The Dark Side of HooBoy. Time to say goodbye

[Guest JustStarting]

I have followed recent postings about barebacking with great interest. About a year ago, I “discovered” HooBoy's site and hired my first escort. At age 55 I had my first gay sexual experience. In the months that followed, I’ve since been with 6 different escorts. Each escort was a popular, highly regarded man with several glowing reviews on this site. I wrote two reviews of my own as well. With each experience, I became more free and open with sex with these charming, handsome men. After some fumbling attempts, I became a pretty good top.

 

Now the dark side. My last two experiences have convinced me it’s time to stop. I had discussed with each of these escorts my desire to top them. As the session progressed and it was time for the “main event,” on both occasions, without my asking or suggesting, each escort sat on me bareback! I was astonished, frightened and excited at the same time. Yes it felt fantastic, and I certainly enjoyed it while it lasted. But afterwards, the panic, shock and fear were far worse than the momentary ecstasy. When I asked each escort why they did that, they both answered something like, “I’m tested often, I’m negative, I have a good feeling about you.”

 

Part of me, of course, wants to book return engagements. However, I have enough self control to realize, it’s time to stop. I’m afraid should I re-hire them, I’d certainly be tempted to repeat the bareback. These were not desperate hustlers off the street. These were both, I repeat, popular escorts of this site each with more than a dozen glowing reviews. I’m certain they are financially very successful. I cannot believe that my experience is unique.

 

So it’s time for me to say so long to the world of HooBoy and the world of escorts. Yes it was great, (I hope it wasn’t fatal), but time to move on to something else. I’ll still lurk from time to time to read about my “cyber friends,” although I’m afraid that even that may cause a relapse. It felt great, it was unbelievable, but I’d find it impossible to risk trying again.

[Chuck50]

And why might I ask are you blaming this on Hooboy?/ He hasn't promoted it. I don't think h even does it himself? Not sure but he is a guy and a friend who knows better and has seen lots of guys suffer so don't leave on his account. Make it your own and that you are leaving because of you. HUGS Chuck:7

[Guest JustStarting]

No obviously I'm not blaming HooBoy or anyone. I chose to call the escort, I chose to put myself in that experience. I chose to stop now.

[alanalt]

Well, don't let the door hit your a** on the way out!

 

I'm sorry but even if I suspend my disbelief at certain elements of your story (i.e. how you, the top, was 'made' to bareback), I fail to see why you have to drag Hooboy's good name into this. Here we have another case of someone bringing accusations against "well-reviewed" escorts who remain unnamed; telling incredible stories (OK, I've given up trying to suspend my disbelief here ) and then somehow trying to tie it to Hooboy, this site, or the world of escorting in general as if it will absolve them of their own irresponsibility...

[Guest ncm2169]

Hey Just Starting!

 

Sorry to see you go, but you gave sound personal reasons for doing so.

 

In my case, except for a very few barebacking experiences years ago (well before HIV in this country), I only began experimenting with anal sex recently (I'm in my late 40's). I made a rule for myself early on: no barebacking, period.

 

Don't get me wrong. I've been tempted in the passion of the moment, more than once. Fortunately, I've always had the self-discipline to adhere to my rule.

 

We're all human and we all have varying abilities to control our passions in a sexually charged moment. In your case, I TOTALLY commend you for your ability to acknowledge your weaknesses and behave accordingly. That, in itself, shows MAJOR strength. We should all wish that more clients and escorts would emulate you!:*

[Guest ncm2169]

Oops. Are we on opposite sides here?

 

P.S. Where the fuck have you been? :o

[alanalt]

>We should all wish that more clients and

>escorts would emulate you!:*

 

Make for a pretty boring board if we all got out of the biz, non?

 

;-)

[Rick Munroe]

>When I asked each

>escort why they did that, they both answered something like,

>“I’m tested often, I’m negative, I have a good feeling about

>you.”

 

The stupidity of that statement boggles the mind. That sounds to me like something a positive person would say (not to worry you). I don't see why you have to give up sex entirely, though. I don't bareback and I make sure that every person I have sex with knows that. Why can't you just learn from these experiences and make sure your sex partners know your limits? Communication is always the key to good sex. Also, I agree with alanalt -- to a degree. While I know you weren't referring to HooBoy in particular (in the thread title) but rather to the whole escorting profession, it's still unfair. It sounds like you have a problem with self control, and that this would happen to you whether the other person was an escort or not.

[alanalt]

Oh here and there!

 

I don't disagree with his decision to withdraw if that's how he feels he has to handle it. What rubbed my rhubarb the wrong way is that he comes in, announces how he engaged willingly in unsafe sex (with unspecified but 'well-reviewed' escorts)and now regrets that and so won't do it any more. Then he picks a title that casts aspersions on Hooboy and the world of escorting in general. That sort of thing makes me cranky...x(

 

To be honest, if he has the sort of problems he describes with escorts, how d'you think he going to do with unpaid partners (who are just as likely, if not more so, to take those kinds of risks...). In other words, I don't think his problem is escorts, I think his problem is having sex safely and giving up the former isn't necessarily going to help him with the latter...

 

Cheers!

[Guest ncm2169]

"Non" ?? Parlais vous Quebec? }(

 

My message is simple: no barebacking. If that means they leave, escort or client, so be it. I just thought this guy was honest about his situation, and he didn't blame it on the escort(s).

 

P.S. Gotta tell ya sometime soon about a client who had to fly an old regular in recently to see him in an emergency situation. The escort was held up while a client rubbed his feet for 4 hours. Where were you that weekend? :+

[alanalt]

>Also, I agree

>with alanalt -- to a degree. While I know you weren't

>referring to HooBoy in particular (in the thread title) but

>rather to the whole escorting profession, it's still unfair.

>It sounds like you have a problem with self control, and that

>this would happen to you whether the other person was an

>escort or not.

>

>

Actually, I think we agree completely. You just presented it somewhat more politely than I did in my 'crankiness'...

[alanalt]

Maid oui, I'm just you're average francais-speaking redneck Albertan!

 

As for the other, I'm hardly the only guy out there with a foot fetish }(

 

(I dare say there are even more of them than francais-speaking redneck Albertans)

[alanalt]

er that's 'Mais'. I'll just blame it on the lateness of the hour, lack of caffeine rather than my poor grasp of other languages...

[Guest Utopia]

Three words come to mind, No self control?

[Guest ncm2169]

< I'm just you're average francais-speaking redneck Albertan! >

 

Uh huh, but with a twist. Albertan rednecks rub feet. Southern American rednecks rub their...ummm...well that, PLUS their trailer hitches! }(

 

P.S. You sure you weren't in Vegas a coupla weeks ago? :9

[Guest fukamarine]

>>It sounds like you have a problem with self control, and

>that

>>this would happen to you whether the other person was an

>>escort or not.

>>

>>

>Actually, I think we agree completely. You just presented it

>somewhat more politely than I did in my 'crankiness'...

 

To be fair about it, I can understand why if you were lying on your back, naked, with a huge hard-on pointing straight up into the air and a hottie escort started to sit on it - even although he did not put a condom on you - how the temptation to enjoy what was being offered could be irristable. Faced with the same situation myself, I honestly don't know what I would do. As I know I am negative, I would not be concerned about giving anything to the escort. And I think the risk of him transmitting anything to you would be slight - like how would "it" get into your bloodstream?

 

What I really think the original poster was trying to convey is that we should all be aware that just because an escort gets good reviews it doesn't follow that he plays by the rules of safe sex. I don't think he was in any way blaming Hooboy personally, he was using the name Hooboy to identify the site. He also was not blaming the escorts. He is exiting from the practice of hiring escorts for one reason - and one reason only. He does not trust himself. And that is a wise decision because you knows you better than you do?

 

fukamarine

[Guest ncm2169]

Actually, Utopia, the guy exercised self control, hence his decision.

 

Yeah, I know, it's a hard concept to grasp late at night.

 

It might be nice if you paid attention now and then instead of taking cheap shots whenever you feel like it. :o

 

Next time you have something positive to say here, I daresay it will be more than welcome.:*

[Guest Utopia]

>Actually, Utopia, the guy exercised self control, hence his

>decision.

>

>Yeah, I know, it's a hard concept to grasp late at night.

>

>It might be nice if you paid attention now and then instead of

>taking cheap shots whenever you feel like it. :o

>

>Next time you have something positive to say here, I daresay

>it will be more than welcome.:*

 

ncm, Still hurting about my comment on your overboard and heavy handed publicity of a certain escort, huh? Get over it.

===

"You realize that life goes fast

It's hard to make the good things last"

[Guest ncm2169]

< ncm, Still hurting about my comment..... >

 

Hardly. I blew that off immediately for what it was...just another cranky post here.

 

Ya know, Utopia, we all have a chance to contribute here, in the way or ways that suit each of us. In that regard, I respect your right to say what you wish, even if I think it's garbage, just as you probably think my posts are inappropriate from time to time.

 

I try to be constructive here. Let's leave it at that. :*

[HooBoy]

If you can find the archives, you will see that I have always maintained that the only safe sex is no sex whatsoever unless it is with yourself. How dark is that?

 

Truth is, my unscientific research has shown me that 85% of young guys are engaging in bareback sex, in bath houses, discos, night clubs, sex parties, homes, cars, churches, bathrooms, henhouses, outhouses, hotels, trains, boats, planes, etc. I have witnessed it first hand in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Orange County, San Francisco, Seattle, Houston, Dallas, Miami, Boston, P-Town, New Orleans, the streets of New Orleans, Montreal, London, Amsterdam, Tokyo, Hawaii, Hong Kong, Bangkok -- just to name a few.

 

So if you decide that this is the dark side of the internet and you elect to practice abstinence, the more power to you. Since the days of sticking our pee pees into the vacuum cleaner hose, the paper towel roll, or for the less fortunate, the toilet paper roll, we have all made decisions regarding our sexual behavior.

 

If someone else does it and both parties are willing I may not agree with their choice, but so what?

 

I only hope that if you do choose the path of abstinence that a truck will not run you over while you are crossing the street. Not only will you have missed out of some great pleasures of life, but you will anger the Bible thumpers for spilling your pent up seed on the ground, when you could have had hours of enjoyment spewing it on some hunky guy's chest. But being a nervous Nelly, you will probably avoid the street to for fear a plane may fall from the sky and hit you.

 

And remember, you can always slip on the heat-seeking torpedo raincoat, Enjoy life and do not allow fear to control you.

 

Adios amigo!

[Guest ncm2169]

Umm...could we have the complete version in one coherent language, please? :+

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Cohesive

 

Barebacking is risky irrespective of sero-status. Why has been discussed ad naseum here so this is one instance where you will just need to do the research yourselves, kids.

 

To assume that anyone saying or doing anything means they are positive is simply that, an assumption.

 

As Hoo Boys so coherently pointed out, the only safe sex is with yourself (or perhaps a Schlage Lock).

 

I fall down squarely (albeit somewhat uncomfortable as my high horse is quite tall) on the side of those who believe that this thread is emblematic more of a lack of self-control, both on the part of the original poster and any "popular" and "well reviewed" escorts who allegedly do or did this.

 

I also fall squarely (very comfortable, thank you) on the side of providing better information if you are going to tar escorts, no matter how generically and non-specifically with a brush and cheap paint or keep that artistic talent well hidden.

 

Finally, as Frank Rich would put it, a classic drama queen wannabe post. Otherwise, the original post could have appeared thusly:

 

After deliberate consideration, I realize that I cannot exercise sufficient self-control on behalf of my own health to continue to even simply peruse a site that deals with gay male sexuality and escorting; therefore, while I found material and information to admire here, I must, for my own health and well being, no longer indulge.

[alanalt]

1) The scenario presented still strikes me as unbelievable especially as it's reported to have happened twice out of six times. Seems that with a rate of 33%, this sort of thing should be happening a lot more if it's as wide-spread as he implies. Certainly it's counter to my own experience, which in the end is all I can really count on for sure.

 

2) The fact that some escorts don't play it safe is well-known on this site. Adding a vague comment about a scenario that's supposedly happened with escorts 'with glowing reviews' doesn't help much (in my less-than-humble opinion anyway ).

 

3) Nowhere in his post does he say he's going to stop having sex. And that, for me, is the real issue. Because, as Hooboy points out elsewhere in this thread, barebacking is a phenomena that's becoming increasingly popular outside 'the escort world'. So by leaving 'the dark side of Hooboy' x( he's not facing his fundamental problem, which is going to persist until he either becomes celibate, learns some self-discipline, or decides that barebacking's not a bad thing after all. (And I'm certainly not advocating that last choice, which I agree is a stupid choice, but it would address the issue)...

[HooBoy]

(Edited simply because of spelling errors my young proofreader, who speaks no English missed.)

 

NCM wants the complete version in one coherent language?

 

I do not bareback. I do not condone barebacking. The majority of people having sex I have witnessed bareback and do not seem to care. It is none of my business if they do and it is none of your business, either.

 

Be true to yourself and your stick to your standards, but do not become a Pat Robertson and attempt to legislate sexual behavior - the Supreme Court has already struck you down.

 

Don't fuck at all and live all your years HIV free.

 

Don't leave your house and you'll never get hit by a truck or a falling plane - unless of course, the truck or the plane hits your house...

 

Is that C-L-E-A-R enough for you? (Maybe it was the "Adios Amigos" that stumped him.)

 

Sorry, I got involved in this, but my name was mentioned. I must return now to auditioning proof readers.

 

Obrigado muito!

 

:+ }(

 

:*

[BewareofNick]

To say that this is indicative of the dark side of Hooboy is simply a lie. (I suspect a Fox News employee at owrk, but I digress...)

 

What it IS indicative of is YOUR dark side, or perhaps the dark side of the escorts. YOU made the choice to continue barebacking once the escort mounted you. YOU made the choice to cum inside them. To blame this on Hooboy is simply ridiculous. You even said it yourself, you found it exciting once it happened. You wanted it and you made a choice to have it. All you had to do is say no.

 

This is about as ridiculous as someone suing McDonalds becasue they're fat. No one forced you into that drive through. No one forced you to super-size.

 

Take responsibility for yourself.