screwed by escort and not in a good way

[Steven_Draker]

As to hiring someone else, its not really an option because I do not feel able to establish a comfort level with a new escort in the course of two months that I would be confident with spending 10 nights together in hotels and a tiny cabin.

 

I can totally understand your apprehension.

 

You have to ask yourself: Do you want to be on that cruise ...?

 

[video=youtube;RkoylJdPPLM]

[tyro]

Steven! That almost made me seasick.

T

[unsub2O17]

I thought that ship was going to pull an "Andrea Doria"! But back to DTB, if CE is serious, GRAB HIM!!!!!

[down_to_business]

Umm, I'd love to go. Gotta call me first, though.

 

Wow that was pretty awesome. Thanks very much. If I ever feel confident enough to do a trip like this again, you will be one of the very first people I talk to.

 

End result is that I cancelled the trip earlier this afternoon. It cost me roughly $1500 when all was said and done, but I did get the rest back. A little sad, but I am at peace with my decision.

 

@unsub - whether or not he was serious he is awesome

 

@SD- I do get seasick!!!

 

@ everyone- GET TRIP INSURANCE that includes cancellation if you need to rely on anyone else!!! Another lesson learned.

[Guest Wetnwildbear]

Snore Remedy for Hot Nights

 

BREATH RIGHT EXTRA STRENGTH STRIPS === 24 Strips -- 9.99 at TARGET ==== Better sleep for you and no disturbance for your companion == Bonus - Sexy Flairing Nostrils Telling Him I HAVE TO HAVE YOU NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Guess I was needing to vent more than anything else. It is a disaster but I agree there are much worse disasters. I spoke with a few friends etc. and that avenue is now exhausted.

 

As to hiring someone else, its not really an option because I do not feel able to establish a comfort level with a new escort in the course of two months that I would be confident with spending 10 nights together in hotels and a tiny cabin. Having once did that (a 7 night Caribbean cruise) with someone that did not work out- it was not a pleasant experience. Add the fact that I am feeling rather untrusting that anyone honors their obligations right now-- well I just don't personally know anyone well enough to trust at this point. If I can't count on a well reviewed escort with whom I had an established relationship, how am I supposed to trust someone I have never met before? Unlike some of you- just because I read about someone else having a good experience with an escort, doesn't mean I will too. My worst hiring experience ever was someone very well reviewed on the website. I just can't do it.

 

Anyways, I know that is my problem and not yours. I have until the end of the month to make a final decision when the cancellation penalties increase from 50% to 75%. I will give it a lot more thought-- just to ensure I am not making a hasty decision in anger. I guess my opinion right now fits this:

 

Main Entry: money pit

Part of Speech: n

Definition: any entity or venture which requires much money for maintenance and drains financial resources

 

I think my trip has become a money pit.

 

Again-- thanks for the sympathy.

 

 

Actually- upon deep reflection, I do have prior experience with JLA and trust him completely... if only my "alleged " snoring didn't bother him so much. I guess that wouldn't work as he would more than likely smother me by the 4th night.

[+ FreshFluff]

It is definitely a disappointment, especially since you were looking forward to being with this particular guy. I'm really sorry you had to cancel, DTB.

 

Traveling alone is not that bad though; I do it often. A few years ago, I traveled from Rome to Florence to Venice to London and then to Cannes for the film festival (for which I had a borrowed, low-level pass). Then there are my trips to my favorite city in the south. There were times when I wished I had been with someone, but for the most part, I had a great time. The advantage is that you can do what you want, when you want.

[Irtwo]

obviously they cannot get on the ship.

 

I didn't realize that, you can't bring guests aboard when the ship is in port?

[bostonnycguy]

I have to say this is saddest thread I've read in a long, long time. The poster is upset because the escort cancelled 2 MONTHS in advance! 2 MONTHS! I think that's giving any normal person MORE THAN ENOUGH time to make other plans - first off I'm surprised the escort in question even booked something so far in advance....things happen, situations change....that's life. To accuse the escort of "screwing" you with this cancellation is childish and not correct. I'd say he gave you MORE THAN ENOUGH notice - again...2 MONTHS!

 

Get a life.

[jon1265]

Well, when you put out that kind of money, I would say it most definitely is screwing them over. But, you are dealing with a very fluid industry where a guy can wake up one day and basically say "I am done" and just disappear.

[down_to_business]

I have to say this is saddest thread I've read in a long, long time. The poster is upset because the escort cancelled 2 MONTHS in advance! 2 MONTHS! I think that's giving any normal person MORE THAN ENOUGH time to make other plans - first off I'm surprised the escort in question even booked something so far in advance....things happen, situations change....that's life. To accuse the escort of "screwing" you with this cancellation is childish and not correct. I'd say he gave you MORE THAN ENOUGH notice - again...2 MONTHS!

 

Get a life.

 

Thanks for your compassion.

 

Airfare change would have been an additional charge of $1200+ alone, additional charges if I needed to change my flight as well (name changes required cancellation and new booking at prevailing rate)

Contract of carriage of cruise specified a change penalty for changes to passenger(s) made after June 5th, no changes at all permitted after a rapidly approaching date and I didn't have any one else vetted for this trip-- escorts are not interchangeable fill in the blank items (at least to me)-- and many wouldn't even consider a 10 day booking for a first meeting (I know I wouldn't).

other charges not able to determine (i.e. difference in rates)

 

So I was looking at a minimum of an additional $1500 in charges for this trip with no guarantee that the next guy wouldn't cancel. If you have spare thousands laying around to pay change and cancellation fees, more power to you. I did not. that is why I only booked this trip with someone I knew well and trusted and even had good reviews. I wouldn't have even booked my once in a lifetime vacation without having everything planned out and agreed upon. For me to even get 3 weeks off work took so much sacrifice. In the end, it was all for nothing but an expensive lesson.

[bigvalboy]

Thanks for your compassion.

 

Airfare change would have been an additional charge of $1200+ alone, additional charges if I needed to change my flight as well (name changes required cancellation and new booking at prevailing rate)

Contract of carriage of cruise specified a change penalty for changes to passenger(s) made after June 5th, no changes at all permitted after a rapidly approaching date and I didn't have any one else vetted for this trip-- escorts are not interchangeable fill in the blank items (at least to me)-- and many wouldn't even consider a 10 day booking for a first meeting (I know I wouldn't).

other charges not able to determine (i.e. difference in rates)

 

So I was looking at a minimum of an additional $1500 in charges for this trip with no guarantee that the next guy wouldn't cancel. If you have spare thousands laying around to pay change and cancellation fees, more power to you. I did not. that is why I only booked this trip with someone I knew well and trusted and even had good reviews. I wouldn't have even booked my once in a lifetime vacation without having everything planned out and agreed upon. For me to even get 3 weeks off work took so much sacrifice. In the end, it was all for nothing but an expensive lesson.

 

I agree with you 100% DtoB. I think that there is no question he "screwed you"...I don't care how much notice he gave. Lost money is lost money, period. All of us have different personalities, and going to "plan B" as it were, is not always feasible.

 

I have always been unclear if you are able to write a review if no meeting took place. Admin will have that answer, I would check with Daddy or deej, but if you are able to, I would without a doubt write a review and document what happened. Escorts routinely come and go from escorting, so there is a chance that he will return. If he does, that fact that he did this to a client should be there for all to see.

[IntoHotGuys]

If I were the escort, I wouldn't have confirmed anything that far out in advance no matter HOW GOOD MY INTENTION WAS. Not only didn't I score any point with the client, and god forbid should my grandpa were about to drop dead and I had to cancel 2 MONTHS IN ADVANCE, it will all be ON ME! IT'S STUPID TRYING TO BE NICE.

[Guest verymarried]

I wrote a review of one of the favorite international escorts on this site who was a no show in Dallas and cost me much time, effort and money; and this site would not allow my review to be published because the meeting never happened.

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

I have to say this is saddest thread I've read in a long, long time. The poster is upset because the escort cancelled 2 MONTHS in advance! 2 MONTHS! I think that's giving any normal person MORE THAN ENOUGH time to make other plans - first off I'm surprised the escort in question even booked something so far in advance....things happen, situations change....that's life. To accuse the escort of "screwing" you with this cancellation is childish and not correct. I'd say he gave you MORE THAN ENOUGH notice - again...2 MONTHS!

 

Get a life.

 

Gotta agree here with BostonNYCguy. Two months advance notice is plenty.

 

Another thing, it really annoys me when an anonymous poster can sit behind a keyboard and tell the world how badly he "was screwed" without providing the escort's name. Escorts retire and unretire all the time. What's your reluctance to name him? Perhaps he is someone with with a pristine reputation or has friends here who would be able to shed a different light on your tale of woe.

 

If you're unwilling to name the escort, I don't give your story any credence or you any sympathy. You wanna play the victim card? Fine, I challenge you to name the guy who victimized you. If not, then don't look for any compassion here.......

 

Bozo

[bigvalboy]

Gotta agree here with BostonNYCguy. Two months advance notice is plenty.

 

Another thing, it really annoys me when an anonymous poster can sit behind a keyboard and tell the world how badly he "was screwed" without providing the escort's name. Escorts retire and unretire all the time. What's your reluctance to name him? Perhaps he is someone with with a pristine reputation or has friends here who would be able to shed a different light on your tale of woe.

 

If you're unwilling to name the escort, I don't give your story any credence or you any sympathy. You wanna play the victim card? Fine, I challenge you to name the guy who victimized you. If not, then don't look for any compassion here.......

 

Bozo

 

Naming names would have put the post in the realm of a review, and that is against the TOS. Further, I see no problem with a member coming to the forum to simply post a bad experience without naming names, it happens all the time. I didn't get the impression he was looking for sympathy, but rather to vent frustration. Part of the reason we are here, I thought. I found his post most credible, especially since I felt the OP was looking for advice as to what he should do going forward.

[down_to_business]

Gotta agree here with BostonNYCguy. Two months advance notice is plenty.

 

Another thing, it really annoys me when an anonymous poster can sit behind a keyboard and tell the world how badly he "was screwed" without providing the escort's name. Escorts retire and unretire all the time. What's your reluctance to name him? Perhaps he is someone with with a pristine reputation or has friends here who would be able to shed a different light on your tale of woe.

 

If you're unwilling to name the escort, I don't give your story any credence or you any sympathy. You wanna play the victim card? Fine, I challenge you to name the guy who victimized you. If not, then don't look for any compassion here.......

 

Bozo

 

This isn't a review or an attempt to back-handedly review anyone. I am not going to turn it into that either.

I needed to vent and I needed to think things through and that's exactly what my post allowed me to do.

Good day sir. I said good day.

[bostonnycguy]

he was looking for sympathy - the whole post was "whoa is me...." If he really was looking for ideas on solving the problem he wouldn't have cancelled the trip 48 hours after he posted (on a Friday no less) - my initial response stands...TWO MONTHS is plenty of time for anyone to legitimately cancel plans - business or personal. If fact, I give the escort bonus points for cancelling with so much notice....he could easily have waited until closer to the trip. Based on the posters details and crying about the situation, I'd say the escort was smart to cancel this trip. Can you image ten days with this poster should any little thing not go his way?!?! Nightmare! This was not going to end well no matter what the situation.

[bigvalboy]

he was looking for sympathy - the whole post was "whoa is me...." If he really was looking for ideas on solving the problem he wouldn't have cancelled the trip 48 hours after he posted (on a Friday no less) - my initial response stands...TWO MONTHS is plenty of time for anyone to legitimately cancel plans - business or personal. If fact, I give the escort bonus points for cancelling with so much notice....he could easily have waited until closer to the trip. Based on the posters details and crying about the situation, I'd say the escort was smart to cancel this trip. Can you image ten days with this poster should any little thing not go his way?!?! Nightmare! This was not going to end well no matter what the situation.

 

Well you are wrong of course....but you are entitled to your opinion. Moving on!!

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

This isn't a review or an attempt to back-handedly review anyone. I am not going to turn it into that either.

I needed to vent and I needed to think things through and that's exactly what my post allowed me to do.

Good day sir. I said good day.

 

 

"Forum: The Deli

An area to discuss Escorts."

 

The above was taken directly from the homepage of this thread. If you are going to post an experience, near-experience or whatever you may choose to call your "getting screwed" by an escort, you add absolutely nothing to this thread or your story by failing to mention his name. I still insist there is a reason for your decision not to name him, and I'll bet that's cause there is a lot more here than the selective details you choose to share.

 

I agree with Boston NYCguy, the thought of spending ten days on a ship with the OP, would make me wanna cancel too.......

[chelseanyc]

As someone who has a degree of social phobia, I can see both points of view (the OP's and Bozo/Boston's). Both points of view sadden me: Bozo/Boston because they show a lack of empathy for someone who is wired mentally/emotionally very differently from themselves, and the OP because he seems to have given up.

 

My story, briefly: I am somewhat inarticulate with an occasional stutter to the point that I am anxious in social situations. I think I may be high functioning Asperger's (when I was growing up, I never would look people in the eye; and had to teach myself as an adult to, even though it makes me uncomfortable.) I've never had a long term relationship or anyone who I could call a best friend. But I wanted more out of life so by working in the safe environment of a therapy group, and also working with a cognitive behavioral therapist, I've become more comfortable with myself and have been able to make a few friends who accept me as I am. (A psychopharmacologist had suggested I go onto an anti-depressant for my social anxiety; I decided not to, but I think it's a viable option for some.) It's been a lot of work; the behavioral therapist had me do weekly homework assignments like initiating conversations with people at the bus stop, or going to a bar alone, etc. - things that would terrify me. But these experiences helped me grow. On top of that, over the years, I've gotten to know a few really wonderful escorts. They've helped me come out of my shell further and given me confidence.

 

Although the trip cancellation may have been unavoidable given the OP's current interpersonal barriers, I hope he will spend some time considering what he wants out of life and perhaps one day, with a little or lot of work behind him, he will be at a point where he would be open to trying some of the suggestions that have been offered in this thread. Life's too short to be so sad and angry.

[Nvr2Thick]

Another thing, it really annoys me when an anonymous poster can sit behind a keyboard and tell the world how badly he "was screwed" without providing the escort's name. Escorts retire and unretire all the time. What's your reluctance to name him? Perhaps he is someone with with a pristine reputation or has friends here who would be able to shed a different light on your tale of woe.

 

I admire that he's chosen not to name the escort. Any benefit the escort's name would provide would be more than offset by the on-forum dishing. And since posters do remain anonymous it's impressive that he is focusing on the situation and not making it personal in spite of the fact that he believes he's been screwed.

[+ WilliamM]

As someone who has a degree of social phobia, I can see both points of view (the OP's and Bozo/Boston's). Both points of view sadden me: Bozo/Boston because they show a lack of empathy for someone who is wired mentally/emotionally very differently from themselves, and the OP because he seems to have given up.

 

My story, briefly: I am somewhat inarticulate with an occasional stutter to the point that I am anxious in social situations. I think I may be high functioning Asperger's (when I was growing up, I never would look people in the eye; and had to teach myself as an adult to, even though it makes me uncomfortable.) I've never had a long term relationship or anyone who I could call a best friend. But I wanted more out of life so by working in the safe environment of a therapy group, and also working with a cognitive behavioral therapist, I've become more comfortable with myself and have been able to make a few friends who accept me as I am. (A psychopharmacologist had suggested I go onto an anti-depressant for my social anxiety; I decided not to, but I think it's a viable option for some.) It's been a lot of work; the behavioral therapist had me do weekly homework assignments like initiating conversations with people at the bus stop, or going to a bar alone, etc. - things that would terrify me. But these experiences helped me grow. On top of that, over the years, I've gotten to know a few really wonderful escorts. They've helped me come out of my shell further and given me confidence.

 

Although the trip cancellation may have been unavoidable given the OP's current interpersonal barriers, I hope he will spend some time considering what he wants out of life and perhaps one day, with a little or lot of work behind him, he will be at a point where he would be open to trying some of the suggestions that have been offered in this thread. Life's too short to be so sad and angry.

 

Thank you for such a wonderful post. I agree that cancelling was the best thing to do. Two weeks on a ship by myself with strangers would be difficult for me as well, and I enjoy talking to people whom I do not not know.

 

To down-to-business: If you do well in Vegas, it's not a huge jump to eventually visit a Northern European city (Berlin, Stockholm) by yourself for ten days where people are friendly and speak English. (Actually almost everyone in European cities speaks English, even in some Eastern European countries.) You may not meet life-long friends, but most hotels serve breakfast so that's a start in meeting people. Also, there are gay cafes where age differences are not a huge problem in striking up a conversation.

 

If you find a cafe you like, stop in once a day for coffee; you will meet people, if only the folks who work there. It's a start, especially if you begin to really like the city. And you have a ready subject: the United States. Most European countries show American shows and movies on TV, so most everyone is interested in what the U.S. is really like especially New York and LA.

[tyro]

Chelseanyc, thank you.

T

[BSR]

I don't understand the harshness toward the original poster, nor the demands that OP reveal the name of the escort's name. If the escort is retired, what the hell difference does it make to anybody? I guess there's always the chance that the escort might un-retire. If that happens, then the *dripping sarcasm* enormous demographic of clients who book extended vacations but can't deal with cancellation 2 months in advance are at great peril because they are unaware of the escort's identity.

 

to DTB, I can understand your disappointment, certainly. You had your dream vacation planned, then *BOOM* your travel companion cancels on you, and you had to eat some of the cost, not to mention deal with the disappointment. But I think you're being a bit harsh to the escort who cancelled on you. First of all, two months is a heckuva lot of advance notice, more than enough time for the vast majority of clients to find someone else. You're not wired that way, and I respect that, but you really shouldn't be angry at the escort for failing to follow through. Yes, he made a commitment to you, and yes, I'm sure he was well aware of all you had invested, financially & emotionally, in these vacation plans. But like John Lennon said, life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. In other words, the escort fully intended to honor his commitment, until a major life change occurred. People leave their jobs, quit their professions, and make huge career changes all the time. Their bosses/companies are lucky to get two weeks' notice, forget two months.

 

DTB, I'm guessing that by now you've picked yourself up and dusted yourself off. When the disappointment fades, hopefully you can find another suitable escort, and your dream vacation can still happen. Good luck.

[bigvalboy]

As someone who has a degree of social phobia, I can see both points of view (the OP's and Bozo/Boston's). Both points of view sadden me: Bozo/Boston because they show a lack of empathy for someone who is wired mentally/emotionally very differently from themselves, and the OP because he seems to have given up.

 

My story, briefly: I am somewhat inarticulate with an occasional stutter to the point that I am anxious in social situations. I think I may be high functioning Asperger's (when I was growing up, I never would look people in the eye; and had to teach myself as an adult to, even though it makes me uncomfortable.) I've never had a long term relationship or anyone who I could call a best friend. But I wanted more out of life so by working in the safe environment of a therapy group, and also working with a cognitive behavioral therapist, I've become more comfortable with myself and have been able to make a few friends who accept me as I am. (A psychopharmacologist had suggested I go onto an anti-depressant for my social anxiety; I decided not to, but I think it's a viable option for some.) It's been a lot of work; the behavioral therapist had me do weekly homework assignments like initiating conversations with people at the bus stop, or going to a bar alone, etc. - things that would terrify me. But these experiences helped me grow. On top of that, over the years, I've gotten to know a few really wonderful escorts. They've helped me come out of my shell further and given me confidence.

 

Although the trip cancellation may have been unavoidable given the OP's current interpersonal barriers, I hope he will spend some time considering what he wants out of life and perhaps one day, with a little or lot of work behind him, he will be at a point where he would be open to trying some of the suggestions that have been offered in this thread. Life's too short to be so sad and angry.

 

Excellent insight into the difficulty that many share socially. I thought that DtoB articulated his concerns beautifully. Most here got a sense of what he was struggling with....Kudos to you for elaborating, it helps many of us understand that indeed we are all wired differently.