3-way rates

[Bosguy]

I'm considering having a threesome with a couple of guys I have been with individually in the past. As I have been looking through the reviews about threesomes (Not with partnered guys like Alec & Ryan), I have gotten completely confused. In looking at the rates posted in the reviews:

1.) They are not a total of the 2 guys individual rates

2.) Some look like they are the rates for 1 of the guys

Anyway, the formula seems to be all over the place. Anybody know the usual formula for this? I know the posted individual rates, but the exact combination would be off the chart.

 

Thanks

Boston Bill

[adriano46]

Bosguy,

 

My general rule of thumb has been to pay each individual his fee (I usually do no less than 2 hours for a 3-some, or 4- or 5-some as the logistics demand the time. I might consider a 90-minute but it would depend on the chemistry and if the guys already know each other). It means that once I get the guys involved to commit, I also confirm with them the fee they will receive (which is their published fee working alone). If I know the guy(s) I might be extended a professional courtesy discount - but that is THEIR decision. I do not haggle or suggest a discounted fee.

 

On one occasion, I approached one of my go-to guys and asked HIM to find the third, and left it to him to negotiate the fee but told him it should not exceed his own fee (and I made sure I paid, not the go-between, to attempt to assure no kick-back schemes).

 

There are some escorts that really enjoy 3- 4- etc.. ways and like being included in them to in a way meet and work with other escorts and so I have had a rare guy or another who gives me a discount to their normal fee as a way of thanking me for being included. I will not name names of such men -- it has been in each case THEIR decision and it may be for me.

[Kevin Slater]

Often clients will ask me about threeways, whom would I like to include, etc. Then they ask if there's a group discount. That always tickles me, as setting up a threeway is incrementally more work that a regular booking (arranging thee schedules versus two, making the two parties comfortable with each other, the likelihood of last minute shift doubled and the resulting reshuffling exponentially more complex). I say it's each guy's going rate for his time.

 

Kevin Slater

[Steven_Draker]

Often clients will ask me about threeways, whom would I like to include, etc. Then they ask if there's a group discount. That always tickles me, as setting up a threeway is incrementally more work that a regular booking (arranging thee schedules versus two, making the two parties comfortable with each other, the likelihood of last minute shift doubled and the resulting reshuffling exponentially more complex). I say it's each guy's going rate for his time.

 

+1

 

But mind that some gay-for-pay escorts will charge you more than their going rate for a threesome.

There is no "usual formula" as things vary with each escort/couple of escorts.

It's always a good idea to go to the source and ask directly what he would charge for a three-way.

[Decatur Guy]

I've done multiple threeways with unpartnered escorts.

 

I pay each of them their going rate and then -- of course -- I consult with them and make sure both are comfortable that there will be another escort there. Sometimes, the escorts want to know who the other person will be. A couple of times, they even contacted each other ahead of time. Sometimes, they don't care and are glad to show up ready to work with whomever else I've hired. (Then of course, some escort prefer to work solo or at least have one-on-one meeting for the first time before doing a threeway).

 

In one case, I had an escort make all the arrangements for the second one. I paid just him and then he paid the second escort out of that. The fun thing about that one was I was blindfolded and didn't even know who he was going to bring in.

 

I can't remember how I've put the rates in Daddy's Reviews.

[rvwnsd]

I'm considering having a threesome with a couple of guys I have been with individually in the past...Anyway, the formula seems to be all over the place. Anybody know the usual formula for this?...

 

I don't think there is a usual formula for anything related to hiring escorts. You need to decide what is an acceptable rate and then ask your prospective hires what they would charge. When they quote their rates, determine whether the quoted rate is within what you want to pay and make a decision whether or not to hire them.

[+ Axiom2001]

I'm considering having a threesome with a couple of guys I have been with individually in the past. As I have been looking through the reviews about threesomes (Not with partnered guys like Alec & Ryan), I have gotten completely confused. In looking at the rates posted in the reviews:

1.) They are not a total of the 2 guys individual rates

2.) Some look like they are the rates for 1 of the guys

Anyway, the formula seems to be all over the place. Anybody know the usual formula for this? I know the posted individual rates, but the exact combination would be off the chart.

 

Thanks

Boston Bill

 

I did NOT go beyond your initial thread, so I'll cite my take on this from my limited experience. When I have threeways, I pay each participant his usual rate. If the rates seem to be unequal, this I don't consider because each escort has his own given rate. I tactfully make this clear at the time for our two hours of play and more play. As the client I am giving the two men a chance to enjoy each other's company as well as mine! That's it for me on this subject!

[BaronArtz]

I have so far not organized a 3-way (me and 2 escorts), but would think that it is reasonable to pay each escort his usual hourly rate. One time though, I approached an escort whom I had seen regularly, '5hotpennies' (now retired), about it. He said he wanted twice his normal fee, because it was 'twice the work'. In other words, as he said it, it was like having 2 clients to him. I sort of see the logic of that argument also. I didn't do it ... instead of hiring each escort for twice the fee, I was 'better off' paying them their regular fee for their one-on-one sessions with me. I guess there are no 'right' answers to this question.

[down_to_business]

I'm not going to negotiate anyone's fee up, down, or sideways to do a 3-way nor am I going to shell out Rate Esc 1 + Rate Esc 2 multiples by # of hours. Instead I am going to call Alec & Ryan and pay 1 reasonable fee and remove a lot of the worry and work involved in setting something like this up.

[adriano46]

down-to-business, that is great to hire a couple who come with a single price but I fear the majority here are going to pick and choose the group.

 

First, although there are a few escorts who do advertise with (and without) their partner, my one and only with a (an infamous) NYC couple was a dud -- liked one very much; disliked the other just about equally. Should have saved my money.

 

I find it more interesting and even exciting to put pairs together. I know what types I like and since I have various tastes, I like to get two (or three, and even once, four) who are examples of these types (smooth, hairy, daddy, jock, beefy...). Once I decide on what I would like, I make one call, and then set up the second. I do tell the guys up front I am interested in hiring 2 (or more) so they can back out if that is not good for them.

 

Once I have the names, I share that with those invited (and it's up to them to see if they want to contact the other - which most do).

 

I know the fee of each guy -- simply prepare an envelope for each with his name on it and fee inside (generally there will be a variation of up to $50 on the hourly rate but more and more I find most guys I hire are in the $220-$250 bracket).

 

Guys arrive, introductions are made, I have the envelopes in a very obvious place (never has a guy reached for it until they leave), refreshments are put out, clothes come off... you get the idea. Yes it may take a little logistical planning, but the outcome is well worth the effort.

[Kevin Slater]

A variation on the theme is to stagger the arrivals by 30 minutes, so you can play for multiple hours but only have any given guy for say an hour each. An ever changing party!

 

Another clever thing one of my clients does is to have another professional bottom in the room. Although said client doesn't have much use for a bottom, he does like watching another couple playing while he plays, and the right bottom may serve as inspiration to keep the energy of the entire room up.

 

Kevin Slater

[MiamiLooker]

Bosguy,

 

My general rule of thumb has been to pay each individual his fee (I usually do no less than 2 hours for a 3-some, or 4- or 5-some as the logistics demand the time. I might consider a 90-minute but it would depend on the chemistry and if the guys already know each other). It means that once I get the guys involved to commit, I also confirm with them the fee they will receive (which is their published fee working alone). If I know the guy(s) I might be extended a professional courtesy discount - but that is THEIR decision. I do not haggle or suggest a discounted fee.

 

On one occasion, I approached one of my go-to guys and asked HIM to find the third, and left it to him to negotiate the fee but told him it should not exceed his own fee (and I made sure I paid, not the go-between, to attempt to assure no kick-back schemes).

 

There are some escorts that really enjoy 3- 4- etc.. ways and like being included in them to in a way meet and work with other escorts and so I have had a rare guy or another who gives me a discount to their normal fee as a way of thanking me for being included. I will not name names of such men -- it has been in each case THEIR decision and it may be for me.

 

Is this any different than an escort offering a discounted fee if the client will see him at a more convenient day or time than originally requested?

[Juan Vancouver]

Anybody know the usual formula for this?

 

Hey Boston Bill,

 

Here is your formula: F + F = PP (Forget, then Find out. Only then will you be Prepared for the Pleasure)

 

Treat every hiring situation as if it were your first one.

 

Forget what you read about their rates, the hearsay, the rates of other people you hired before, what your pals at daddysreviews think, forget it all. While in the process of contacting a new escort or a regular escort for a new scenario make sure you ask. Ask in terms that are clear, unequivocal concrete. Not "I might want a group, how much?" but " I am thinking of having a three hour session with you, Billy Bob and John Doe. How much would you charge me for such a session? Do you have conditions? Are you comfortable with groups? Are there any escorts you feel more comfortable working with or are there some you don't work with?" And so on.

 

You'd be surprised with the different answers you get.

 

You'll remember the beautiful Olivier and Marco, an actual couple. Sweeter guys you could not find, very in love with one another. They traveled the world together and to hire both the rate was substantially higher than twice their individual rate. Other escorting couples charge exactly twice their individual rate, some charge a little less that that.

 

Some escorts do not work with other escorts. Some do but don't like it so they charge a lot more. Some do and they charge the same regardless of number of escorts present in the room. Some will join in if you give them drugs. You'll get as many different answers as there are escorts, and maybe more, since some escorts will quote different rates at different times. (It has happened before, it will happen again.)

 

The only formula to be prepared before a session when it comes to escorting is communicate clearly and make sure you are receiving clear and direct answers to your questions.

 

Rinse and repeat before every single session. It makes things easier and safer for you.

 

I hope this is helpful.

[Bosguy]

Thanks guys for your responses to my question. I didn't note this in my post, but this was my first 3-way (you can teach an old dog new tricks) and the rate issue was the combination of each guy's posted rates for the amount of time. I'm a big proponent of proper communication and, I admit, I really didn't follow my own advice on this one.

By the way, everything went far beyond my greatest expectations and a super time was had by all. Review in process.

 

Boston Bill

[adriano46]

Bosguy, glad you had a good time. The planning and staging of a 3-way or more-way can take a lot out of the client planner (or sometimes clients ask one escort to do all the work). But - as mentioned earlier - I find that in every case but one, once the doorbell rings, introductions made and guys begin to get comfortable... the party can be amazing.

 

Now Kevin Slater's idea of staggering some of them is fascinating and I think it is something worth exploring in the future.... Once I finish writing my check pater today for the %%$#$%$ IRS.

[Juan Vancouver]

Yay, a success story!

 

So glad to read you had a good time.

 

Big hug!