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It is very sad... I always wonder what causes someone to do this... but certainly they feel there is no other way out of what ever is causing such pain.
Perhaps as disturbing as the suicide of this young man is the number of other performers who were listed as deceased with the videos they made still on line. The mentions at least 5 and all of them quite young and several of them known quite well on this board.

The one positive note in a bleak article was the family and his personal donation of organs.

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a friend of mine killed himself recently....this dude had a PhD, was fit and active, and had a bunch of friends....health concerns prevented him from doing what he most loved to do outdoors....

 

one article link suggests people "Clay" knew were teasing him about the gay videos he did....don't know if the workplace argument was about this concern, but the desperation he felt after being fired must have been awful....as PK says, the organ donations and the evident love from his family are good things to keep in mind.....

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I'm left with a slightly different take on the family. This story is incredibly sad and violent ---both homicidal and suicidal (5 shots fired off before he destroyed himself), indicating incredible incindiary internal and external conflicts. Now, take a teen-aged boy from an uber-jesus-lovin' family (not generally known for liking the gays!), AND he's persuing a bareback gay-porn career?..... Inter-/outer personal conflicts in spades. The family's speech, in death, sounds sweet enough, but I'd hate to know what they said to his face while he was alive.

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I agree with Ares about the family. I've known lots of people from the kinds of families that talk about THEIR deity (who is definitely and distinctly different from mine) with the fervor that his family did in a statement that was ostensibly about their son. First of all, the homophobia inherent in 98% of those families is often toxic enough to drive people away from home - and/or impel them to act out - at a very early age. Second, they have a habit of never making public statements about things their worldview doesn't encompass. Third, they are the most likely to try to force their kids to subject themselves to "pray the gay away" charlatans. Fourth, when they do make public statements about their sons, they always make most of the statement about their religion.

 

I agree that his signing up for organ donation was a generous thing to do.

 

What kind of treatment he got form his family is very much open to question. There are certainly exceptions from the stereotypes about extremely homophobic ultra-religious fundamentalist evangelicals ... and I have never met anyone who came form that kind of exceptional family. And therapists I know have all worked with scores of kids with parents like that who have attempted suicide, and who - if they survive (some attempt suicide after beginning REAL (as opposed to "reparative" therapy - the intensity of their internalized homophobia usually leaves them as emotional basket cases.

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Its unfortunate this young man took his own life. It was completely inappropriate/unacceptable/outrageous/reckless for him to have driven by the restaurant while firing his gun at it and thankfully he didn't injure or kill someone. His behavior doesn't mean he shouldn't be walking around today but it does mean he should be walking around a jail cell. People with guns need to be taught that because society lets them have one (for now anyway) they don't get to act out like a**holes. I don't like people who go on and on about their religion and deity (including hardly being able to have a conversation with injecting their religion throughout it) and too often I've observed that these folks are not at all living a life their God would approve of. They too often are intolerant and don't conduct business or personal affairs in a Christ like manner (substitute another deity if desired). For all the proselytizing of the parents, the son didn't get something in his upbringing that would allow him to handle disputes in an acceptable way. Some people are barely loyal to the teachings of their God on the one day a week (or daily moments) of worship their religion provides. Focus on being a good person everyday. I have a couple of people in my family that are so intolerant as well as being unsympathetic towards the poor (yet go to worship weekly) that I truly worry about their judgment day (but have accepted I can't change them and I wasn't put on this Earth with a mission to do so).

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I've continued to be haunted by this story. I've no control over this threads' direction, but truly hope it doesnt spiral into anger and negativity; my main thoughts are those of immense empathy and sadness for this young man and others. It's also brought up more questions than answers in my mind; I realize there ARE no easy answers, but appreciate a place to just share them. Because this guy was only 18, I'm tempted to gently place this in the gay-teen-suicide category, rather than simply (or rather, NOT so simply), adult-performer-with-mental-health-issues ranks, tho surely there's overlap, and I share immense pain and empathy for both camps. I have friends who suffer horribly w mental health issues, it's just that some turn their demons outwards while many turn them inward. I feel special pain for those who keep them inwards, under wraps (perhaps Arpad Miklos) bc they too often fall between the cracks. I know nothing about Clay's life, but wonder if this was the 1st sign of an outward-display of pain, and how long HE kept it under wraps. And I don't want to beat up on the family, but find it sadly ironic that one of the 1st attributes the mother publicly lauds her son with is his facility with guns. This story also makes me wonder.... I don't think anyone turns 18 and overnight decides to do porn. I wonder how many years this was ruminating (just an ancillary question, i've absolutely nothing against adult performers.) And it makes me think about how parts of the brain responsible for decision-making and impulse-control aren't fully developed until age 21-22. So like I said, more questions than answers. Just feeling great sadness for those suffering and feel they've nowhere to turn. Also aware that many FEEL they have nowhere to turn, and it's important to validate those feelings; whether those feelings are facts is an entirely different question that needs to be addressed, but seperately.

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