Escorts that get STIFFED and not in a good way

[+ purplekow]

I just received an e mail from an escort in which he mentioned to me that he was the escort in one of the more recently popular threads concerning a first time experience. He mentioned that the "first timer" not only overstayed the time but that after a multiple hour drive by the escort, the "newbie" left satisfied, while the escort was unpaid. What is the consensus here on the board, is this just the price of doing business? or should this kind of monkey business be greeted by the business end of a fist? Perhaps somewhere in between?​

[adriano46]

Here is the dilemma :: if the escort asks up front for the money, clients whine; if he does not ask for it up front, he risks getting stiffed (and not just during as much as after the event).

 

I have always had a policy when I meet a guy for the very first time to have his fee clearly out in the open, discreetly in an envelope but with flap open so he can see it is what he is expecting. I do not hand it to him nor does he reach for it until we are done, but clearly he sees I am serious.

[bigvalboy]

I think that it is despicable stiffing escorts, assuming of course that the escort did nothing wrong, and believe me, I have heard stories from escorts about clients blatantly refusing to pay. Most tell me that they just walk away. Using your fist in my opinion is just not an option, unless of course they stick it up the clients ass....(did I just say that?) Sorry, I know a bit vulgar, but most of these escorts are such decent people, it just irritates me to no end....

 

I'm not sure that there is a solution....In my opinion, it is about the same as a client being stiffed, it's just the cost of doing business.

[DeeGeeBee]

'Business end of a fist' could mean police business in the end. Horrid situation getting stiffed, no doubt. But violence has consequences, sometimes dire consequences.

 

 

I just received an e mail from an escort in which he mentioned to me that he was the escort in one of the more recently popular threads concerning a first time experience. He mentioned that the "first timer" not only overstayed the time but that after a multiple hour drive by the escort, the "newbie" left satisfied, while the escort was unpaid. What is the consensus here on the board, is this just the price of doing business? or should this kind of monkey business be greeted by the business end of a fist? Perhaps somewhere in between?​

[Tighty]

It really is despicable to not pay an escort. Almost like rape.

[Epigonos]

As a rule I only use escorts who are well reviewed on this site. I like sharing a meal with these guys prior to playing around. I have ALWAYS, upon meeting the escort, at his place or at mine, presented him with an envelope containing his fee. I even encourage him to count the money telling him that I am perfectly capable of making a mistake; interestingly I have never had an escort count the money. It is absolutely inconceivable to me that a client would stiff and escort. I never cease to be amazed at how tacky some people are.

[+ FreshFluff]

Would it be worth getting the clients' side of the story and, if there was no reason for non-payment, encouraging the escort to tell the story (along with the name) to other escorts in the area? Clients, after all, can come here to share info about which escorts are great and which are rip offs. Client reviews are trickier, but there's no reason escorts shouldn't share info too.

[+ purplekow]

There is a "client" in the Boston area who goes by the name Bill but i have no idea if that is his real name or not, I have heard from at least 4 different escorts that this man has escorts come to the Boston suburbs and then does not pay them for their time, which in one case was a weekend. Bill, apparently is fairly prominent in his area and I hear tell that he enjoys the rip off more than the actual act. Now this is hearsay about a man likely using an alias, but it does point out that there are rip off clients just as there are rip off escorts. I hope the escorts have a means of trying to protect each other from these guys.

[TruHart1]

There are a few websites for escort to submit info and complaints:

 

http://blacklistednow.blogspot.com

 

http://badboyreport.kr

 

where an escort can warn other escorts about bad clients.

 

TruHart1:cool:

[maninsoma]

I honestly don't know how this situation could be entirely eliminated. Yes, escorts could ask for their fee up front but then some clients (including myself) would likely not hire them.

 

This phenomenon is liking "dining and ditching" at a restaurant. What can a restaurant do about that? Sure, they could try to detain you until the police arrive to arrest you, but more than likely most people who do this get away with it. Same thing for shoplifting. Fortunately, most people aren't thieves.

[Steven_Draker]

I've been stiffed too a few times.

 

My impression is that these people do not realize their wrongdoing.

[Guest countryboywny]

I've been stiffed too a few times.

 

My impression is that these people do not realize their wrongdoing.[/color]

 

I just don't understand how someone could stiff an escort and not realize they're doing wrong. Totally beyond me.

[niceguyaz]

Even if I have a disappointing experience I still pay the agreed fee - I just don't hire again. Business is business.

[Phil_musc]

Even if I have a disappointing experience I still pay the agreed fee - I just don't hire again. Business is business.

 

+1

[Tighty]

+1

 

+2

[adriano46]

Even if I have a disappointing experience I still pay the agreed fee - I just don't hire again. Business is business.

 

+3 - and later put in a review to help others avoid the bad experience, but never, ever stiff the escort unless he shows up drunk, high, belligerent, not the guy I thought -- I give him cab fare and then close the door gently but firmly.

[unsub2O17]

Even if I have a disappointing experience I still pay the agreed fee - I just don't hire again. Business is business.

 

+4 with nothing to add to the above

[Zapped]

In any business, you are going to have some deadbeats, and you need to factor that in to your financial planning.

 

While most of us have a conscience, some guys just like to rip people off.

 

My sister lived with a guy who is the type who gives used-car salesmen their bad name. He served time for some sort of felony fraud involving changing or removing a VIN on a high-end foreign car, and lost his dealership. When I met him, he was buying low-end used cars, sprucing them up, and reselling for a profit. He really enjoyed when he could get a desperate person to sell him a car for much, much less than it was worth in cash.

 

If he was a first-time client with an escort, I could well imagine him leaving without paying. (I'm sure he's done that in many restaurants.)

 

When I first hired an escort, I was married, conflicted about my same-sex attraction, and having money problems. I couldn't really afford it. After our session, the guy--who was disappointing in many ways (he was kind of rude) but with whom I had a very intense orgasm nevertheless--took my cash, put it in an open pocket of a backpack on the floor of his room, and stepped out to the living room to chat with his roommate, who had just come home. I was tempted to pluck the money from the pocket. I would have walked out, disappeared into the New York night, and he wouldn't have known until too late.

 

Because I could[i have gotten away with it, I was tempted--strongly. But, of all things, my father's voice in my head wouldn't let me. Ironic, because he was so fucking homophobic!

 

Meanwhile, his roommate, who was cute, made it clear he thought I was, too. But I wasn't about to hang around and flirt with the roommate of the guy I'd just paid to jerk me off. That would have been weird!

[Guest Starbuck]

In any business, you are going to have some deadbeats, and you need to factor that in to your financial planning.

 

That's the real bottom line. I suppose some despicable people feel they can more easily get away with this bad behavior when dealing with an escort, but I never worked in a business that didn't experience at least a few clients who failed to pay (and whose debts were eventually written off). Even when legal action is possible, it's not always worth the time and cost ... a frustrating fact for those of us who believe in paying our bills in a timely manner.

[bigvalboy]

That's the real bottom line. I suppose some despicable people feel they can more easily get away with this bad behavior when dealing with an escort, but I never worked in a business that didn't experience at least a few clients who failed to pay (and whose debts were eventually written off). Even when legal action is possible, it's not always worth the time and cost ... a frustrating fact for those of us who believe in paying our bills in a timely manner.

 

+1 .... I think most of us operate with a level of integrity that just seems to escape those that think being unscrupulous is somehow OK. This thread reminded me of a friend of mine who stiffed and escort out of 50% of his fee. He justified the lack of payment by saying that the escort was 1/2 hour late and a pile of other excuses that didn't really fly in my book. Our discussion at the time was a bit heated, since I personally knew the escort and had recommended him. When we were finished arguing, I walked away and realized I had just ended a friendship. I'm a door closer...when someone doesn't conduct themselves the way that makes me feel comfortable, then I'm done... stiffing escorts is a disgusting thing to do.

[Steven_Draker]

I think most of us operate with a level of integrity that just seems to escape those that think being unscrupulous is somehow OK ... stiffing escorts is a disgusting thing to do

 

Please define "integrity" and "unscrupulous".

 

Have you ever thought that a certain Thanos Oxford felt the same way when he opened the door and 'someone' walked away without a word?

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?89618

 

Let's talk about integrity ~

[bigvalboy]

Please define "integrity" and "unscrupulous".

 

Have you ever thought that a certain Thanos Oxford felt the same way when he opened the door and 'someone' walked away without a word?

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?89618

 

Let's talk about integrity ~[/color]

 

 

lol lol.... Aaahhh a wolf in sheeps clothing. The shepard should always be vigilant. I shall not make that mistake again...

[Bosguy]

Please define "integrity" and "unscrupulous".

 

Have you ever thought that a certain Thanos Oxford felt the same way when he opened the door and 'someone' walked away without a word?

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?89618

 

Let's talk about integrity ~[/color]

 

HOORAY STEVEN!!!! Once again your intelligence and remarkable ability to read people has shown reality versus perception. Strange, how many people are drawn into perception prior to reality

 

PS I won't PM you

 

Boston Bill