Porn. Professionally good for an escort or bad? Would you/do you hire porn stars?

[Tylerluv]

To escorts: Have you done porn? How much? Has it helped or hurt your escorting business? How has it changed your life if at all?

 

To clients: Have you hired guys who have been in porn? Would you hire someone who has been in porn? How about someone who just has a few videos on xtube or something? Wouldn't it be good to see them in action at least a little bit? Exposition welcome.

[Diverdan]

Your Rentboy ad is not available at the moment. As a client, I have hired guys who have been in porn. Also stopped seeing some escorts after they started doing bareback porn. Most xtube videos are not very good, unless you have someone shoot them for you, IMHO.

[down_to_business]

...To clients: Have you hired guys who have been in porn? Would you hire someone who has been in porn? How about someone who just has a few videos on xtube or something? Wouldn't it be good to see them in action at least a little bit? Exposition welcome.

 

Opinions will vary. This is just my opinion on the subject. It is a neutral to slight negative. That being said I have seen a few escorts that have done porn and the results were mixed.

 

I wouldn't not hire someone just because they appeared in porn, but I wouldn't seek someone out just because they did either. For me, if I am with an escort I prefer that the person I am with is not recognized and being in porn can increase the risk of this happening. I also have no interest in paying a porn "premium" as some porn actors think they deserve more just because they appeared in porn.

 

Good luck with your decision. My advice would be to do what's best for you.

[SteveEscort]

Unless you're quite happy to be identified for the rest of your life (remember in 10 years time things might be different) you need to be 100 percent sure about what you're getting into. I've been offered porn and I've turned it down. It's not for me. I'm am quite happy being an anonymous escort who can at any stage move on without something lurking on the internet completely identifying who I was..... Plus.... There's no money in it anymore. Fast buck for exposure you can't turn back the clock on.

[Steven_Draker]

Two threads of interest:

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?87626-Should-a-newbie-escort-first-or-do-porn-first

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?70104-Porn-vs-Escorting

[Daverwr]

I've hired some porn actors. Usually, because I've had a crush on him. Not the best reason to hire a specific escort! And, I do like to know what I'm getting. But, I don't think it warrants exorbitant pricing.

[jawjateck]

I have hired some guys before they began porn, some during their video career, and some after they moved on from it. It has no bearing on my hiring decision, unless the videos depict acts that are not consistent with my safety practices. My primary concern is sensual compatibility. Years ago, reputation mattered, but since I hire numerous new, unreviewed escorts, I can't rely on reputation.

[bigvalboy]

Yes I have hired guys who are/were in porn, but the fact that they had done porn, did not have a bearing on my decision to hire them. I hired based on many factors, obviously there has to be the physical attraction, but more to do with personality and chemistry. The same would go for someone who had done xtube videos as well. I never felt seeing them in action would make a difference.

 

I will say that on a couple of occasions when I hired a porn star, and we connected on a very personal level, I was unable to enjoy their videos after having hired them, I looked at them as friends, and the fantasy was gone. Not always, but it has happened.

[HoseMaster]

To escorts: Have you done porn? How much? Has it helped or hurt your escorting business? How has it changed your life if at all?

 

To clients: Have you hired guys who have been in porn? Would you hire someone who has been in porn? How about someone who just has a few videos on xtube or something? Wouldn't it be good to see them in action at least a little bit? Exposition welcome.

 

I have hired at least 3 porn stars over the last several years.

 

One of them stated that porn was like "free-advertising" for him, and has helped his escorting career prosper. If you look at it this way, there are actors--such as Ryan Phillippe or Mark Wahlberg--I'd hire in a heartbeat if they were available for hire just to see what they were like in bed just because of how they looked half-naked on the big screen! LOL

 

One was a European porn star I'd had a thing for at the time, and he was okay--robotic, and mostly going through the motions--but it fulfilled a fantasy.

 

One was a major porn star that doesn't advertise as an escort due to contract clauses with the porn company, but someone I had met through another escort. Unfortunately, my experience with him was lackluster. He wanted the most money of any escort I've hired before, but was not worth it. He usually turned me on in his scenes, but when it came down to actually having sex with him, he seemed to just go through the motions, and not have the intimacy most of the better escorts can deliver. I usually like the escort to take charge, and we didn't even have sex the first night as he was tired, or something like that. Although he may do well initially if he ever does advertise, I don't believe he may not keep long-hiring clients very long. Sex is one thing, but conversation, tending to your clients needs, and the intimacy is what (in my eyes) keeps them coming back.

 

To sum it all up, I wouldn't judge someone based on if they were in porn or not. I'll try anything once. If they're good, I'll hire them again.

[TruHart1]

Porn Actor Escorts?

 

To escorts: Have you done porn? How much? Has it helped or hurt your escorting business? How has it changed your life if at all?

 

To clients: Have you hired guys who have been in porn? Would you hire someone who has been in porn? How about someone who just has a few videos on xtube or something? Wouldn't it be good to see them in action at least a little bit? Exposition welcome.

 

I only hire escorts who can be vetted by having great reviews on Daddy's and/or have been discussed positively on the forum. I have watched some porn actors' vids before hiring but I do not believe what they excel at in their video work necessarily carries into their escorting. I have hired one porn star-escort (who shall remain nameless) that was just so-so. I have also hired nine phenomenal escorts who have done/do porn: Zeb Atlas, Derek Atlas, Dario Ventura, StefanoXXL (porn name Marco Rochelle), Apollo Phoenix, Devon Hunter, Luke Milan, Tristan Baldwin and Andrew Justice. Quite a few guys who lived up to their performances on video and even exceeded those performances since they were treating me as the sole object of their attentions during our appointments!!!

 

I've also hired many, many non-porn star escorts who were super excellent at giving me exactly what I want. I don't think the porn star label really means all that much in terms of quality of escort. If I check out any escort, porn star or non-, and feel like they will be a good fit for me from their reviews or word-of-mouth then them being in porn does not matter to me.

 

TruHart1

[+ poolboy48220]

I've hired 10 or 12 porn star escorts. Apart from one or two, I've had a great time with them, some were multiple hires. Definitely a plus for me.

[adriano46]

As a client, I am another who has hired (both wittingly and Unwittingly) porn stars in the past. Like some others above, I like to know what I am hiring and what (ideally) he would be like for an hour or more. I try to also hear the voice and see if I can pick up some character traits, although my experience is that often the persona on the screen is far far away from the real person you meet face to face (often for good, sometimes for bad).

 

Inasmuch as I began hiring in Europe, my primary focus was on guys from Central-Eastern Europe (Czech Republic, Slovakia, Rumania, Hungary and Russia) and many of them also had prodigious careers in porn on the European market although a few also had a wide distribution of films here in the US. For most of these hires, they were good to excellent; a few in particular became (and remain to this day) personal friends even if they have hung up their jocks and retired from the film industry.

 

I remember a guy I hired in London for an overnight -- one of the hottest encounters I ever had (and reasonably priced) only to discover a few months later he was the porn actor Steve Masters! As for the Hungarians: well there were George Vidanov, Mad Stefano, Mario McCabe, Rick Bauer, Enrico Belagio (though I never got to meet his older and hairier brother, Renato -- and yes, they are brothers). From Greece via Amsterdam and France was Kyper.

 

In the US I have another group I have hired and who are in and out of porn (some still in): Valentin Petrov, Matt Hyland, Steven Ponce, Allen Silver, Karsin Knightly, Antton Harri, Michael Vincenzo, and Michael Bender.

 

I have been very fortunately that in 90-95% of such encounters their career had no negative impact whatsoever in my hiring nor in the experience. I learned long ago that if one treats another with respect, that respect is often nicely reciprocated. They may know I hired them because of their film career, but I only discuss that -- IF and only if they bring it up; otherwise I understand that on the screen is a persona, and in front of me is a real person. I have to add one point -- in all the names I mentioned, none were ever (in my presence) on drugs and only a few imbibed a bit in alcohol (e.g. a glass of wine), and none ever smoked in my presence; ALL were/are neat, clean, cultured, handsome and true BFE guys in a very classy way.

[BaronArtz]

I don't actively screen potential hires based on whether or not they have done porn. I go for hires that have a physical appeal to me, a perception of a decent personality and satisfactory reviews or recommendations of posters on this forum. Sometimes, it does happen that a guy I am attracted to has acted in a porn movie. If so, I look at a few video clips of their porn movies, as part of my pre-hire research. Sadly, in most cases, those video clips are disappointing - I am seeing a physical attribute that displeases me (a bad ass, a waist line softer than I like, an unpleasing voice and, frankly, a scene that grosses me out). Long story short: actors in porn movies usually turn me OFF as potential hires.

 

In the rare cases that I did proceed, I found sex with porn actors very mechanical, scripted and expensive.

 

And then there is the case of 'Junior Stellano'. A hot guy, exactly my type, hot porn work ... perfection in other words. When contacted about fees - one needs to ask this question after all - he said: $300 an hour, but most of my repeat clients pay me a multiple of that as a tip. I did not hire Mr. Stellano.

[corndog]

A while back, an escort was on my radar, and he put a video on xtube with another escort. It was a very nicely done amateur-quality video of a very hot, passionate, slightly rough and very verbal scene. I have to say that the video was quite good, and both guys seemed genuinely into it. However, my fantasy with this escort was a gentle, loving, sensual bfe kind of scene, and watching this video basically burst my bubble. Its entirely possible that the escort could have done what I wanted, but after watching that scene, and seeing his enthusiasm and pleasure, I felt like I could never live up to that kind of action.

 

Rationally, I know that the video shouldn't have had this effect on me, but, whether I like it or not, it ruined my fantasy.

 

So, my advice to the original poster is: be careful. Doing porn, or even clips on xtube, could change the way your potential clients look at you, so you need to be very selective about what you depict.

[Steven_Draker]

Along with the consequences every porn actor has to face that have already been mentioned above, one has to consider another pitfall: bareback porn

 

THE TOP 10 MAINSTREAM GAY PORN STARS WHO WENT BAREBACK

 

Bareback is the new black.

 

Treasure Island Media, once an industry pariah (and proud of it, thank you very much), is now attracting mainstream gay porn stars like Colby Keller, Dean Monroe, and Derek Parker. Dark Alley and SX Video have been major players in the bareback genre as well, snagging top talent like Mason Wyler and Josh Weston. Over the past few years, major mainstream studios like Sean Cody and Corbin Fisher have converted to producing bareback content regularly. And just in the past three months, amateur sites like Broke Straight Boys and College Dudes have jumped on the trend, too.

 

In short, a lot of people are having bareback sex. You’re probably having bareback sex right now, aren’t you? No condoms, no regrets, and creampies by the dozen. Bareback bareback bareback.

 

Why are more and more studios doing it? Money. How long will the trend last? As long as people are willing to pay. (And as long as the media continue to not effectively scare people with the threat of dying from HIV; something they used to do quite well in the 1980′s and 90′s before pharmaceutical companies—who spend money on advertisements with the same media—started producing drugs that made HIV manageable, if not still fucking miserable.)

 

Despite the hyperbolic headlines you might read on this site, a gay porn star doing bareback porn now isn’t really news anymore, but up until a couple years ago, it was cause for major controversy. Here is a look back at the 10 biggest gay porn stars to have crossed over from all-condom porn to no-condom-at-all porn.

 

 

 

10. Rafael Carerras: Most recently seen on Raw Fuck Club.

 

9. Nick Moretti: The tattooed daddy is a favorite on Bareback That Hole.

 

8. Jason Tyler: Falcon’s all-American jock turned SX Video’s all-American cum dumpster.

 

7. Johnny Hanson: The donkey-dicked legend came out of retirement briefly in 2007 to dip his donkey dick in a raw hole for SX Video.

 

6. Antonio Biaggi: On pretty much every bareback site there is, but still has time to speak out against doing cocaine in public.

 

5. Ethan Wolfe: From Hot House superstar to Treasure Island exclusive with a bio hazard tattoo and a fake(?) Twitter account.

 

4. Mason Wyler: After a blogger outed his HIV-positive status and sent him into retirement, Mason briefly returned to porn for a handful of scenes, but ultimately decided the bareback life wasn’t for him. (On camera, at least.)

 

3. Nelson Troy: Deceased.

 

2. Jeff Palmer: Former Falcon exclusive turned Hot Desert Knights star turned AIDS conspiracy theorist. Where is he now? I don’t know (and most likely, neither does he), but here’s his website.

 

1. Josh Weston: Deceased.

 

 

source: http://thesword.com/the-top-10-maintstream-gay-porn-stars-who-went-bareback.html

[Nvr2Thick]

To clients: Have you hired guys who have been in porn? Would you hire someone who has been in porn? How about someone who just has a few videos on xtube or something? Wouldn't it be good to see them in action at least a little bit? Exposition welcome.

 

Escorts I've hired because their porn performances reinforced their look, their prowess, their attitudes: Arpad Miklos, Austin Black

 

Escorts I've avoided because their porn performance exposed attributes that were turn-offs (versatility, lack of masculinity, wood problems...): way too many to list

 

Escort I've hired in spite of bland performances: Daddy Marco Martinelli (turned out to be a terrific time, but not what I expected)

 

 

I don't see a lot of condoms on Xtube.

[tom1980]

I like to hire guys who have been in porn because the videos often reveal information that helps me decide whether I think the escort and I are a good match. I know video performance does not equate to real life performance, but videos still reveal something about the guy's personality and ability to perform. Sometimes watching a video has convinced me to hire someone I wouldn't have hired otherwise. Sometimes the opposite happens. From a client's perspective, I think more information is better. From the escort's perspective, that should be true as well (although I know there are other factors you have to consider).

[Damascene]

There are good "porn star" escorts, lackluster one and bad ones. It is just like the rest of the escort world. Reviews should have more influence than porn presence. That said I have hired some porn stars without reviews because they were fantasies. Also realize that they are some men who will not hire escorts who have done porn because they want discretion and someone recognizable from porn is sometimes not able to give that, especially if the have notoriety.

 

It is a personal decision for you to do porn and a personal decision for the client to hire you. There is no rote answer.

[Steven_Draker]

Porn sex is nothing like real sex!

 

In porn sex there's....

 

no farting

 

no missed strokes resulting in a bent member

 

no gaging reflexes

 

no stoping to pick a pube from your tongue

 

no cramps

 

no need for gun oil

 

did I leave anything out?

 

 

 

Oh yeah, no emotional connection

 

Whilst discussing porn with Adam Champ last week, we both came to the same conclusion: there's nothing about porn that is real.

 

Porn is a fantasy.

 

"videos still reveal something about the guy's personality and ability to perform"

 

If you want details about his personality and his ability to perform AS AN ESCORT I would strongly advise you not to refer to porn movies.

[desertguy1954]

My experience in hiring porn stars has not been that great. In Palm Springs at certain times of the year we have a very nice selection to choose from. I am sure that what I am about to say does not apply to every porn star who also escorts, but this has been what I have experienced.

Other than physical contact there is no sense of any emotion. It is like they are doing a film. At times I feel that they are in a hurry to get it over with and go on to the next one. I always ask if they enjoy the company of older men. I am 60. They say no problem, but with some I can tell that it is a problem.

My choice has now become reading Daddys reviews and choosing from the great list of guys who do this for a living and truly seem to enjoy their job.

[tom1980]

If you want details about his personality and his ability to perform AS AN ESCORT I would strongly advise you not to refer to porn movies.[/color]

 

I agree to an extent. However, if he can't perform with another attractive porn actor, chances are he will have difficulty doing so with me.

[Steven_Draker]

However, if he can't perform with another attractive porn actor, chances are he will have difficulty doing so with me.

 

If I see a porn actor who can't "perform" with another attractive porn actor, I'd throw away the movie and pick another one.

 

In my opinion, Tom, porn work and escort work are too different from one another (they both require different skills). You can't judge how good/bad an escort is solely from his porn performance. I would say often, posters have complained here that an actor wasn't "performing" with them as in the movie.

 

Shooting porn is often used to drum up business, get more exposure and in fine charging "porn star rates".

 

More often than not, porn can be a double-edged sword.

[+ WhamIAm]

Consumer view: I've jumped both feet in re spending time with escorts and hired six over the last few months -- 3 awesome experiences, one good but not earthshaking, 2 awful beyond belief. Both of the horror stories were porn performers. With both, it was entirely about them. First guy talked about nothing buy how wonderful it was to be a sought-after porn "star" and escort. He gossiped about other performers he'd worked with and about what he perceived to be the horrors. of escorting -- being hired (and paid) by men who were morbidly obese, old, or, in his opinion, just plain ugly. I never got a word in edgewise. When we got upstairs, he told me he hadn't brought condoms or lube (he advertises as safe only and knew that topping was on the table and that I was only into safe from our prior discussions). Apparently, he only supplies them for in-calls. Then told me he doesn't like giving oral (contrary to his ads) and doesn't like to come when with clients. We played for a couple of hours. I give him the fact that he was an awesome kisser. Then, despite prior discussions, he tried to enter me without a condom. I called him off that, did bring him to climax. After that (about 3 hours in), without a word, he jumped up and started dressing. At this stage, I didn't mind his leaving early. He did, however, try to charge for the entire overnight.

 

Second guy -- good conversation beforehand, but when we got upstairs he became diva-licious. I'd told him before our meeting that I had an ED problem when with other guys (not alone, so it's brain, not body). Overcoming that was the reason I started hiring to begin with. After some foreplay he started some frottage and oral, which was actually working in terms of getting me somewhat hard. He said something that made clear he noticed he was making some head way (pick your pun there). Suddenly, he sat up and told me I needed to be more "active," though he refused to identify how. OK. So I laid him down and started some oral, then gently went to remove his shirt, which was still on about 30 minutes in. He jumped out of bed and said he didn't want to feel like a piece of meat. I always make sure I treat the guys I'm with with the utmost dignity and respect. Asked him what I'd done that upset him, again he had no specifics and said I'd been nothing but a gentleman to him. After about 15 more minutes of talking about his feelings, his needs, his desires, I asked him to leave.

 

I dunno, maybe it's me. I don't think so -- I'm mildly out-of-shape but not unattractive for a guy in his 50's, hygienic, a good conversationalist and generally happy and friendly. I started on this route in order to increase my self-esteem in bed, these guys both crushed it.

 

Sorry for the play-by-play, and I'm not really a sensitive snowflake. But their absolute disregard for the guy they'd agreed to spend time with (at premium rates) really blew my mind.

 

Short version: I've completely sworn off porn dudes.

[jimboivyo]

Consumer view: I've jumped both feet in re spending time with escorts and hired six over the last few months -- 3 awesome experiences, one good but not earthshaking, 2 awful beyond belief. Both of the horror stories were porn performers. With both, it was entirely about them. First guy talked about nothing buy how wonderful it was to be a sought-after porn "star" and escort. He gossiped about other performers he'd worked with and about what he perceived to be the horrors. of escorting -- being hired (and paid) by men who were morbidly obese, old, or, in his opinion, just plain ugly. I never got a word in edgewise. When we got upstairs, he told me he hadn't brought condoms or lube (he advertises as safe only and knew that topping was on the table and that I was only into safe from our prior discussions). Apparently, he only supplies them for in-calls. Then told me he doesn't like giving oral (contrary to his ads) and doesn't like to come when with clients. We played for a couple of hours. I give him the fact that he was an awesome kisser. Then, despite prior discussions, he tried to enter me without a condom. I called him off that, did bring him to climax. After that (about 3 hours in), without a word, he jumped up and started dressing. At this stage, I didn't mind his leaving early. He did, however, try to charge for the entire overnight.

 

Second guy -- good conversation beforehand, but when we got upstairs he became diva-licious. I'd told him before our meeting that I had an ED problem when with other guys (not alone, so it's brain, not body). Overcoming that was the reason I started hiring to begin with. After some foreplay he started some frottage and oral, which was actually working in terms of getting me somewhat hard. He said something that made clear he noticed he was making some head way (pick your pun there). Suddenly, he sat up and told me I needed to be more "active," though he refused to identify how. OK. So I laid him down and started some oral, then gently went to remove his shirt, which was still on about 30 minutes in. He jumped out of bed and said he didn't want to feel like a piece of meat. I always make sure I treat the guys I'm with with the utmost dignity and respect. Asked him what I'd done that upset him, again he had no specifics and said I'd been nothing but a gentleman to him. After about 15 more minutes of talking about his feelings, his needs, his desires, I asked him to leave.

 

I dunno, maybe it's me. I don't think so -- I'm mildly out-of-shape but not unattractive for a guy in his 50's, hygienic, a good conversationalist and generally happy and friendly. I started on this route in order to increase my self-esteem in bed, these guys both crushed it.

 

Sorry for the play-by-play, and I'm not really a sensitive snowflake. But their absolute disregard for the guy they'd agreed to spend time with (at premium rates) really blew my mind.

 

Short version: I've completely sworn off porn dudes.

 

 

just being 'in porn' doesn't mean jack squat as a good escort. folks forget that and let their dick do the thinking. never ends up good and they come here to piss and moan about their own poor choices

 

a good escort has honed all of his personal skills. there are very select guys of this level out there. these aren't the men who have the need to do porn to publicize themselves

[+ WhamIAm]

just being 'in porn' doesn't mean jack squat as a good escort. folks forget that and let their dick do the thinking. never ends up good and they come here to piss and moan about their own poor choices

 

a good escort has honed all of his personal skills. there are very select guys of this level out there. these aren't the men who have the need to do porn to publicize themselves

 

Yeah, that's just not as obvious when you first start out, especially when the reviews that are posted on Daddy's are uniformly positive, promotional crap like the Hookies suggest that these are decent guys, and the folks who had crap experiences don't post.

Absent a Surgeon General's warning, the lesson (or at least mine) comes only after a waste of time, money, and dignity.

 

Sorry if you felt I was bitching and moaning, just meant to share the experience.