Do I Hire and Escort or Masseur?

[Argos]

I have been reviewing this message board for a couple of months, and it appears there is a recurring theme about escorts charging to much for their services, or clients trying to "negotiate" the escort fee. I don't want to go there, but I do have a question regarding whether the services I am looking for are really better suited for an escort or masseur.

 

I want to get together with a man who can provide a great massage, some mutual body contast, kissing, nipple play and a release. I am not interested in ANYTHING else. I recognize many escorts do not offer massage services but there appear to be several that do. Is it unreasonable for me to expect someone who advertises as a "sensual" or "erotic" masseur to include these services in his fee, or are they services that warrant the rate of an escort?

[AaronScottDC]

From what you are looking for, a massage and some extras, you will probably need to hire an escort. In most states/localities in the US, licensed massage therapists are not allowed to kiss, jerk off, or do anything else that is considered sexual. I know many people think of a massage as sexual all by itself, but there are specific rules governing the behavior of licensed masseurs and if they violate them they are subject to lose their license. So, they will probably be reluctant to do what you are looking for when hired for a "legitimate massage".

 

Therefore, I suggest you hire an escort. However, as you mentioned in your post, choose one that advertises that they give massages and that their massage is a decent one. Check the reviews here to get an idea of whether or not other clients were satisfied with the massage. Some escorts are very skilled in this area and then will also engage in the other activities that you are looking for.

 

I hope you find the guy you are looking for and I hope you have a wonderful time!!

 

 

Aaron Scott DC

http://www.erados.com/AaronScottDC

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/aaronscottdc.html

[phage]

You’re looking for a pretty difficult combination. If you want a “great” massage – hire a masseur and forget the extras. If you must have a sensual massage that includes release, you better figure on an average massage.

 

I’m sure there are a few guys out there giving great massages that include release, but my experience has been that the really good massage therapists don’t need to go the ‘sensual’ route. Your odds of finding that combination are going to be pretty slim.

 

Throw kissing into the mix and you are really asking for a lot from a massage session. (There’s a reason why they cost less than an escort session.)

 

Good luck on your hunt. If you score this combination, you are living a charmed life and should buy a lottery ticket.

[Rod Hagen]

>I’m sure there are a few guys out there giving great massages

>that include release,

 

http://www.RODHAGEN.com

 

:-)

[ted]

Don't know where you are located off hand, but if you can forego the kissing, Jake @ Jakesbodyworks gives a very good massage, lots of body contact, and release. Most sensual/erotic masseurs will do what you are looking for except for the kissing in a "erotic" session. You may find someone who will kiss after a session or two. With one or two outstanding exceptions, see above most escorts don't give good massages. Look for one who advertises as both and escort and a body worker and you may find your dream. I can think of 2 other than Rod, both of them in LA who run both escort and body worker adds. You can often do a mixed session, an hour of massage and then some play time.

[dick_nyc]

Jim #2 in NYC (see escort reviews) is both a masseur and an escort. I think if you look for those who advertise with two different sets of rates, one for massage and one for escort, you might find the one you look for. If they have a rate for massage, then the writeup should also go into some description as to what the massage consists of. It might start off as a massage and then extend itself into an escort session. You would have to discuss that with the masseur.

[Bilbo]

And if you're in Houston, there's me. I always try to greet my body work clients with a long hug and usually a kiss. And one of my reviews here points out that he released twice in five minutes, which he usually doesn't do, at the end of one of my body work sessions. And, yes, there is that problem with the law. So you probably don't want a "masseur", you want a "body worker". And it would be a good idea if you asked when making the appointment what his training is. If it includes Body Electric, you might still not be talking to a kisser, but you will most likely have found the answer to the rest of your desires. Although, some of their trainees don't give a deep enough massage, so you might want to make sure he's either taken their therapeutic massage classes as well (not the majority of what they teach) or had training elsewhere, too.

 

And do expect a religious/spiritual side to any good erotic body worker. It helps keep them legal. And it pays homage to massage traditions that go way back. Like having been included in the Kama Sutra.

[Guest LOVEHANDLE27]

Sasha, NYC bodyworks offers both escort services and massage and is worth the money. Hunk and straight and can plow like no other. Tried Jake @ jakebodyworks, too fem for me. I like them lean and hard. Sasha can be both.

[Guest LOVEHANDLE27]

"And do expect a religious/spiritual side to any good erotic body worker. It helps keep them legal. And it pays homage to massage traditions that go way back"-Bilbo

 

Snap out of it, Bilbo! Are you looking for either a nun or a priest to get you laid? Cut the crap, queenie, all you need is a good fuck to wake the fucking queerness out of you! Guess you haven't gotten a good one lately!

[+ Axiom2001]

The preceding response cracked me up! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

I found it delightfully funny! Keep up the bantering......

[Donnie]

>I found it delightfully funny!

 

Did you also find it magically delicious?

[Guest LOVEHANDLE27]

I really can't help it but some of the queens here are trying to impress on everyone that they have the "holier than thou" attitude incorporated in their gay life. That despite the real reason that the mighty dick is all that they want, they think they can do their "diva"-ish rhetorics and make me believe that other than sucking a boner from a guy, they also love to experience life to the fullest and experience a "spiritual awakening" in the process of making that dick come. Listen, the only thing "holy"-ish about our lifestyle is that we love to kneel!!! And that's that!!

[Bilbo]

Lovehandlez - Part of my spiritual beliefs is to respect your life path as your life path. I certainly don't agree with you on this, as is obvious, but I am willing to accept and celebrate you. I love diversity. I don't just say I love diversity. I am open to letting you be you and believe that for you, that is truth. (But that doesn't keep me from wishing that you could say the same thing! "There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio ...")

[Rick Munroe]

>some of the queens here are trying

>to impress on everyone that they have the "holier than thou"

>attitude incorporated in their gay life.

 

"Queens"? Anyway, I saw nothing in Bilbo's post that implied that he feels he's better than anyone else. If anyone is acting superior, it's you.

 

>That despite the real reason

>that the mighty dick is all that they want

 

You really think dick is all any gay man wants? I know plenty of guys who have no interest in dick...why do you assume that your desires speak for the rest of us?

 

>they think they can do

>their "diva"-ish rhetorics

 

What was "diva"-ish about Bilbo's post? Maybe there's something wrong with my computer, but I didn't see him dressed in a gown, standing between Mariah & Aretha, as he belted it out. :o

 

>Listen, the only thing "holy"-ish about our lifestyle is

>that we love to kneel!!!

 

I've said this many times in the past: there is no gay lifestyle. If Bilbo is a spiritual person, then that's the way he lives his life and it is no reflection on you or any other gay man. Your pun is cute, but equating being gay with sucking cock is ignorant, especially when said by a gay man. But hey, maybe that's just your lifestyle.

[alanalt]

Not "just a dumb whore"!! ;-)

 

Well Said!!!

 

Alan

[btmstudnyc]

TOOT TOOT...hey BEEP BEEP

 

COOL. Rick, I'd love to see you in the middle of a tantrum...can Derek tape that? It must be so fucking hot to watch you rant and rave.....

 

I'm just doing this post to piss Donnie off.

 

YES...this is JIM#2...thanks DICK ny for pointing me out....I'll give you exactly what you want. Good Massage or Good Escort.

 

Yes, I kneel and worship cock too...as well as ass and pecs....hehe

 

I'll give you either the spiritual...or the nasty. Which do you prefer?

 

JIM

 

Remember...I am Morally and Spiritually BANKRUPT...

 

 

If it dont fit, force it

btmstudnyc@aol.com

[Rick Munroe]

RE: TOOT TOOT...hey BEEP BEEP

 

>Rick, I'd love to see you

>in the middle of a tantrum...

 

Is a tantrum anything like bukkake? If so, I'd love to see me in the middle of one, too. }(

 

>Remember...I am Morally and Spiritually BANKRUPT...

 

Is that how you're filing your taxes this year? :+

[Bilbo]

RE: TOOT TOOT...hey BEEP BEEP

 

I may have missed something on another thread. But Jim at his nastiest is as morally bankrupt as Rick is dumb. Which is, of course, not at all.

[Guest LOVEHANDLE27]

The worst thing known about us gays or queers for that matter, is that we are a bunch of hypocrites! If you would like to be spiritual and not start a discussion, then this site which features dicks and the hunks attached to them and how they perform is not the venue to find spiritual awakening, nor expect a masseur or escort to bring you to a certain spiritual realm. Get real ladies: this is all about dicks and the men that use them to get paid and the gays who pay for them. If you want to foment an agenda similar to that which is cooked in Ms. Monroe's dirty kitchen, then go someplace else! Another poster even said that he knows of queers that don't even like dicks-and you believed that! (By the way, I am the Queen Mother!) Grow up bitch, and Ms. Monroe, (and I always liked your ass)being a whore does not qualify you to be a spokeswoman for a certain group trying to start an idealogy cooked up in your puny brain. This is not going to do your prostituting any good!

[Bilbo]

Silly!! He didn't say that queers don't like dicks. He said that sucking them wasn't the only thing that gay men do with dicks, as your original posting seemed to imply. I think he may have added that playing with their dicks isn't the only thing that gay men do, any way.

 

Are you denying that the Kama Sutra is an ancient holy book, older than the United States? Are you denying that it details what its religion believed was the proper, holy way for a masseur to bring his male client to "release"?

 

Are you ignoring the poetry of the middle ages in which it was shown and celebrated how the love of mundane, earthly things can lead one to the love of God? Again, this happened even before our country was formed.

 

I do belive, though I don't remember exactly where in the Bible, that Jesus is directly quoted as saying that whereever two or more are gathered in His name He is there with them. (I do know that there is nowhere in the gospels where He is directly quoted as saying anything one way or the other about homosexuality.) I think the book of Genesis says that we were created in the image of God. That would include our bodies, perhaps? I do remember gym instructors when I was young would refer to the body as a temple. So, if we choose to consciously worship at our temples, the sacred we seek is there with us.

 

BTW, have you ever actually had a professional erotic massage? (Preferably by a masseur, or a man who is both a good masseur and an escort, not just an escort?)

 

And if you did, and if he asked you to breath with him, were you open minded enough to do it?

[guyinsf]

Kissing with a masseur? Not likely. Nipple play and release -- easy to find with an erotic masseur. Body contact -- maybe, but maybe not in the way you want.

 

It sounds to me like you want to hire an escort, even though what you are interested in doing with one is limited.

[Guest LOVEHANDLE27]

And it's just that: lust. And these queens believe God will be amongst them while they commit the act. Naked and ready to fuck. God hates sin, not the fags that commit them. And it is in the Bible. "The worst thing that can happen to a truth is when you stretch it: then it no longer the truth!" Don't be misled by the fact that because the Kama Sutra has "any" if ever, spiritual reference to a deity does not mean it was referring to the God of the Bible, anyone for that matter can claim this deity just to distort this point. And this had been distorted over time.

[Traveller]

>And it's just that: lust. And these queens believe God will

>be amongst them while they commit the act. Naked and ready to

>fuck. God hates sin, not the fags that commit them. And it

>is in the Bible. "The worst thing that can happen to a truth

>is when you stretch it: then it no longer the truth!" Don't

>be misled by the fact that because the Kama Sutra has "any" if

>ever, spiritual reference to a deity does not mean it was

>referring to the God of the Bible, anyone for that matter can

>claim this deity just to distort this point. And this had been

>distorted over time.

 

 

Holy shit. You speak Non sequitur as well as I do. Are you channelling me again?

 

Later.

 

PS. Letterman: In Iraq they found one of Saddam’s family palaces. Now how many of you have that, your own family palace? (applause) Yeah and here’s what they found inside, they found a private zoo, Prozac and pictures of naked women. It’s sort of like Michael Jackson’s place – except for the naked women.

[Bilbo]

I did not say that the God in the Kama Sutra is necessarily the same God as the God in the Bible. Only that it is a holy book. I suppose that this is the way that you dispute that it is a holy book. And if that works for you, it works for you and as such I honor your feelings. You are fully at liberty to have them. Just make sure you return the honor towards my feelings and give me the liberty to have them.

 

You seem to think that the God of the Bible hates homosexuals. Does this mean that you don't believe in the trinity and don't believe that Jesus Christ is divine? If so, why is the Bible a holy book for you? If you do believe He is divine, then homosexuality must not be something that God feels very strongly about one way or the other, or surely He would have said something about it. Or did the writers forget to directly quote Him about it in the gospels? For I assure you, it is not there.

 

There is an interesting essay that Paul wrote to the Romans. In it, Paul points out that what is a sin for one person is not necessarily a sin for another person. So, it is quite possible that homosexuality would be a sin for you but is not a sin for me. However, Paul goes on to say that it would be a sin for a person (for whom an action would not be a sin) to tempt a person (for whom it would be a sin) to perform that action. Let me make it quite clear that you have no place waiting for you in my bed, and if homosexuality is indeed a sin for you, I strongly advise you to quit reading and posting here so as to avoid the near occaision of sin.

[Donnie]

>Let me make it quite clear that you have no place

>waiting for you in my bed,

 

That would probably be a switch from the way it usually works.