Best escorts in LA for first time bottom

[Guest bluesman]

What escorts in LA are good for someone bottoming for the first time? Looking for someone who knows how to make it a pleasurable experience and not just go through the motions.

[Epigonos]

You might want to contact Steven Kesslar. He currently lives in Palm Springs and you might be able to work something out. You couldn't find a better guy to work with in this area. Besides which he is one hell of a nice guy and great fun to spend time with both in and out of bed.

[steve]

Check out JLA....I recommend him. He's a great top and will make sure it's a good experience for you as well.

 

I highly recommend JLA - very handsome, hung big and great personality.

[bigvalboy]

I second JLA...He is far more handsome than his pics would indicate, and 6'3 and 200 + lbs, and solid as a rock. He is extremely personable but most importantly he is an amazing top, and VERY into making sure that the client is having a good time. Once he gets plugged into what gets you going, he will skillfully take you to the edge and back several times....

 

http://www.men4rentnow.com/ds/availablenow.asp?cmd=view&id=277269&Login=Jaker88

 

OR...mailto:jp5726@yahoo.com

[Rod Hagen]

What escorts in LA are good for someone bottoming for the first time? Looking for someone who knows how to make it a pleasurable experience and

not just go through the motions.

 

Someone here in West Hollwyood, can't remember his name, on the tip of my tongue... :-)

[MrBigTL]

Spencer Whitman or his lover Evan Lance or hire them together and have a total blast for your first time. I highly recommend them both.

[bigvalboy]

Spencer Whitman or his lover Evan Lance or hire them together and have a total blast for your first time. I highly recommend them both.

 

FYI...Spencer has issues with ethnicity. All depends on your take on things.

[MrBigTL]

Really? I never noticed that from my time with him. He is ethnically mixed himself so not sure what you are saying here............

[discreet]

Really? I never noticed that from my time with him. He is ethnically mixed himself so not sure what you are saying here............

 

it means he doesn't have sex with certain ethnic people, it has nothing to do with his own race lol

[discreet]

Really? I never noticed that from my time with him. He is ethnically mixed himself so not sure what you are saying here............

 

a good example would be he can have sex with any old creepy dirty white/latino/middle eastern man when paid but he chooses not to have sex with a black/indian/asian man even if the guy is hot and willing to pay. Not sure how it is considered in his professionalism but that is the fact

[bigvalboy]

a good example would be he can have sex with any old creepy dirty white/latino/middle eastern man when paid but he chooses not to have sex with a black/indian/asian man even if the guy is hot and willing to pay. Not sure how it is considered in his professionalism but that is the fact

 

Thank you for elaborating discreet. I unfortunately found all of this out the hard way....

[MscleLovr]

Sorry to read that, BVB. I was considering hiring Spencer W but as I'm a middle-aged white man, do you feel that I am likely to be equally disappointed?

[+ Gar1eth]

a good example would be he can have sex with any old creepy dirty white/latino/middle eastern man when paid but he chooses not to have sex with a black/indian/asian man even if the guy is hot and willing to pay. Not sure how it is considered in his professionalism but that is the fact

 

It's not that I condone discrimination. I don't. But this job/profession/avocation of escorting hits so close to what the escort does on a personal basis. I just don't know. It seems to me that if there is a type you know you aren't attracted to on a personal basis, and you know that you wouldn't be able to get beyond those feelings in a paid basis either--then this might be one of those cases where discrimination is ok to practice. I mean I would hate to end up hiring an escort who totally hated my type--either physique or ethnicity. It probably would lead to a not very fulfilling session for me. And as clients we do discriminate with our wants to. I mean for most of us there are escorts we would never hire for reasons such as to include race, physiques, looks, habits/practices, etc etc, etc.

 

Gman

[bigvalboy]

Sorry to read that, BVB. I was considering hiring Spencer W but as I'm a middle-aged white man, do you feel that I am likely to be equally disappointed?

 

My guess is that you would be fine...

[bigvalboy]

It's not that I condone discrimination. I don't. But this job/profession/avocation of escorting hits so close to what the escort does on a personal basis. I just don't know. It seems to me that if there is a type you know you aren't attracted to on a personal basis, and you know that you wouldn't be able to get beyond those feelings in a paid basis either--then this might be one of those cases where discrimination is OK to practice. I mean I would hate to end up hiring an escort who totally hated my type--either physique or ethnicity. It probably would lead to a not very fulfilling session for me. And as clients we do discriminate with our wants to. I mean for most of us there are escorts we would never hire for reasons such as to include race, physiques, looks, habits/practices, etc etc, etc.

 

Gman

 

While I completely understand your point of view Gman, I also disagree with you. The last time this subject came up, a firestorm erupted on the forum, with members emotionally split in two camps. I'm not going there again... I posted that information only to warn those that might have an issue with his policy. Nothing more nothing less. I don't much have the stomach for a long dissertation on whether this is a matter of racism or simply a matter of personal preference. Many escorts have issues with HWP, and I can understand that. So hire him if you choose, but 'discreet' sums the situation up perfectly....

[instudiocity]

Sorry to read that, BVB. I was considering hiring Spencer W but as I'm a middle-aged white man, do you feel that I am likely to be equally disappointed?

He was hot and wonderful many times with this middle-aged overweight white man...read my review.

[instudiocity]

It's not that I condone discrimination. I don't. Gman

Gman, I'd have to take issue of your use of 'discrimination' in the matter of escorts preferences. We do have a Constitution right to freedom of association and none of us are required to check our preferences at the door when it comes to with whom we get naked and with whom we shall not.

 

To take away an escort's right to have his preferences is discriminating, not his expression of his preferences in a service oriented business.

 

An escort's intimacy is a far cry from a 'White's Only' lunch counter in Selma Alabama in 1963, in my mind.

[Strafe13]

I can vouch that both JLA and Rod Hagen are very good at what they do, and you should have a good time with either (or both!).

 

However, as awesome as JLA is,* I don't know if he'd be ideal for a first-time bottom. Don't get me wrong, he's very skilled. But he's also very well endowed. For one's first time, you may want to build your way up to that. On the other hand, I have no doubt he knows how to handle himself so the bottom isn't hurt or anything like that. But you may not want to take your first swimming lesson in the deep end of the pool, if you get my drift.

 

Plus, there's the corollary harm of inadvertently becoming a size Queen if you start off bottoming for a really large guy and it goes well. It kinda ruins you for other men. I speak from personal experience. ;-)

 

*Seriously, I want to bear his children, do his laundry, cook his meals, maintain his home, and otherwise be Mrs. JLA, circa 1950. <3

[Strafe13]

Gman, I'd have to take issue of your use of 'discrimination' in the matter of escorts preferences. We do have a Constitution right to freedom of association and none of us are required to check our preferences at the door when it comes to with whom we get naked and with whom we shall not.

 

To take away an escort's right to have his preferences is discriminating, not his expression of his preferences in a service oriented business.

 

An escort's intimacy is a far cry from a 'White's Only' lunch counter in Selma Alabama in 1963, in my mind.

 

I think you're taking issue with the use of the term "discrimination" because you're misunderstanding its meaning. Both examples you've provided are, in fact, discrimination. More specifically, they're examples of racial discrimination. However, the lunch counter is what's known as impermissible discrimination because it's done in the offering of commercial or professional services to the public, while picking one's romantic & sexual partners has always been thought of as permissible discrimination for the reasons you've touched upon. Admittedly, what escorts do straddles the fence between these areas.

 

I was involved in that last forum discussion that BVB mentioned (that's how he and I became friends), and my position has always been this: we all have our own internal prejudices on a whole host of issues, and they affect how we see the world, including who we're attracted to. Sometimes it can be consciously controlled, sometimes not, and we often don't care to find out because we don't try or never even question it. But if an escort cannot put those issues aside, he should be upfront about it in his ads and marketing, so that the prospective client knows in advance. There is no excuse for the unprofessionalism inherent in the humiliating and demeaning experience of a client finding out for the first time upon meeting the escort that he will be rejected because of his race.

[bigvalboy]

 

*Seriously, I want to bear his children, do his laundry, cook his meals, maintain his home, and otherwise be Mrs. JLA, circa 1950. <3

 

lol lol...If you're going to be Mrs. JLA, can I be the mistress?

[Strafe13]

lol lol...If you're going to be Mrs. JLA, can I be the mistress?

 

Don't know, BVB. I think I'd be a jealous wife. I might have to cut a bitch! :-P

[down_to_business]

I can vouch that both JLA and Rod Hagen are very good at what they do, and you should have a good time with either (or both!).

 

However, as awesome as JLA is,* I don't know if he'd be ideal for a first-time bottom. Don't get me wrong, he's very skilled. But he's also very well endowed. For one's first time, you may want to build your way up to that. On the other hand, I have no doubt he knows how to handle himself so the bottom isn't hurt or anything like that. But you may not want to take your first swimming lesson in the deep end of the pool, if you get my drift. ...

 

Never met RH but I have always liked his very inclusive advertising. I have met JLA and would enthusiastically recommend him for anyone from first time bottom to used and abused size queen JLA is just a totally awesome dude and he is good at making you feel good.

 

People have long argued is it the size of the boat or the motion of the ocean. As previously discussed in other threads, there are guys like JLA who have the skill to not make it hurt.

 

 

To the other point about discriminatory preferences in providing services. If we agree that escorting is a legitimate business it might not be ok. Take for example the Santa Monica California Municipal Code:

 

6.104.090 Requirements for all massage establishments and massage technicians

(ee) All massage establishments must comply with all State and Federal laws and regulations for disabled customers. No massage establishment, operator, responsible employee or massage technician may discriminate or exclude patrons on the basis of race, nationality, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age, or disability.

 

this would lead me to beleive that you can clearly refuse a massge to an ovwerweight person but you could not refuse service to the same person for being a woman or being old etc.

 

Of course in anyones personal life (not businesses and services to the public) you can discriminate for whatever stupid reason you so choose. A legitimate business or service may not have the right to do this.

[Lohengrin1979]

Never met RH but I have always liked his very inclusive advertising. I have met JLA and would enthusiastically recommend him for anyone from first time bottom to used and abused size queen JLA is just a totally awesome dude and he is good at making you feel good.

 

People have long argued is it the size of the boat or the motion of the ocean. As previously discussed in other threads, there are guys like JLA who have the skill to not make it hurt.

 

 

To the other point about discriminatory preferences in providing services. If we agree that escorting is a legitimate business it might not be ok. Take for example the Santa Monica California Municipal Code:

 

6.104.090 Requirements for all massage establishments and massage technicians

(ee) All massage establishments must comply with all State and Federal laws and regulations for disabled customers. No massage establishment, operator, responsible employee or massage technician may discriminate or exclude patrons on the basis of race, nationality, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age, or disability.

 

this would lead me to beleive that you can clearly refuse a massge to an ovwerweight person but you could not refuse service to the same person for being a woman or being old etc.

 

Of course in anyones personal life (not businesses and services to the public) you can discriminate for whatever stupid reason you so choose. A legitimate business or service may not have the right to do this.

 

And that has been the age old argument. Yes, escorts sell companionship as their service but if they want to be treated like a legitimate business, they need to act like it. If there is some large section of the population that they cannot serve for personal reasons, like a certain race, overweight indviduals, or elderly individuals, then they need to reevaluate whether they are a business or something else entirely.

 

As for businesses that discriminate, I think public opinion is showing that it is not to be tolerated. Just observe the recent firestorm with Abercrombie & Fitch and that woman baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. In my opinion, and it is my own, escorts who refuse a certain segment of a population based on their personal prejudice(s), are in the same category as those examples.

 

Lohengrin

[+ Gar1eth]

And that has been the age old argument. Yes, escorts sell companionship as their service but if they want to be treated like a legitimate business, they need to act like it. If there is some large section of the population that they cannot serve for personal reasons, like a certain race, overweight indviduals, or elderly individuals, then they need to reevaluate whether they are a business or something else entirely.

 

As for businesses that discriminate, I think public opinion is showing that it is not to be tolerated. Just observe the recent firestorm with Abercrombie & Fitch and that woman baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. In my opinion, and it is my own, escorts who refuse a certain segment of a population based on their personal prejudice(s), are in the same category as those examples.

 

Lohengrin

 

I didn't mean to restart a firestorm. But while I agree that normal business shouldn't be allowed to discriminate. Whether escorting is legal or not- it's a whole other ball of wax. If escorting is carried through to it's ultimate conclusion- that involves impinging into someone's personal space in a way that not even massage does. It's one thing to say I won't massage you because you are White, Black, Asian, Chartreuse and an entirely different thing to say I am able to kiss and be intimate with everyone. Following that line of reasoning, the escorts should have to take female clients if a female wanted to meet with them.

 

And you know there are legally permissible forms of discrimination in state and out of state college tuitions come to mind.

 

So would it be nice if there were no prejudices in this arena, yes obviously. But having an escort who is uncomfortable performing probably the deepest intimacy there is with a certain type of client is vastly different from refusing to massage someone or refusing to supply flowers or cakes to a same sex wedding.

 

 

And also just as obviously this should be conveyed to the client before the meeting ever occurs.

 

Gman

[bigvalboy]

Don't know, BVB. I think I'd be a jealous wife. I might have to cut a bitch! :-P

 

lol lol lol....