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When an escorts advertises and states a fee and then says prices are negotiable, what is he really saying? Does he expect the client to try to bargin for a lower price. I would be hesitant to request a lower fee. Then the service may not be as good. Working guys please comment.

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This is a difficult question to answer. Most escorts will try and stay firm on their rates. I try to be fairly reasonable when dealing with someone who tries to bargain for a lower price. I ask myself, "Is he trying to get more than the average client for less?" If the answer is no, then I'll honor the lower rate within reason. Usually, it is a way of securing a regular client. Sometimes the client will start paying the normal rate after a few sessions because they realize that what I'm giving them is worth the extra $50 or whatever they decided to bargain for. However, sometimes that backfires and they end up trying to take advantage of my time for the lower rate.

 

I know that some sites (like adam4adam) are full of guys that are looking for a discount right off the bat. I almost expect them to ask for one. In my experience, on sites like rentboy, the only time a negotiation comes up is when we are talking about an extended period of time like a weekend or a full week or longer.

 

I know I won't so much "give lazier/worse" service to someone who requests a lower rate, but I may be firmer on time limits (one hour means one hour) than I would for a client who agrees to the posted rate.

 

This is all personally speaking, of course. I myself would not post "negotiable" on any profile. However, I have been known to run a "holiday special" now and again. ;)

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This is a difficult question to answer. Most escorts will try and stay firm on their rates.

 

I hardly ever do this. If I tell someone that the rate is $200, I will see them for $180 or even $175. Granted, there's a limit to the amount I will discount, but I pad my full-priced appointments with extra time. If I discount an appointment, I simply don't do that and I feel like we're even. That said, I never short change someone on services, which is exactly why I won't offer a la carte appointments—it's the whole shebang or nothing.

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I find it similarly confusing for those escorts who post "ask me" in the section for rates. Since the ads are structured so as to make everything clearly delineated by category, and most escorts insist that you are paying only for their time and not any particular activity, then why the need for avoidance of the rate? I feel that invites at least the possibility of negotiation, which I have no interest in doing. If an escort posts "x" rate, then I am prepared to pay that when I contact him and I don't want to have to worry about further details on fees. Making initial contact can be an intimidating enough experience as it is. I prefer to know what the financial outlay will be before contacting the escort and I respect his ordering of his business by not trying to negotiate down from the published rate that he obviously already feels is worthy of his time and offered services.

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"Ask me" gives them flexibility with their rates depending on how busy they are. What I find funny are the guys who say "my rate is usually $300.00 but if you can see me within 1 hour I'll lower it to $250.00" making you feel like you are getting a great deal and better jump on it. It is a business and some play the games.

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I can only speak from my own absolutely unalterable position, as a client, regarding this matter. I NEVER EVER negotiate with an escort regarding his fee. In my first contact email with an escort I ask what his fee would be for lunch or dinner (his choice) and for two hours of play time after the meal. If his fee is in my price range I continue setting up the appointment. If his fee is beyond my price range I politely inform him of that fact and apologize for wasting his time and wish him the best. On a couple of occasions escorts have email me back inquiring what my price range was. As a “general rule” I do not respond to this type of email. If I do respond my answer is always the same. I inform the escort of my price range and then clearly and politely state that I am no longer interested in getting together because I simply NEVER EVER negotiate with an escort regarding his fee. It is most likely true that by rigidly following this policy I have misses out on getting together with several outstanding escorts but that’s my policy and life goes on.

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My preference on this matter is not to negotiate either, not on price, not on time, and not on activities. My personal take is anyone who posts rates, those rates should be respected. Anyone who doesn't post rates, or posts call, ask, nego, or leaves it blank etc, is openly requesting you to negotiate rates and or terms with them.

 

TIP:: When I look at escort ads, especially rentboy-- I set minnimum rate to $25 and no longer get any ads that don't post their rates-- I don't even have to waste 1 second looking at them-- they won't even display.

 

***GENERAL COMMENT not directed to any individual***

One thing I dislike even more than escorts who won't clearly post their rates are clients that think they are so special because they won't negotiate rates with an escort. Ok, you won't negotiate rates.. good for you. Do you really think that makes you a great person? Do you seriously expect a medal for it? Look- it's like this. Negotiate rates, don't negotiate rates -- its purely up to you and your escort-- and it doesn't make you a good person, a bad person, or a freaking saint.

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My preference on this matter is not to negotiate either, not on price, not on time, and not on activities. My personal take is anyone who posts rates, those rates should be respected. Anyone who doesn't post rates, or posts call, ask, nego, or leaves it blank etc, is openly requesting you to negotiate rates and or terms with them.

 

I concur 100%

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...then why the need for avoidance of the rate?

 

As I've said before—I post "ASK ME" because I offer multiple services and I have one rate box. If I put $200, I chase away the massage clients. If I put $150, I get all the cheapskates. When I say that I negotiate rates—it is something that happens maybe 1 time out of 20 contacts with clients. And then it almost always goes something like this:

 

"Hi, what's your rate?"

"It's $200/hr."

"Could you do $180?"

"Sure."

 

I never ask clients what their budget is. And in my opinion, I'm offering a service that is only as valuable as what someone is willing to pay. I'd rather have something than nothing, and while I will refuse a client after a certain price point—it's usually because of their attitude or the distance/time involved, and not because I don't want to lower the price that much.

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Just like I don't bargain over the price of, say, a shirt at Macy's,

 

...LOL...I always ask if they can do better than the price that is on the item at Macy's. at least 50% of the time the sales person will knock off an additional amount. Usually at least 10% often times more. It really really works!! You should try it. Don't be shy or timid, by as nice as you can, but just ask as if you expect a little something off.

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Never thought of it this way, Maxwell. I usually search for escorts only on the two major sites I use (rentboy and men4rentnow). If I'm looking for a massage, then I go to a site that's dedicated to that. In my experience, very few escorts are actually licensed massage therapists, which is what I'd seek if I wanted a massage. My impression of the "ask me" ads is that it usually represents the guys who expect you to negotiate (which I hate to do), or the guys who prefer to keep really high rates (relative to the region, or rates that are objectively high no matter where the ad's posted) but don't want to turn off too many potential clients at first blush, hoping to lure them in once contact has been made. Kind of like how some restaurants don't post the price in their menus (not the best analogy, I know). My impression could certainly be wrong, but I just generally like to know what I'm getting into before I start. I hate the embarrassing and uncomfortable position of finding out after biting the bullet and calling the escort you're infatuated with that he's beyond your price range.

 

As I've said before—I post "ASK ME" because I offer multiple services and I have one rate box. If I put $200, I chase away the massage clients. If I put $150, I get all the cheapskates. When I say that I negotiate rates—it is something that happens maybe 1 time out of 20 contacts with clients. And then it almost always goes something like this:

 

"Hi, what's your rate?"

"It's $200/hr."

"Could you do $180?"

"Sure."

 

I never ask clients what their budget is. And in my opinion, I'm offering a service that is only as valuable as what someone is willing to pay. I'd rather have something than nothing, and while I will refuse a client after a certain price point—it's usually because of their attitude or the distance/time involved, and not because I don't want to lower the price that much.

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Never thought of it this way, Maxwell. I usually search for escorts only on the two major sites I use (rentboy and men4rentnow). If I'm looking for a massage, then I go to a site that's dedicated to that. In my experience, very few escorts are actually licensed massage therapists, which is what I'd seek if I wanted a massage. My impression of the "ask me" ads is that it usually represents the guys who expect you to negotiate (which I hate to do), or the guys who prefer to keep really high rates (relative to the region, or rates that are objectively high no matter where the ad's posted) but don't want to turn off too many potential clients at first blush, hoping to lure them in once contact has been made. Kind of like how some restaurants don't post the price in their menus (not the best analogy, I know). My impression could certainly be wrong, but I just generally like to know what I'm getting into before I start. I hate the embarrassing and uncomfortable position of finding out after biting the bullet and calling the escort you're infatuated with that he's beyond your price range.

 

I can't even begin to tell you how many massage clients I've seen—and no, I'm not a licensed therapist. But God knows I've put in enough hours by now to have a doctorate.

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"Negotiable" means they are desperate. If a client requests a discount on a single hour and they continue to spew BS at me "Aww come on i will be a regular" (I get this a lot) then I hang up on them. (Regulars get discounts out of MY discretion, not theirs)

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"Negotiable" means they are desperate. If a client requests a discount on a single hour and they continue to spew BS at me "Aww come on i will be a regular" (I get this a lot) then I hang up on them. (Regulars get discounts out of MY discretion, not theirs)

 

The various spins on this are "I'm just trying to give you/generate you some business" or "I promise you the best BJ you've ever had," and so on. I have had regular clients negotiate with me for a lower rate, and they usually come out and say "I'd like to see you more often, but I can't afford your rate every time. Can you cut me a deal?" If they're fun and nice and easy to please, I don't have any problem doing this. More often than not they don't expect me to come anyway, and I start treating them like a massage appointment and stack them with days that are already booked with another client.

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My philosophy has always been "if you cant afford the item, or dont want to pay the price asked, dont go shopping for it"... However I do like a bargain and will seek out those within my price range. To me, bargaining is a game to see if you can win. I like to play my games elsewhere.

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(Regulars get discounts out of MY discretion, not theirs)

 

Point well made. I have gotten discounts from escorts before, but never never would I ask for one. After several repeats, a little extra time might be thrown in, or when I go to pay, sometimes they will quote a lesser price. To ask for a discount I feel is rude and insensitive to the escorts. They have expenses like the rest of us.

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When an escorts advertises and states a fee and then says prices are negotiable, what is he really saying? Does he expect the client to try to bargin for a lower price. I would be hesitant to request a lower fee. Then the service may not be as good. Working guys please comment.

 

I say my rates are negotiable to attract more business and in fact they are but to a limit. Hopefully if someone can't afford my rate they are at least willing to talk make an offer and if its too low I can decline. Remember escorts also have bills to be paid, not to mention healthcare costs related with the work.

 

Keenan

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But Mary jewing someone down is a classic D/S scene, and you don't even need to show the money up front before you're into it.

 

 

Bauer

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