Always safe?

[Tighty]

In some websites there is a field called 'safe sex' where escorts can choose something like 'sometimes' or 'always safe'. I know people can lie and we should assume that that they do not always do and can in fact be positive and lie about it as well. Between an escort that writes sometimes safe versus someone who writes always safe but there are allegations from this board that it's not true, who would you choose? And what does always safe mean anyway? if he always wrap up with clients but barebacks with his bf, does it count as always safe?

[+ azdr0710]

hey Tight!....now you're red!!

 

I barely even look at that field....as many here will tell you, always assume the worst and do what YOU can to protect yourself....pretty simple nowadays....

[Tighty]

Thanks az. I like the color red very much. Not that I'm into fisting. Thanks for the advice. I'm just very troubled by something I read. I'll make a new thread.

[+ Tygerscent]

My previous partner and I had this understanding: protect yourself, your future partners and your "in the moment" partner.

Protect, (in one way or another), for both you and future partners... Make it work so that everyone is safe as you are able and know how...

All kinds of ways to do that. Even with those that don't follow personal safe protocol: you can create the illusion of "raw" without actually going there. Inquire within for tips how~?

 

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[Guy Fawkes]

Daddy's Rules for Unprotected Sex:

 

1) You both agree that this is a monogamous long-term relationship.

2) HIV Test

3) Wait Six Months

4) HIV Test

5) If both are negative, both times, Go for it.

 

OTHERWISE:

 

1) Always act as if one or both of you have the virus. In other works: "Always practice safe sex"

 

(This has been a Daddy public service announcement.)

 

All those that have had an HIV test in the last year, raise your hand!

 

http://bestfolsommortgage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/handsRaised.png

 

 

 

 

In some websites there is a field called 'safe sex' where escorts can choose something like 'sometimes' or 'always safe'. I know people can lie and we should assume that that they do not always do and can in fact be positive and lie about it as well. Between an escort that writes sometimes safe versus someone who writes always safe but there are allegations from this board that it's not true, who would you choose? And what does always safe mean anyway? if he always wrap up with clients but barebacks with his bf, does it count as always safe?

[sfguy]

In some websites there is a field called 'safe sex' where escorts can choose something like 'sometimes' or 'always safe'. I know people can lie and we should assume that that they do not always do and can in fact be positive and lie about it as well. Between an escort that writes sometimes safe versus someone who writes always safe but there are allegations from this board that it's not true, who would you choose? And what does always safe mean anyway? if he always wrap up with clients but barebacks with his bf, does it count as always safe?

I'd choose whichever one I find hotter. And then when setting it up, I'd make it clear that I'm looking for safe sex. We can't be naive and believe everything a guy says about his safe sex practices, particularly because the Internet makes it so easy to lie (just look at the number of fake ads). If you want to be safe, then play safe. There is nothing you can possibly do to know whether another guy, particularly one you've never even met, is honest or not. Guys are so caught up in trying to be safe by figuring out whether the other guys always plays safe. That's the wrong approach because, again, you can never know with certainty what he does with other guys.

 

While it takes two to have sex, it only takes one to be safe. And that's you. You say, "I want to play safe." You'll end up playing safe or you'll walk. The only person who can protect you is you.

[uwsman2]

On the other hand....

 

Strict rule of safety - unless you are in a longterm monogamous relationship in which both of you have been tested and you have good reason to believe that you are both being truthful with each other, always follow safer sex rules. And, since people have been known to slip up, forget, or conveniently "misremember", it's probably a good idea to follower safer sex rules in allegedly monogamous relationships, too.

 

On the other hand, the other day on Advocate.com there was a column by Michael Lucas talking about this new pill that one can take prophylactically that drastically reduces the risk of HIV infection, even if you are barebacking with an infected person. Note that I said "drastically reduces," not "eliminates," so the recommendation if you are taking this pill is to follow safer sex rules as much as possible - and the pill is very expensive, hard to get, and probably not covered by most insurance policies, since most insurance policies only cover drugs for treatment, not for prophylaxis.... So, as a practical matter, this kind of "protection" is only available, at present, to well-connected guys with lost of money to spare. Sigh!!

[Steven_Draker]

... I'd make it clear that I'm looking for safe sex. We can't be naive and believe everything a guy says about his safe sex practices, particularly because the Internet makes it so easy to lie (just look at the number of fake ads). If you want to be safe, then play safe. There is nothing you can possibly do to know whether another guy, particularly one you've never even met, is honest or not. Guys are so caught up in trying to be safe by figuring out whether the other guys always plays safe. That's the wrong approach because, again, you can never know with certainty what he does with other guys.

 

While it takes two to have sex, it only takes one to be safe. And that's you. You say, "I want to play safe." You'll end up playing safe or you'll walk. The only person who can protect you is you.

+ 1

 

All those that have had an HIV test in the last year, raise your hand!

 

http://bestfolsommortgage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/handsRaised.png

 

Last test: July 2013

 

I wish more people could raise their hands here.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

+ 1

 

 

 

Last test: July 2013

 

I wish more people could raise their hands here.

 

I still have the bruise where the evil phlebotomist stuck me the other day. Negatory.

[tom1980]

Tested negative on May 17, 2013. Of course, that test is for my own information so that I can determine whether I need treatment for anything. I would never expect anyone else to act differently with me because I test myself regularly and am negative, just as I would never trust an escort to be honest about his STD status or safe sex practices.

[leigh.bess.toad]

+ 1

 

 

 

Last test: July 2013

 

I wish more people could raise their hands here.

 

http://mmstores.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/raising_hand.gif

 

April 16.

[leigh.bess.toad]

I still have the bruise where the evil phlebotomist stuck me the other day. Negatory.

 

Because you're the delicate little flower type.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

Because you're the delicate little flower type.

 

No, it's more like bitch stabbed me as though she was Tex Watson.

[leigh.bess.toad]

No, it's more like bitch stabbed me as though she was Tex Watson.

 

I'd be willing to come up and kiss it and make the boo boo better if it would help.

[LookingAround]

Been with many escorts who advertised "always safe" who fucked (a third, not me) without a condom without any comment or hesitation.

[sfguy]

No, it's more like bitch stabbed me as though she was Tex Watson.

She only stabbed you once? You're lucky. They usually have to try multiple times with me. Once when I was getting tests done at the free clinic, the nurse tried my left arm, then tried to my right arm, then tried my left arm again. When he started looking at my hands to find a vein there, I was like "No way, no how." So they had me come back the next day and let someone else try. That guy was able to get it on the first try, thankfully.

[Steven_Draker]

They usually have to try multiple times with me ... looking at my hands to find a vein there

 

I usually get a comment from the phlebotomist on duty that it's hard to miss my vein.

[Griffin Donavon]

Been with many escorts who advertised "always safe" who fucked (a third, not me) without a condom without any comment or hesitation.

 

It saddens me that escorts in the industry have no respect for there health or there clients. I've been wearing latex since I started fucking, it's so scary to think about going bare. Besides oral.

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

All those that have had an HIV test in the last year, raise your hand!

 

+1

[Griffin Donavon]

+1

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

She only stabbed you once? You're lucky. They usually have to try multiple times with me. Once when I was getting tests done at the free clinic, the nurse tried my left arm, then tried to my right arm, then tried my left arm again. When he started looking at my hands to find a vein there, I was like "No way, no how." So they had me come back the next day and let someone else try. That guy was able to get it on the first try, thankfully.

 

I'm like Steven, and I have pronounced veins in either arm. She was just a rather unfriendly and brusque person at the whole "let's jab a big needle in this guy's arm" routine. I've had phlebotomists do it without me realizing they had stuck me.

[MalcomXpark]

Tested negative on May 17, 2013. Of course, that test is for my own information so that I can determine whether I need treatment for anything. I would never expect anyone else to act differently with me because I test myself regularly and am negative, just as I would never trust an escort to be honest about his STD status or safe sex practices.

 

and hopefully escorts should never trust a client who wants to bb with an escort.

If you BB is not a matter of if, it's a matter of when will you be infected and become an economic and health burden to society.

[sfguy]

I'm like Steven, and I have pronounced veins in either arm. She was just a rather unfriendly and brusque person at the whole "let's jab a big needle in this guy's arm" routine. I've had phlebotomists do it without me realizing they had stuck me.

My veins are all fairly deep and small. And sometimes when they get the vein, a little blood will start coming out and then stopping. My mother has the same issue. She always demands the best phlebotomist whenever she goes to get blood drawn. I wish I took after my father's side of the family. He and my brothers have pronounced veins.

[leigh.bess.toad]

I usually get a comment from the phlebotomist on duty that it's hard to miss my vein.

 

Phlebotomists get a big smile on their face when they see me because they know it's an easy stick.

[Professor Mitch]

Tough stick here who has learned to hydrate well before having blood drawn...always helps "old one stick" in my primary care office hit it first time every time (tested two weeks ago).