couple or three successful guys would not work. Although from my experience very successful guys are busy with work, which would leave time to service one or two other very busy guys. But, I realize most clients want variety, and are comfortable meeting providers through the net these days...so if someone isn't exclusive, just get the hot new boy of the week.

[Racketjock]

I was in such an arrangement many moons ago while in school overseas, lasting for a year and a half. My arrangement involved fun and travel on weekends, dinners, seeing sights, and wonderful intimate times where I learned a great deal, but hopefully made up for in return with youthful zeal. It ended because I came back to the states. I was treated with kindness, respect, and am thankful for Phillipe and all he taught me about life. I have a friend who entered into an arrangement that became a relationship now going on for 25+ years. What started out as an escort/ kept role became something more that works for the both of them. So, I think it possible, but know of now others I have seen since.

[BaronArtz]

But, I realize most clients want variety, and are comfortable meeting providers through the net these days...so if someone isn't exclusive, just get the hot new boy of the week.

 

I like what you wrote, but I respectfully disagree with this statement. Not all clients want variety. When I find an escort I have a true attraction to, I will give him an amazing amount of repeat business. And for several years.

[RockyHardon]

I like what you wrote, but I respectfully disagree with this statement. Not all clients want variety. When I find an escort I have a true attraction to, I will give him an amazing amount of repeat business. And for several years.

 

Upon reflection, I stand corrected as I have had this experience...I guess that is why there are "regulars"...lol

[curiousnomore]

I have a retainer client...my wife!!! The most overpriced piece of ass ever. (assume humor here)

[thickornotatall]

I like what you wrote, but I respectfully disagree with this statement. Not all clients want variety. When I find an escort I have a true attraction to, I will give him an amazing amount of repeat business. And for several years.

I absolutely agree....I met a perfect match in 2001....and saw him repeatedly until he retired....day meetings...overnights....vacations...and never thought of seeing anyone else....I am a loyal person by nature....he fit all my needs.....at that time I was and still am in the same LTR...with a former escort that I semi settled in with...monogamy to a point....just can't help myself....

I have a retainer client...my wife!!! The most overpriced piece of ass ever. (assume humor here)

[+ FreshFluff]

I have a retainer client...my wife!!! The most overpriced piece of ass ever. (assume humor here)

 

I think you were the retainer client, curiousnomore!

[curiousnomore]

I stand corrected, sir. LOL!!!

[curiousnomore]

BTW, FreshFluff, I didn't know I was into bondage until now.

[+ poolboy48220]

I like what you wrote, but I respectfully disagree with this statement. Not all clients want variety. When I find an escort I have a true attraction to, I will give him an amazing amount of repeat business. And for several years.

I'll add my vote to this. I've had a few guys I met through agencies back in the day, they fit my tastes perfectly. I didn't see anyone else but them as long as they stayed working.

[Michael Wayne]

excellent thread! I was lucky enough to have ONE CLIENT for 7 years. The relationship began with him flying me in for a week or a weekend to one of his many places (very discreetly!!!) and then to a retainer situation (sugar daddy/kept man.) What was unusual in my case was that he decided to leave his wife for me. That led to a real boyfriend/lover situation and I was then cleared to join his business. His ex wife and I became good friends and his kids gradually accepted me. The one scenario that was not mentioned in the thread is what happens when your rich daddy goes totally BROKE??? That is what happened to us. That is why I got back into the escort biz after retiring for him. I did it with his permission and blessing. He even actually joined me on numerous 3 way appointments when the client wanted me and an older guy. My Daddy was hot! The trouble ultimately was his jealousy. He thought he could handle it but it drove him crazy. He told me once a story which was the only way I could understand the pain of going broke. he said that his losing his money would be like if I started having ED issues and lost the use of my penis. Sadly, all the stress of his finances led directly to the massive heart attacks that killed him in 2012 as a man of only 58. @ www.rentmen.com/mikeyusatop

[BaronArtz]

I must say, Mikey, that your post made me think. As a client, I started seeing a new escort 8 months ago. The appointments grew from twice a week, to 5-6 times a week, for multiple hour appointments each time. I knew he was looking for a sugar daddy but I could not see myself in that role. He has retired as an escort. I am now paying for 1/2 his rent and still see him 5-6 times a week. I helped him get a great job at a high profile gym. I feel I gradually became his sugar daddy without making that decision. I know he occasionally sees a former client and, surprisingly, it gives me feelings of real jealousy - feelings that are real but cannot rationally explain. He is a great looking guy, and the women are just all over him. He has a string of very short-term flings with various women but never a real relationship with them. Somehow, that aspect of him doesn't stress me as much. How do you deal with the jealousy though?

 

I always though that sugar daddy relationships don't work over time because (a) the 'daddy' has in the back of his mind that the 'son' mainly does it for the money and (b) the 'son' always fears that 'daddy' will cut the strings at some point. Yet here I am