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[Guest Tampa Yankee]

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[Guest pshaw]

>I seem to remember reading an actual scientific study on the

>subject a number of years ago. I seem to remember the

>differences being real, but not as much as many people think.

 

I don't know the source of their information, but this site (http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/sexinfo/?article=teensex&refid=013) had these averages:

 

Asians 4.5 - 5” in length and 1.25” in diameter

Caucasians 5.5 - 6” in length and 1.5” in diameter

Blacks 6.25 - 8” in length and 2” in diameter

 

Since I am heavily into Asian guys, I probably have sampled more Asian cocks than many, the majority of them Southeast Asian (Thai, Vietnamese and Malaysian). A few of the guys had quite large cocks, but I would guess that most of them were were in the 4.5 to 6 inch range and a bit slimmer than most of the white, black or latino guys' cocks I have known. Although I can't recall seeing any advertisements for Asian escorts with 9 or 10 inch cocks, Tommy Tam's 8-incher certainly should meet pierrot's criteria.

 

On the sensitivity issue, I don't regard political correctness as necessarily being a bad thing, especially if one means being respectful of various racial and cultural differences. But for the life of me I don't see how the original question was racist. Pierrot is interested in Asian escorts with big dicks. What's the problem? If someone likes hairy white guys or smooth black men, are they racist as well? And when did "size queen" become an insult? A size queen is someone who likes big cocks. I've yet to meet a size queen who didn't apply the name to himself.

[Rick Munroe]

>he is in fact Pierrot!

 

I guess the jig is up. You're right. Back in August of 2002, I decided to create the handle "pierrot" and then waited 8 months, until April of 2003, to create my first post. I decided to create a post about Asian escorts, hoping that you, Lucky, would accuse me of being racist, so that I could then offer a counterargument, and ultimately pat myself on the back. Gee, sure seemed like a good idea at the time, but I guess you're just too smart for me.

 

>Not the first time Rick

>has created another name to post under!

 

Actually, it's not the first time Rick has been accused of creating another name to post under (as if over 2000 posts hadn't already taken up enough of my time). As I said the last ridiculous time this came up, feel free to contact the administrators of this site if it means that much to you. While I know they won't reveal any personal information to you, I am sure they'd be able to tell you that "pierrot" and my IP addresses are not the same, and that we probably aren't even in the same city.

[+ Lucky]

Reviewing my posts, I never said it was racist. I do think that the intent was to provoke more than question. Everyone once in a while, my chain gets yanked, and this was one of those times!

[VaHawk]

That's me Histrionic Hattie!

 

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[VaHawk]

>And do you really have to belittle him and call him names,

>just because cock size doesn't matter to you? That's so

>childish.

 

Calling someone a size queen is not a belittlement or calling him names. It is a well known "label" used in the gay world, is it not? Just like twink, beefcake, str8looking, etc. I sure noticed that you didn't have any problem attacking the str8looking comment. So, I guess I can consider your comments about that label as childish.

>

 

>He said he finds Asian men attractive, but that more often

>than not they seem to have smaller dicks.

 

That's the great thing about writing, everyone reads their own experiences and interpretations into the written word. I thought and still do, that it was a racist stereoptype, framed as such, and was asking if there was such a thing as an Asian with a large cock?

 

>You guys have no

>problem discussing & analyzing every aspect of an escort's

>anatomy or performance, but if race is brought into it, you

>get bent out of shape (except for when Traveller & DickHo &

>many others constantly talk about Latins & their big

>dicks...you don't seem to mind that "stereotypical racist

>bullshit").

 

Latins? Big dicks? Sometimes, and sometimes not. Which was the whole point of my, yes I admit it tirade! But you know what, sometimes the emphasis of a big muscular buff body or huge cock is such a disservice to the gay population. I liken it to the Barbie doll ideal foisted upon young girls. I DON'T like stereotypes or labels of any kind, because they are based in ignorance, hate and racial intolerance. Of course, that's just my opinion, and nothing anyone says will change my mind about that. Yes, it does as Lucky says "jerk my chain".

[VaHawk]

I just love those posters who dissect every word of another's post. I'm glad my comments gave you a way to while away a few minutes of your life. I'm flattered, but really they weren't worth this much effort.

 

>This was not "racist bullshit" as you so indelicately put it.

>The trouble with a lot of Americans these days is that you've

>been so intimidated by the black minority in your own country

>that you weigh every word that comes out of your mouth in case

>you might offend someone.

 

No, it's called learning to grow as a nation of diverse peoples from all over the world. This imo, is a good thing, and will lead to the day when you look at another person, and see a person, not a "black person" or a "brown person" who you assume is on welfare or a criminal. Hopefully the day will come, when "weighing words" won't be necessary, but I don't think that day is here yet for the U.S.A.

 

>No! It's your last statement that is pure bullshit! So you had

>a black with a small cock and an Asian with a bigie. So what

>does that prove. One can always find an exception to every

>rule.

 

True, but this the whole point is that generalizations are just that, generalizations. To pass of generalizations as the truth is bogus.

 

> But if you think that the average black cock is not

>larger that a white man's and that an Asian's is - once again,

>on average, not smaller than a white man's then you haven't

>been around much.

 

I believe I have been one of the South's biggest sluts! So I have seen thousands, dude, of all races and nationalities. There is not one thing you can tell me about cocks, that I don't know many, many, many, many times over! and that includes Native Americans!

 

>Well if it's OK, than why the fuck are you disparaging him for

>liking big cock and calling him a size queen?

 

Calling someone who is only looking for a big cock is not disparaging him, but size queen is what he is and is an accepted term in the gay world.

 

>I guess you have joined the ranks of HooBoy's anointed forum

>police. Only posts that you find acceptable will be tolerated.

 

Racist stereotypes should not be tolerated in any forum. And imo, that is just what this original post indicated. Yeah, just as I have to tolerate you, then you have to tolerate me. BTW, my brother is governor of Virginia and he appointed me sheriff of this here board so you can just call me Deputy Dawg! http://66.227.101.70/contrib/blackeye/2gunsfiring_v1.gif

[Guest JT]

RE: Cauasian men

 

>>Interesting enough, when I

>>supported you in the past...you

>>didn't say I was just "nitpicking about semantics and trying

>>to create intentions that aren't there." ... I

>>didn't recall you calling me silly neither.

 

>A single statement of "you're being silly" is now considered

>"all kinds of negative attributes"? You don't think you're

>blowing this out of proportion just a bit?

 

Before you made this conclusion, perhaps you should read your own post again. I think the negative attributes with which you have so kindly labelled me are more than just a reference to me "being silly".

 

In all my previous posts, I have not once said you or anyone is racist. All I did was to point out the foolishness of over-generalization and the degrading remark made about Asian being a "thing". My response was to provide other examples (by using the same logic and construct rhetorical questions) and show how unacceptable that is. As I said earlier, it has nothing to do with political correctness.

 

If I hurt your

>feelings, I'm sorry about that; it wasn't my intention.

>However,

 

Should I consider this form of apology a sincere one or...

 

 

>I think that branding pierrot a racist simply

>because,

 

Where did I brand him a racist. I said that the kinds of quesion he asked has more to do with ignorance or stupidity. You may think decribing Asian (or any other race for that matter) as a "thing" is a figure of speech but honestly, how do you know that's his intentions? Are you and pierrot the one and same person? I don't think so.

 

It's also interesting to note that you accused me of "creating intentions that aren't there" (now is that another negative attribute?) and so it seems that you're the only one who can correctly interpret others' intentions. But really, what makes your interpretation more accurate than mine, or for that matter, others'?

 

JT

[Guest JT]

RE: Cauasian men

 

>The guy didn't say "all Asians are things"...he was using a

>figure of speech. It all comes down to how you choose to

>interpret it.

 

Well, why don't you apply the same rule to yourself? It all depends on how YOU interpret it. One can choose to recognize or ignore it as a demeaning statement.

 

 

>Franco refers to my boyfriend as "the slab of

>beef"...should Derek be insulted?

 

Rick, it may be acceptable for you to call yourself a "dumb whore" and you may also say it's just a figure of speech but it doesn't mean that other escorts or people don't find such a label "insulting" when it's used to describe them.

 

 

JT

[Guest JT]

>Well as I expected the political correctness police lost no

>time in condemning me as a racist for even mentioning race.

 

Well, I'm just wondering why no one including you respond to my post # 13. I clearly indicated that your question has nothing to do with political incorrectness. Looking forward to your timely response as you're now standing on the higher "classy" ground.

 

 

 

JT

[VaHawk]

:) I luv this guy, he always makes me smile, but not nearly as much as I'd wager he makes that bf of his smile. LOL, I can tell you from a lifetime of experience that all the myths about cock size and race/nationality/height/foot size/hand size/nose size/etc. are just that "myths". I've been with guys close to 7' tall with average sized cocks and dwarfs (oops is that non-pc, then perhaps I should say "small people") hung like stallions.

[Rick Munroe]

RE: Cauasian men

 

>Rick, it may be acceptable for you to call yourself a "dumb

>whore" and you may also say it's just a figure of speech but

>it doesn't mean that other escorts or people don't find such a

>label "insulting" when it's used to describe them.

 

I've never called anyone a dumb whore.

[Guest BenAJ]

Usually....it is filled }(

[Guest JT]

RE: Cauasian men

 

>>Rick, it may be acceptable for you to call yourself a "dumb

>>whore" and you may also say it's just a figure of speech but

>>it doesn't mean that other escorts or people don't find such

>a

>>label "insulting" when it's used to describe them.

>

>I've never called anyone a dumb whore.

 

I didn't say you did. All I say is that just because you think it's okay for someone to refer Asian with big cocks as a "thing" doesn't mean others don't find it insulting.

 

JT

[foxy]

RE: Cauasian men

 

Any guy with a dick is ok in my book.

[Rick Munroe]

RE: Cauasian men

 

>Any guy with a dick is ok in my book.

 

I'm not much for books; I prefer it in my mouth. :9

[foxy]

RE: Cauasian men

 

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[pierrot]

Since you asked me to reply to your post I will, although it seems beside the point to me. You seem to think that my original post was deliberatly intended to imply a negative generalization. But the question was in fact asking others about their experience and/or knowledge of Asian escorts. The subtext was added by others in the tiresome tradition of pc. But just to show that even the most pc people did, in fact, have thoughts on the subject, I notice that Lucky, after several hysterical denunciations of me, did finally post what he knew about "scientific studies".

By the way, I am not Rick Munroe, although it's a nice fantasy to have his looks. I wouldn't be paying for sex if I did.

[Guest bollocks]

Thanks pshaw for providing a link to some of the USCB survey results. I remeber hearing about the survey 3-5 years ago, but never found any info on it. Pierrot, your posts reveal you as an intelligent, thoughtful person, regardless of what the hysterical and/or racist posters think. Lucky seems to be extremely distrustful of new posters, regardless of their subject matter . As for the others, you seem to know real racist attitudes when you read them. I am very much attracted to Asian men, and I can say that according to my unscientific sampling, Asian men are not quite as well endowed as others AS A GROUP- NOT IN ALL CASES (all caps for those with poor comprehension skills only). I prefer smaller-endowed men, so this is fine with me:9 :9 . Please do not be deterred from posting by the hypersensitive members here, and if you do find any nice talent, please let us know. Best regards, Todd

[VaHawk]

Well excuse all of those posters with POOR COMPREHENSION SKILLS! I'M SURE THEY ALL BOW TO YOUR SUPERIOR INTELLECT AND READING SKILLS. You are certainly entitled to your interpretations but so is everyone else, but you state your point in such a condescending way. :-(

[Guest JT]

>Since you asked me to reply to your post I will, although it

>seems beside the point to me. You seem to think that my

>original post was deliberatly intended to imply a negative

>generalization.

 

I didn't say or imply it was a negative generalization. I said the kind of question you raised has nothing to do with political incorrectness but more to do with ignorance or stupidity. Why no one is able to answer the questions I asked above? Based on the personal experience you have and the logic you used about Asian men, I have constructed two questions. No one seems to be able to respond because deep down they know those questions are either ignorant or stupid.

 

>But the question was in fact asking others

>about their experience and/or knowledge of Asian escorts. The

>subtext was added by others in the tiresome tradition of pc.

 

Please stop using PC as your defense. I've kept pointing out this is not the issue I'm raising here with you. There are different ways of asking questions but you chose to ask in such a way that is insulting to Asians by refering Asians with a big cock as a "thing".

 

>But just to show that even the most pc people did, in fact,

>have thoughts on the subject, I notice that Lucky, after

>several hysterical denunciations of me, did finally post what

>he knew about "scientific studies".

 

Please read carefully what I said and post before responding. Did I in any of my posts debate whether the so-called the "scientific studies" about cock size exist? Please don't try to confuse the issue here. By the way, since you're refering to "scientific studies", do you know that some "scientific studies" have shown that Asians on average more intelligent than Cauasians? Based on these studies, I guess it's okay to say, I find Cauasian man with a brain attractive but wonder does such a thing exist out there?

 

>By the way, I am not Rick Munroe, although it's a nice fantasy

>to have his looks. I wouldn't be paying for sex if I did.

 

As stated above, please read carefully what I said before you reply. I wasn't the person who said Rick and you are the same person. In fact, in one of my replies to Rick, I said I don't think you two are not the same person.

 

JT

[Guest JT]

The last part of the sentence should have read, "I said I DON'T

think you two are the same person.

 

 

JT

[+ Lucky]

"In fact, in one of my replies to Rick, I said I don't think you two are not the same person. "

 

And, FYI, I didn't quote any scientific studies!

[Guest JT]

>Thanks pshaw for providing a link to some of the USCB survey

>results. I remeber hearing about the survey 3-5 years ago, but

>never found any info on it. Pierrot, your posts reveal you as

>an intelligent, thoughtful person, regardless of what the

>hysterical and/or racist posters think. Lucky seems to be

>extremely distrustful of new posters, regardless of their

>subject matter . As for the others, you seem to know real

>racist attitudes when you read them. I am very much attracted

>to Asian men, and I can say that according to my unscientific

>sampling, Asian men are not quite as well endowed as others AS

>A GROUP- NOT IN ALL CASES (all caps for those with poor

>comprehension skills only). I prefer smaller-endowed men, so

>this is fine with me:9 :9 . Please do not be deterred from

>posting by the hypersensitive members here, and if you do find

>any nice talent, please let us know. Best regards, Todd

 

The hypersensitive members seem to be you and others who can not respond to the issue I raised, and hence, either resort to using political correctness or labelling others as racist. Another strategy was to divert readers' attention so as to confuse the issue being raised by me. I has not been debating whether Asians have smaller or bigger cocks. This is not the issue. So please stop trying to pretend for one minute that is the issue in question.

 

If you're intelligent enough to say that generalization at best gives us an average "observation", then what is the point of the first poster asking the question in the first place? Does it make sense then among the Asian population (despite on average has smaller endowment, according to the so-called "scientific studies") there are men who has a cock size of 1, 2, 3 or even 4 standard deviation from the mean? Would it be logical to infer that these PEOPLE exist? So what is the point of asking the question whether such a THING (i.e. Asian with a big cock) exists?

 

After all, the person with poor reading and comprehension skills seems to be you. As I said earlier, there are studies that show Asians like Japanese and Hong Kong Chinese have higher IQ and bigger brain than Cauasians. Perhaps one can say "I find Cauasian man with a brain hot but wonder whether such a thing exists".

 

BTW, does anyone notice after some people make racist comments about African Americans they often say that, oh yeah. I know some African Americans as friends, neighbours, coworkers, etc.?

 

 

JT

[Rick Munroe]

RE: the Asian thing

 

>All I did was to point out the foolishness of

>over-generalization and the degrading remark made about Asian

>being a "thing".

 

If you think his remark was degrading, I think it might reflect your own feelings of insecurity. But I'm no therapist.

 

>You may think decribing Asian (or any other race for that

>matter) as a "thing" is a figure of speech

 

I'm not alone in thinking that. (I know I shouldn't continue this, but I can't resist.) I just did a quick google search & found dozens of links to sites where Asians themselves use the word "thing" when referring to their race. Besides the hundreds of cases of use of the expression "the Asian thing" or "it's an Asian thing", here's an example from http://www.asian-nation.org: "...I define 'Asian Americans' as the population living in the U.S. who personally identify themselves as having Asian or Pacific Islander ancestry... I also use the following terms to mean the same [font color=red

][big]thing[/big][/font]: Asian American, Asian, Asian Pacific American (APA), and Asian Pacific Islander (API)." I also came across an article from the Toronto Star, written by a Canadian Sikh of Punjabian descent, entitled, "No such [font color=red

][big]thing[/big][/font] as South Asian." And an article from http://www.asianamerican.net that says, "Before the late '60s there was no such [font color=red

][big]thing[/big][/font] as an 'Asian American.'" OK, Detective Rick is done with his investigation. :+

 

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