"Need Extra Cash" is a Turnoff

[jgoo]

Does anyone see anything remotely appealing about an ad that states something like the following as part of the text? I see it often enough that it has become annoying to me (and I see it on Rentboy, not just Backpage or similar sites).

 

"I need to make some extra cash and figured why not give this a shot. I am new to this but also very open minded"

 

In my mind, it is just an automatic pass and can't figure out why an escort would go about stating this in his ad. No matter how hot his pics may be or how attractive his prices are, for me it is an automatic turn off and pass.

 

I suppose it is a rookie mistake and I should be a bit more forgiving but so far I haven't taken the chance. Thanks for listening to my pet peeve of the day

[Kevin Slater]

I agree. It doesn't strike me as great branding to throw the mercantile into the customer's face.

 

Kevin Slater

[bostonman]

I think sometimes it can be fine, if I get the sense that the escort is doing something he thinks will be fun for him in order to get the extra cash.

 

A few years ago, I met with a college student (I think his ad was on Hourboy if I recall correctly). He was a sweet guy, intelligent, attractive, very "boy next door" in looks and attitude, and seemed to be emotionally stable. He wasn't a skilled escort, but the time with him was still enjoyable and sexy. I don't think the "extra cash" disclaimer was in his ad, but I think in talking to him (popping the always interesting question "what got you interested in being an escort?") he said that he thought it would be a fun way to make some extra money while in school. I thought that was totally valid.

 

A few months ago, I was browsing ads (again, coincidentally, I think it was Hourboy) and saw an ad from a student type that interested me. Though his ad, he seemed a little edgy but ok - his ad was a little slight on detail but hoped I could find out more about him through talking/emails. Well, once he opens up he starts telling me all this stuff about how he's just been fired from his umpteenth job, he didn't have an apartment and was sleeping on a friend's couch, etc - and he really needed the extra cash. In THAT circumstance, for me, the conversation was over. Besides the fact that I didn't sense he had any joy in the idea of sex as a career-oriented service, and that he was doing this because it seemed to be a desperate way to earn a buck rather than anything else, I also didn't feel comfortable knowing that his life was in such a shambles.

 

So, for me (and of course your mileage may vary), if "needing extra cash" comes from someone who wants to try this sort of thing out on a lark, having thought it through clearly, with a sense of fun/joy/intrigue/experimentation in the mix, that's one thing. If he's clearly soliciting only out of desperation, and it's going to feel more like sleeping with a panhandler - no thanks.

[jimboivyo]

desperation is never attractive on anyone

 

do you really think that most escorts do this because they think its fun? some guys are truly great escorts and those are the ones I believe really enjoy it, but most are in it for a quick buck and nothing more

[Tonyko]

SOME think it's a turn-on. "Hey guys here I am a str8 boy the one you see at the gym or at Starbucks with his GF 6mos ago would never think of doing this but now I HAVE to so here I am grab me while it lasts cause I'll probably never do this again....." etc etc. I'm sure that's how some new scorts see it and how some CLIENTS see it too.

[BgMstr4u]

So who doesn't need a little extra cash? Basically almost everyone. Saying you need money does NOT make you special. Quite the reverse. That come on puts your proposition in panhandler territory. Like I'm supposed to be your enabler. The question is not what you need but what you have that I might want. Look sharp, smile, give the world that extra special something, make a guy happy, and the cash will come.

[bostonman]

do you really think that most escorts do this because they think its fun?

 

Do we really think a lot of people work at any job because they think it's fun? Notwithstanding, especially in terms of any job where you're selling something or providing services to someone, those people that, at very least, make you feel like they DO love what they do, are the ones that will be the most successful. Imagine going to a doctor who says he'll only treat you because he really needs the extra money, or a lawyer who tells you how down on his luck he is and how much he needs this case, rather than to give the impression that he's sympathetic to your plight and wants to offer his expertise to help you, etc. Those may be extreme examples, but on some level, a job is a job is a job.

 

On the other hand, you might find someone working an extra part-time job not only so they can bring in more money, but also because they really like the experience the job gives them (for instance, that same law firm might have students working paid internships who are truly interested in the field, etc) - and if those people are truly eager about their work, we appreciate their time even more.

 

And yes, Tonyko makes a good point too - some people surely ARE attracted to the more edgy, "hustler" kind of experience. And for me, that might translate to a fun fantasy to play out with a young escort - the str8 boy who's willing to go out on a limb this once, or me making an offer a susceptible lad might not be able to refuse, lol. But that would be part of a consensual game based on a love for fantasy play, which is a little different.

[+ azdr0710]

when I do see this phrase in an ad, I often pass it off as silly text that may or may not be true....doesn't really affect my decision one way or the other.....

 

but I do agree with Tonyko and bostonman's last paragraph.....the "straight guy"/hustler/edgy aspect is appealing to me

[MichiganMan]

That phrase and "I still have a few appointment slots left" on my two day trip to *****....to me that reads "pick a time and get in line"...but then again it might just be me!!

[+ WilliamM]

I did not answer an ad ---- met him in a gay bar. So that's a huge, huge difference. I liked him right away. He needed tuition for fall semester at Hofstra University. By no means was it all wonderful; he wanted me to lend him money. I was slightly glad when the summer ended. But, I am happy I took a chance. And I did not lend him the money.

[bostonman]

That phrase and "I still have a few appointment slots left" on my two day trip to *****....to me that reads "pick a time and get in line"...but then again it might just be me!!

 

...which, to bring up a slightly different topic, is why I don't tend to look so much at travelling escorts doing a short stay in my city - I feel (perhaps sometimes wrongly, but so it goes) that I'm just going to get squeezed in with a lot of other clients in that short few days, which doesn't feel right to me. I'd most often rather meet someone whose schedule is a bit more flexible and relaxed.

[RSully94]

The escorts that are desperate for cash are the ones that will cheat you out of your money, at least from my experience. This one guy didn't explicitly state it, but he mentioned that he needed money for rent and his apartment and what not. I made the mistake of paying him with Paypal, but he was a noob at it so he wouldn't have gotten the cash instantly. He basically cheated me out of a $80 just to get his ass out of my city or he would be stranded. He said he would pay me back and he hasn't. So basically, I haven't hired him since.

[jimboivyo]

Do we really think a lot of people work at any job because they think it's fun? Notwithstanding, especially in terms of any job where you're selling something or providing services to someone, those people that, at very least, make you feel like they DO love what they do, are the ones that will be the most successful. Imagine going to a doctor who says he'll only treat you because he really needs the extra money, or a lawyer who tells you how down on his luck he is and how much he needs this case, rather than to give the impression that he's sympathetic to your plight and wants to offer his expertise to help you, etc. Those may be extreme examples, but on some level, a job is a job is a job.

 

On the other hand, you might find someone working an extra part-time job not only so they can bring in more money, but also because they really like the experience the job gives them (for instance, that same law firm might have students working paid internships who are truly interested in the field, etc) - and if those people are truly eager about their work, we appreciate their time even more.

 

And yes, Tonyko makes a good point too - some people surely ARE attracted to the more edgy, "hustler" kind of experience. And for me, that might translate to a fun fantasy to play out with a young escort - the str8 boy who's willing to go out on a limb this once, or me making an offer a susceptible lad might not be able to refuse, lol. But that would be part of a consensual game based on a love for fantasy play, which is a little different.

 

 

a good reply. I see where you're coming from

[+ poolboy48220]

Try that in a job interview. "Why are you interested in this job?" An answer of "I need the money" is not going to get you hired.

[bostonman]

Try that in a job interview. "Why are you interested in this job?" An answer of "I need the money" is not going to get you hired.

 

Right. No one is foolish enough to think that isn't the case - we all need to earn money. But you at least have to sound like you're wanting that particular job because you'd be eager to do the work.

 

Working in theatre as I do, the difficulties in auditioning (which is, of course, the actor's equivalent of a job interview) often come up. One may be more emotionally invested in auditioning for a role they particularly want, but even in just auditioning for anything for the sake of getting the job, you want to come off as the kind of actor that will be easy to work with and who will invest himself in whatever role he is offered. (The plot of A Chorus Line is based on that premise - all of that eager "god, I hope I get it" etc is, after all, all about just getting an anonymous, unglamorous spot in the chorus. Just getting the job. So why does the director spend so much time getting to know all of them personally throughout the course of the show, instead of just finding out who can dance the best? Clearly he wants the best-suited people for the job, not just the best dancers.)

[Despardo]

Saw an ad recently with the headline, "Desperate For Cash!" Not a way to market oneself. The "need cash" approach might appeal to clients who get turned on by "seducing" an amateur, I suppose. I find that true amateurs are best avoided--typically one gets stiffed, let down, ripped off or worse. Occasionally, the guy is genuinely clueless and will be perfectly happy to move in with you if you let him. Then you are saddled with him and its all downhill from there. Been there, done that, never again. If you do get turned on by "amateurs" it would be better to hire a professional with an amateur persona ("I' m just a poor little waif who needs a daddy to protect me.") Actual waifs are a pain to deal with. Ditto macho straight types unless they are pros. Best to deal with guys who understand the territory and know how to take care of you and themselves as well.

[instudiocity]

Meh! It's just another data point in reviewing ads. Doesn't turn me off, doesn't turn me on, doesn't make me compassionate for his situation.

 

Does tell me he doesn't see himself as a professional.

[+ Gar1eth]

Meh! It's just another data point in reviewing ads. Doesn't turn me off, doesn't turn me on, doesn't make me compassionate for his situation.

 

Does tell me he doesn't see himself as a professional.

 

I'm wondering if in some cases that's the strategy-to not be a professional with the mindset-"I'll market myself as a fresh-faced never done this before non-jaded, non-professional"?

 

Gman

[Tonyko]

when I do see this phrase in an ad, I often pass it off as silly text that may or may not be true....doesn't really affect my decision one way or the other.....

but I do agree with Tonyko and bostonman's last paragraph.....the "straight guy"/hustler/edgy aspect is appealing to me

 

Yah me too lol re appealing :-) EVEN THOU I KNOW 90% OF THE TIME IT'S BS LOL. I DID however luck out n find the real deal twice. One boy here NYC had a RB AD literally a MONTH n that was it. GF threw him out, went away for a few wks and told him be gone when she got back etc (we met in her apt, DEF a girls apt lol, he needed cash for a first and last for his own place) Month later his AD was gone n never re-appeared, BUT I kept in touch. That was SEVEN years ago and a few times a year, IF I catch him when he could use some xtra cash lol, I still get to chow down on perfect little str8 muscleboy dick :-) *Re little Yah he's only like 5'7 with a killer gym bod, I've offered thru the years to hook him up w other guys who hire but he's always refused, got a white collar job now. So HE was genuine I feel safe saying.

The other was a starving 2oyo actor boy in LA w no car and no money. NEVER had an Ad, met in the old AOL "Companions" chatroom remember those lol?? Took MANY tries to convince him to follow thru he got cold feet the first few times we'd set a date. Started hiring him regularly, same thing, offered to get him more clients, he refused. Helped him financially many times sans anything in return, MY choice, he was eternally grateful. That was FIFTEEN YEARS AGO he's now a working actor I see him on many hour drama shows, lives with a woman has for many years, and AGAIN, a few times a year he'll come over and feed me huge str8guy dick (he's one of those guys on the skinny side but with a HUGE dick) because he remembers my generousity, no $$ exchanged of course, I'll just take him to a nice dinner.

So TWICE the "line" turned out to be true lol. (the exception not the rule, I know that :-)

[+ Axiom2001]

When I've read an ad which has this language, I've skipped, for the guy perhaps would NOT provide the type of play and interactivity that I require in making this meeting an acceptable one!

[+ goosh69]

What is more strange is when you see they are running a sale or a special.

[Despardo]

Saw an ad this week for a really macho Italian who also advertises as a masseur and has been for some years now. His Rentboy ad states in the first sentence that he is low on cash and doesn't do this kind of thing often. Then follows a highly professional ad. I thought that in this case it was cute since it was so OBVIOUSLY a marketing ploy--straight retired soccer player available for you! Limited time offer. I have no problem with that kind of thing, in other words when the object is to make the escort seem hotter and to create urgency. That is just creative advertising. The ones that are really desperate are best avoided. This guy is most certainly an experienced pro and there is not much wrong with that.

 

http://www.rentboy.com/Listing.aspx?lid=396820&scid=151377356&sp=1&pos=7&locid=1686&iid=477687&type=escort

[+ Gar1eth]

Saw an ad this week for a really macho Italian who also advertises as a masseur and has been for some years now. His Rentboy ad states in the first sentence that he is low on cash and doesn't do this kind of thing often. Then follows a highly professional ad. I thought that in this case it was cute since it was so OBVIOUSLY a marketing ploy--straight retired soccer player available for you! Limited time offer. I have no problem with that kind of thing, in other words when the object is to make the escort seem hotter and to create urgency. That is just creative advertising. The ones that are really desperate are best avoided. This guy is most certainly an experienced pro and there is not much wrong with that.

 

http://www.rentboy.com/Listing.aspx?lid=396820&scid=151377356&sp=1&pos=7&locid=1686&iid=477687&type=escort

The ad annoys me. For one thing, he's been advertising for years. For another he hasn't changed his pictures in years. And probably most of all what annoys me is the 'macho' language in the ad. I'm not really dominant, but I'm not particularly submissive either. While if his pictures are accurate, he obviously has an incredible physique which I am attracted to, but I have no interest at all in being with a 'real man' or being humiliated. It seems to me 'real men' shouldn't have to try so hard.

 

It seems to me that this guy seems to often be in the same city as Pietro. I wonder if they are partners. I'm not sure either one of them has reviews.

 

http://www.rentboy.com/Listing.aspx?lid=949648&iid=511685&scid=151402618&sp=1&pos=3&locid=1686&type=escort

 

Gman

[adriano46]

Like many here, my instinct is to quickly pass over or move on from any ad where the advertiser makes mention of the need for quick cash. For me, those kinds of ads translate as, "I will lay there and let you do me (with a lot of provisos, "I tell you what I like or don't like in being serviced, and treat you like the a$$hole I think you are...because I am only doing this for the cash and I generally don't do this."). My minimal expectations in the encounter are generally ignored (kissing, some affection - feigned or real, mutual oral). I might as well go to his door, hand him the money, and walk back home and service myself because it probably will be a better job!!!! :-)

 

Back in the day I liked to cruise hustlers around the Port Authority in NYC and enjoyed both the thrill of the chase and the rate of successful GOOD hook-ups, with a lower payment expected and no extra monetary concerns. I met some great-looking edgy guys, various ethnic backgrounds, all who seemingly were doing this for the money for rent, for school (one very hot Turkish student from NYU... memorable), one told me up front he needed money for his child, and yes... for drugs or alcohol... This last part was the reason I stopped doing this (not wanting to be the enabler - well, that and the clean up and clearing out of hustlers from that old locale).

 

I now avoid those in need of a quick injection for money because I know how I sometimes react to such stories, giving them more money than they asked for up front, and (out of guilt??) paying them extra for no service at all later on. And on those occasions when this happens, looking back, the sex was terrible. Best solution is don't put myself in the situation. Same for the superstar escorts or others who fly in to a city for a few days and start texting and messaging you to "get in line" to see them... bring me visions of a revolving hotel room door. Being an older gentleman, the days of "Slam, Bam, thank ya ma'am!" are long over. I prefer a more gentle approach - generally 90 minutes minimum or two hours for the first meeting, perhaps a cup of coffee or glass of wine, or a dinner, and then the main show. Such an encounter is often not taken up by the guy passing through who is trying to fill up his time clock a.s.a.p.

 

One last point - on this last part. Traveling escorts generally send out an ad some weeks in advance (to see who is interested). I have a career that often has me on the road, or tied down with extra work or obligations. When I see someone visiting 4 or 5 weeks out, I may be interested but it is too far in advance to commit (and truth be told, most of them are not into scheduling appointments that far out). Then the guy is in town, sending texts and e-mails (and occasionally calling!), asking when are we meeting. I get nasty responses when I inform them that I never committed to a date, was interested some weeks back but now am not available. This is the problem in dealing with the out-of-towners.

[Guest RexB]

Saw an ad this week for a really macho Italian who also advertises as a masseur and has been for some years now. His Rentboy ad states in the first sentence that he is low on cash and doesn't do this kind of thing often. Then follows a highly professional ad. I thought that in this case it was cute since it was so OBVIOUSLY a marketing ploy--straight retired soccer player available for you! Limited time offer. I have no problem with that kind of thing, in other words when the object is to make the escort seem hotter and to create urgency. That is just creative advertising. The ones that are really desperate are best avoided. This guy is most certainly an experienced pro and there is not much wrong with that.

 

http://www.rentboy.com/Listing.aspx?lid=396820&scid=151377356&sp=1&pos=7&locid=1686&iid=477687&type=escort

 

I saw this "real man" once, here in NYC. At the time he had a pic in a gladiator outfit up and the guy in it looked really hot. My imagination went wild so I asked him if he could wear it if we met but he said he didn't have it anymore. I accepted that and hired him anyway, imagining I'd have my hot gladiator out of his uniform.

It was the only time I left after 5 minutes---but I should have left after 2. My vivid imagination, along with his old pics had betrayed me big time. He hasn't changed those pics in probably 20 years. At the moment I saw him my first impulse was to turn and run, and I wish I had. I told myself that maybe I could get into something with him, but I positively could not.