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I recall that it was HOOBOYS Policy that IF a guy was "Advertising" he was Fair Game for Reviews.

 

I know of "Angel Diablos" Hot SOLO Videos he as done..IF he did overtime have ADS and has since Removed them should his request be honored at this time to No Longer Post Reviews :confused:

 

There will always be "Working Guys" for MANY Reasons that donot want Reviews.....even IF they are very Positive Experiences..

 

His Name has come up on Muscle Service BUT not as a guy who Works It "Privately".

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From the FAQ

 

"There are special cases where we will drop the entire review page as a courtesy to the Escort. Occasionally we will drop a review page when both parties ask. All such requests are handled on a case-by-case basis and requires an acceptable reason for doing so."

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IF he did overtime have ADS and has since Removed them should his request be honored at this time to No Longer Post Reviews :confused:

 

His Name has come up on Muscle Service BUT not as a guy who Works It "Privately".

 

IF he had ads? Wrong tense....he currently has ads on Rentboy - Las Vegas.

 

If the reviews are causing him so much trouble in his private life, perhaps he should refrain from performing the activities that got him reviewed in the first place.

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IF he had ads? Wrong tense....he currently has ads on Rentboy - Las Vegas.

 

If the reviews are causing him so much trouble in his private life, perhaps he should refrain from performing the activities that got him reviewed in the first place.

 

Seriously.....he's playing the victim here when it's pretty clear he at least WAS a sex worker. You don't get five reviews on Daddy's for working the drive-thru at Wendys'. So all this BS he's spouting and his denial is quite amusing. Own up to your past, present or whatever the case is and move on.

 

Don't shoot the messenger or let the facts get in the way.

 

Granted - he has some right to privacy - but no right to dictate what others post - be they true comments or not. Did he not read the Owners Manual to escorting and the inherent risks involved?

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Admittedly I don't think he approached the situation/worded the request well. I can't argue that it doesn't come across as if he's dictating what he wants not to be written. And I can't say its because English is his second language because he speaks it pretty damned well. :-)

 

To play devil's advocate... maybe at the time he wrote it, he was in a situation that he saw no other recourse, but to try to hide the fact he escorted. He did take his ad down for a long period around the time he sent the message to daddy about removing his reviews. Since his ad is up again, maybe the situation has cleared.

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To play devil's advocate... maybe at the time he wrote it, he was in a situation that he saw no other recourse, but to try to hide the fact he escorted. He did take his ad down for a long period around the time he sent the message to daddy about removing his reviews. Since his ad is up again, maybe the situation has cleared.

 

So this is a totally hypothetical conjecture on why he asked for his reviews to be removed? And yet what a ring of truth-hmmm!!

 

Going by his ad, he is either actually straight- or trying to play the straight card. I hire for more interactive companionship. Muscle worship without actual interaction does nothing for me.

 

Gman

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So this is a totally hypothetical conjecture on why he asked for his reviews to be removed? And yet what a ring of truth-hmmm!!

 

Hmmmm... could be. :p

Honestly, I'm not going to go into details and the whys of Angel's choice. I do know he was/is dealing with something major that may have caused him to do what he did, i.e. request the reviews to be removed. I do know of another escort who did something similar, but that particular escort retired completely from escorting and didn't want any evidence of his old life to affect his new one.

 

Going by his ad, he is either actually straight- or trying to play the straight card. I hire for more interactive companionship. Muscle worship without actual interaction does nothing for me.

 

Gman

 

I would classify him as bisexual with a leaning toward women. You make the assumption he's not interactive... he's very much so. :)

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What is somewhat interesting is that the most recent reviewer (JJSmith51) on Daddy’s reviews (to which Angel apparently responded with the removal request) states himself that “I will not share more Infos (sic) as I might get in trouble with him…” If you check out review #1 dated 5/25/2012, the reviewer. Caddy, asks Daddy to remove his review since he was just advised by Angel that Angel did not want ANY reviews. Perhaps Angel should make it very clear to his apparently very satisfied clients that he does not want them to submit a review to Daddy’s site. Ever! Maybe Angel is also somewhat fearful of legal repercussions since his RB ad is so very adamant about his being hired for time and companionship only!

 

TruHart1 :cool:

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I don't understand all the Hate when all the Major Hunk asks is to "Not Be Reviewed" as he did last Year and it was ignored :confused:

 

The lack of Respect is pathetic. This is why Many Clients & Working Guys have no use for the Chit-Chat in recent times around here concerning a still very ILLEGAL Profession! Just because you Chit-Chat about it..don't make it Legal Boys!

 

It shows just how much Class these Clients DONOT have knowing he doesn't want them or I'm sure "need them' to put in writing their obviously Great Experiences!

 

Save the Hate for those Working Guys who "Screw Clients" not in a good way by their Reviews! :mad:

 

The Guy has left his Number for anyone with Balls enuff to discuss their opinion with him!

 

Please... this is the only comment I am making..not into Chatty Cat fights never have been!

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I don't understand all the Hate when all the Major Hunk asks is to "Not Be Reviewed" as he did last Year and it was ignored :confused:

 

The lack of Respect is pathetic. This is why Many Clients & Working Guys have no use for the Chit-Chat in recent times around here concerning a still very ILLEGAL Profession! Just because you Chit-Chat about it..don't make it Legal Boys!

 

+1 --- Many working guys in Las Vegas have told me stories of stings and they prefer keeping their activities very much on the DL. Maybe we should respect that unless we want to scare most of them out of town.

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+2. This type of publicity could result in deportation for someone who is not a citizen. Have no clue as to what actually happened but I never post a review without first asking the escort if they are ok with it. That doesn't mean that they get to preapprove it and see if it's positive or negative, but I have no desire to "out" someone or place them in harm's way. I thought the saying was what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas? :)

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Angel's dispute with Daddy

 

I don't mean to step into Daddy's shoes or moderator shoes, but first I do believe once a review has been posted, only Daddy has the option to remove the review and usually it will be with a polite request from the gentleman.

 

Actually someone who I reviewed in the past and talked about on the forum had to curtail his activities quickly and I respected that decision immediately. I believe he then requested daddy to remove the reviews and his ad then disappeared. It would not shock me if it was exactly the type of situation that newtothis described but in that case the ad and all remnants disappeared.

 

I would think if it is a situation that Adriano or newtothis described why would the ad not disappear too. Just stick to muscle worship sites, why have the ad on rentboy. Or is this more the situation that in a couple of the reviews he is described and versatile anally. I have heard of situations where that was the issue and the gentleman did not want that to get out. The link in the review does not work, change your phone # and change your name, this is good reason why you don't show face pics either.

 

I just think there is a bit more to this story than is being stated by Angel because, I have almost always found Daddy to lean towards honoring the gentleman's requests with just a simple please and thank you and short reason. You know I always get my dandruff, well when I use to have hair that is, when somebody starts spouting I am going to an attorney. Plus there is reasonable proof that your doing an illegal activity. It's like saying I am reporting you to the police because you sold me powdered sugar and not cocaine. Just saying . . .

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Makes sense. Threatening legal action is dumb; I guess I was giving him the benefit of the doubt because people tend to act in dumb ways when they panic.

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I've updated the message from Angel Diablo to indicate that it was received on 10/24/12. BTW: Reviews are not ads; It's an important distinction.

 

Simply deleting a page does not have the effect intended. Search engines will update pages that change which is why my first step is to remove the photo and the contact information. "Deleted" pages can remain in the search engine caches for years. After a few months, I'm usually open to revisiting the issue but as pointed out, I make the decisions on a case by case basis.

 

The FAQ is very clear that on the matter:

"
If all your advertising on the net and in magazines are taken down first we will take down your picture, purge your contact information, and show you as "Retired".
This allows the various search engines to update their caches with the new information.

We recommend that you delete your escorting email address and change your phone number.
Removing all traces of your Listings and Reviews can take a lot of time, you will need to be patient."

 

Being polite to Daddy will usually get a polite response in return; threatening legal action or lying to Daddy gets you a grumpy old man. I rarely will continue the conversation once the threat is made.

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... I never post a review without first asking the escort if they are ok with it. ... but I have no desire to "out" someone...

 

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with this thought process. If someone is putting themselves out on the internet advertising themselves, they have already exposed themselves to the risk of being outed.

 

Secondly, if every client asked permission to post a review before doing so, we would never have a true picture of half the service providers out there. It annoys me when I am interested in someone only to find out that there are no reviews even though they have been in business for years. And many times when inquiring in the forum, members say will relay an experience but didn't bother to post a review. So we want to have a review site, but we don't want to do reviews??? Or we want to ask permission first? If you got mediocre service from your plumber would you ask his permission before reviewing him on yelp or google?

 

As I said, I disagree with the previously stated opinion.

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Understand where you're coming from, but sometimes a bit of humanity is in order. If you saw someone and found out that he was being investigated for deportation would you still post? What about if they had partnered with someone or gotten a new job and were trying to erase a part of their past and begged you not to post? If someone had robbed you or done something really bad reviews are a great source of information. But sometimes compassion is important. And no, simply not posting isn't going to make someone's past go away, the internet takes care of that, but it's just a sign of kindness. After all, this is hardly consumers report.

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I really don't like how Daddy handled this situation - his request definitely could have been polite and just asking to remove nicely- but the whole fuck you attitude to an escort who wants ALL reviews deleted - not just the bad ones just gives off this whole self righteous vibe - and Angel Diablo has all good reviews. So why not delete his reviews and take the high road despite the hostility of his request? Escorts are people too who are not in a very safe line of work - so allow them to move on if they want to and LET THEM try to remove all information of this job if they need to. Not this whole "haha fuck you case by case, sorry you're trying to move on with your life past this stage, we're going to leave this shit on here about you anyway".

 

What we're doing here is not legitimate, let's be real, and yeah google cache still exists, but damn you guys really need to be able to cut escort's a break if they don't want several paragraphs dedicated to them and their services and have their picture attached to it. Discretion goes both ways gentleman for both the escort and client, and for you guys to jump in on this escort with good reviews who asked to have his stuff taken down (even when he asked harshly) and then leave his stuff on this website - it's extremely hypocritical. Shit like this hinders the working guys from trusting clients even further, and really brings down the name of this website if escorts can't get their information removed from here. We're breaking one of the major rules of this game - discretion - and the fact that we're not holding up our end of the bargain even if the escort was being a jerk in his request - it's not right.

 

Between this and the Simon Dexter thread evaluating his personal lifestyle and other threads similar to this - sorry guys, but this entire forum needs to re-evaluate themselves because we're starting to become the crazy clients.

 

EDIT - Reposted in a correct format.

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Daddy provides this service at no cost. Treating him like an employee and demanding things are not the way to go about it. I've been there.

 

Not ALL "Working Guys" are looking for Daddys FREE Service! There's just as many that Don't want or need it!

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Escorts are people too who are not in a very safe line of work - so allow them to move on if they want to and LET THEM try to remove all information of this job if they need to. Not this whole "haha fuck you case by case, sorry you're trying to move on with your life past this stage, we're going to leave this shit on here about you anyway".

 

The situation might be different if that's what Angel Diablo was doing. He's not. His rentboy ad is still up: http://rentboy.com/Listing.aspx?lid=394735&scid=109205551&sp=2&pos=33&locid=1545&iid=476350.

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Can someone PLEASE explain what the problem is? The guy has done porn under the same stage name (as he lists on his RB ad). He's worried about a few reviews here, yet he has an ad on Rentboy currently touting his work for Randy Blue, Powermen, and MuscleHunks? The work for RandyBlue was at about the same time as the request to pull the review. If he doesn't want anyone to be able to find out what he's doing, he sure has a bizarre way of going about it.

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I think he wanted his reviews removed at that point in time (10/24/12) for a particular legal reason, associated to his escort activity.

 

Things change in life; his situation may have improved and his problem may have been solved since then, which I hope is the case.

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