Where, oh where did Benjamin Atwood go?

[bigvalboy]

Totally agree, Shadow. Ben is extremely masculine (dare I say, probably way more masculine than many who may be contributing their "thoughts"), a former member of the US military, and a very very hot guy.

 

I just don't get all the concern over the whole nail polish thing. Whether he does or does not or did or whatever. How do you judge someone for having it on anyway. Many of these young straight and gay kids where nail polish. It is everywhere. When I first saw straight kids wearing it, I admit I didn't totally understand it, but now when I see guys wearing it, I don't so much as give it a second thought. I remember when his pics first came out, he was very cute, people spoke highly of him, and seemed like he would be a good time. If I was in that area, I would not have hesitated.

[+ bigjoey]

Did an overnight with him. Thought I did a review but can not find it (or any reviews on him). Agree with all of the good things said. Nice guy and good in bed. I would repeat.

[RockHard]

Guys, quit dishing some pics you don't like

 

Last I looked, this was a free country with free speech, and we're on the internet in America. Not China. Furthermore, I was critiquing the advertising. "Dishing" is gossip among girls. That doesn't happen here.

 

meet him in person

 

When I think a movie preview is laughable, I tend to avoid the film. Sometimes, word on that film is so good, I have to overlook the marketing and see for myself.

 

Get over the bitchiness

 

Some people have lucrative careers in casting and marketing development and analysis. "Bitchiness" has nothing to do with a professional opinion.

[jjkrkwood]

OH JEEZ, not BACK to this again ?

 

If you like him, GREAT

 

If you dont like his look, you are entitled to give your opinion. If it comes off Bitchy who the fuck really cares. People Always cry "Bitch" when they dont agree with you...

 

Listen UP...people will comment on things all the time, especially when presented to them openly and publicly. This may be a new comment for some of you, but i doubt it. People start personal blogs to give themselves license to comment on All sorts of things, then make those blogs public. The only time I see any problem is for those that DONT agree with a comment. Well then, make your own comment and move on. No need to condemn others. YOUR opinion is Not Gods word !

[Guest countryboywny]

Guys, quit dishing some pics you don't like of a really hot, really nice, really fun guy. meet him in person (I have, twice) no nail polish, no blush, nice lean muscles and lots of hot sexy fun. And a sweet guy too. Get over the bitchiness on a thread about a great guy, please.

 

I've never met BA and I'm sure he is everything that those who have met him say he is. I will not criticize his choice of pictures featured in his ads either. For ME, however, the goth-y look, pale skin, and hair style in his pic are a turn-off. I'm making no judgments about him personally or about his abilities as an escort, I've never met him. But when I'm shopping rentboy and I come across his ad, the look makes me hit the "next" button.

[shadowcatzxxx]

A bit testy?

 

Most certainly this is a free country ... and we are (generally) free to say whatever we like, especially on the web. No one is preventing anyone for saying what they want, and certainly no one is advocating anything even remotely close to censorship -- on this site or elsewhere. What I'm asking for is a little self-restraint and courtesy to a gentleman who genuinely offers what he says he does.

 

AND ... as the main purpose of this site (from what I can tell) is to help us help each other find working gentlemen that will be to our liking (as well as offering occasional amusement and diversions) it seems contrary to the site's purpose (though not forbidden) to post bitchy, derogatory comments about one of the relatively few guys I've met whose pictures are accurate representations of their age, physical condition, etc., and whose behavior is pleasant, professional, and fun.

 

There are SO many fakers, frauds, and outright crooks in this particular hiring universe (and I have met far more of them than the "real deals") that it seems rude, unhelpful, and counterproductive for people who have never met Benjamin to make a series of nasty remarks extrapolated from a few pictures ( which I will definitely, following this exchange, suggest that he replace.)

 

And it just so happens that I know a number of people who have excellent careers in casting. Professionals in that field depend on live, in-person interviews and/or auditions to make decisions. (That's why there are casting calls.) Successful casting directors do not pay much attention to hearsay, preferring to get personal referrals from people who have first-hand experience with candidates' qualifications, whatever the most important qualifications for a particular role might be.

 

Given that "candidates" for employment in this line of work rarely if ever offer free auditions, we depend on each others' personal experience and judgment in trying to maximize enjoyment and minimize hiring errors that can result in frustration, wasted time and $$, or even in some extreme cases, risk of theft (or worse if you read tabloid headlines). To be maximally effective, opinions offered should be based (as they usually are here) either on first-hand experience, or knowledge of, and referrals to, threads and/or reviews that report first hand experiences.

 

I personally, have run into enough frauds and fakes -- 15 year-old photos, completely fake photos, people who look like their pics but are either druggies or assholes -- that I find it extremely unhelpful when people dish a guy who looks like what he says he does, offers top-notch services, and is a genuinely nice guy to boot.

 

Benjamin is one of the only guys with whom I have chosen to spend entire evenings with, repeatedly, because he is a standout in several ways. In more years of hiring than I care to remember, I have met only three or four escorts of this caliber (Brandan Steele and Marc Dylan, and Paulo in NYC cum to mind, in addition to Benjamin ... among dozens of disappointments. And I have met only three or four masseurs that genuinely deliver the combination of serious massage and play that I like (Julian Gold in LA, who also looks much better in person than his somewhat overdone pics, and Cameron and Todd in St Petersburg, one gentleman in Ft Lauderdale (who seems to have retired, alas) and one guy in New York (who is not always available).

 

The only way I found these wonderful men was through help from Daddys reviews and this forum.

 

So ... keep it real and useful, shall we?

[citylaw1]

They're not in Vegas.

 

 

 

Justin Bieber can barely pull that haircut off now that he is 18. I would say at 15 that hairstyle could be considered cute, boyishly girly, in a Beatles sort of way. But on a grown man? You've got to be kidding. Ever see a 60-year-old, unattractive, bald guy wearing an Abercrombie t-shirt? Girls, get real.

 

Goth is so early 80's. Even Kelly Osbourne dropped that ugly fashion offense years ago. How old is Mr. Atwood? Or better yet, how old is he trying to project?

 

I'm sure his body looks fine (the light in his photos looks sumptuous), but what can anyone say about a grown gay man who wears too much make-up (and isn't in a rock band)? The blush contour on his cheeks looks downright silly. One has to wonder about his skin condition.

 

Unless you want to be a girl, or your one goal in life is to perpetually audition for RuPaul's Drag Race, real men don't wear make-up or pluck their eye brows. And if they do it for a photo shoot (non drag), it better not be clocked.

 

I agree with all points above.

[citylaw1]

Well so much for Mr Rockhards "take" on what is acceptable for whom, I am just wondering if that Abercrombie t-shirt would be acceptable on a 60 year old that was "attractive" and HAD hair ???

 

Seems Mr Rockhard has ALOT of issues !

 

Appears that we all need to train our cocks to respond to beauty ONLY "as defined" by Mr Rockhard ? :confused:

 

It would not. For that very reason I retired my Diesel shoes just a week ago. And I'm 42.

[citylaw1]

A bit testy?

 

Most certainly this is a free country ... and we are (generally) free to say whatever we like, especially on the web. No one is preventing anyone for saying what they want, and certainly no one is advocating anything even remotely close to censorship -- on this site or elsewhere. What I'm asking for is a little self-restraint and courtesy to a gentleman who genuinely offers what he says he does.

 

AND ... as the main purpose of this site (from what I can tell) is to help us help each other find working gentlemen that will be to our liking (as well as offering occasional amusement and diversions) it seems contrary to the site's purpose (though not forbidden) to post bitchy, derogatory comments about one of the relatively few guys I've met whose pictures are accurate representations of their age, physical condition, etc., and whose behavior is pleasant, professional, and fun.

 

There are SO many fakers, frauds, and outright crooks in this particular hiring universe (and I have met far more of them than the "real deals") that it seems rude, unhelpful, and counterproductive for people who have never met Benjamin to make a series of nasty remarks extrapolated from a few pictures ( which I will definitely, following this exchange, suggest that he replace.)

 

And it just so happens that I know a number of people who have excellent careers in casting. Professionals in that field depend on live, in-person interviews and/or auditions to make decisions. (That's why there are casting calls.) Successful casting directors do not pay much attention to hearsay, preferring to get personal referrals from people who have first-hand experience with candidates' qualifications, whatever the most important qualifications for a particular role might be.

 

Given that "candidates" for employment in this line of work rarely if ever offer free auditions, we depend on each others' personal experience and judgment in trying to maximize enjoyment and minimize hiring errors that can result in frustration, wasted time and $$, or even in some extreme cases, risk of theft (or worse if you read tabloid headlines). To be maximally effective, opinions offered should be based (as they usually are here) either on first-hand experience, or knowledge of, and referrals to, threads and/or reviews that report first hand experiences.

 

I personally, have run into enough frauds and fakes -- 15 year-old photos, completely fake photos, people who look like their pics but are either druggies or assholes -- that I find it extremely unhelpful when people dish a guy who looks like what he says he does, offers top-notch services, and is a genuinely nice guy to boot.

 

Benjamin is one of the only guys with whom I have chosen to spend entire evenings with, repeatedly, because he is a standout in several ways. In more years of hiring than I care to remember, I have met only three or four escorts of this caliber (Brandan Steele and Marc Dylan, and Paulo in NYC cum to mind, in addition to Benjamin ... among dozens of disappointments. And I have met only three or four masseurs that genuinely deliver the combination of serious massage and play that I like (Julian Gold in LA, who also looks much better in person than his somewhat overdone pics, and Cameron and Todd in St Petersburg, one gentleman in Ft Lauderdale (who seems to have retired, alas) and one guy in New York (who is not always available).

 

The only way I found these wonderful men was through help from Daddys reviews and this forum.

 

So ... keep it real and useful, shall we?

 

Excellent points made, and you're right. To each his own. Clearly there are men on here interested in this type of escort, and that should be respected along side the bitchy comments that come along anytime you post a pic publicly. Public posts to "hire me" will always come along with commentary, whether it be right or wrong. I don't hear anyone coming to the defense of Ms. Bieber when she is routinely trashed on here as a lesbian, or, for that matter, coming to the defense of lesbians when they are compared to Ms. Bieber??

[RockHard]

A bit testy?

 

You sure like your on-the-rag adjectives.

 

No one is preventing anyone for saying what they want

 

Maybe someone smarter than I can find the hint or suggestion in the following command:

Guys, quit dishing some pics you don't like

***

 

What I'm asking for is a little self-restraint and courtesy to a gentleman

 

You're kidding, right? What forum are you on?

 

it seems contrary to the site's purpose (though not forbidden) to post bitchy, derogatory comments about one of the relatively few guys I've met whose pictures are accurate representations of their age, physical condition, etc., and whose behavior is pleasant, professional, and fun.

 

Sounds like you're smitten.

 

it seems rude, unhelpful, and counterproductive for people who have never met Benjamin to make a series of nasty remarks extrapolated from a few pictures

 

In advertising, 99.9% of the time, the marketplace never gets a chance to meet with the model. In an escort business, I would argue, first impressions are more than lasting, which makes the photo vitally important to success. An escort's photo sends more messages than any other visual in the medium.

 

And it just so happens that I know a number of people who have excellent careers in casting. Professionals in that field depend on live, in-person interviews and/or auditions to make decisions.

 

Very few people make the cut and are actually seen. The vast majority of photos end up in the trash.

 

Successful casting directors do not pay much attention to hearsay

 

A photo supplied by the "actor" is not hearsay. Bad photos are ridiculed all the time, regardless of talent and/or industry reputation. (The definition of "bad" depends on many things.)

 

I find it extremely unhelpful when people dish a guy who looks like what he says he does, offers top-notch services, and is a genuinely nice guy to boot.

 

You sound like his agent.

 

Benjamin is one of the only guys with whom I have chosen to spend entire evenings with, repeatedly

 

Ah, you are smitten.

 

Excellent points made... To each his own.

 

If only the shadow knew how to edit the promotion rant.

[William]

Back to Ben Atwood

 

As I said earlier in this thread, I have seen Benjamin on a number of occasions and had the same reaction as Shadow: this guy is gorgeous and buff, does not sport a goth look, has a full head of hair which gives him more of a jock look than a bieber look, is intelligent and cooperative, and provides a versatile and most enjoyable service to older less gorgeous guys (and does so without one whiff of condescension in his attitude).

 

Consider the following: everyone who has posted AND has actually met Benjamin is very positive about this fellow; the critics who have never met him have every right to disrespect his pictures or his advertising choices, but if you want the real deal and his advertised appearance and activities appeal to you, call and secure his services asap.

 

BTW, all the attention this thread has generated--including the critiques of his ad--have probably brought Atwood a bushel of business. If so, good for him--though I hope he still has time for me in his schedule. The guy is a star imho.

[Guest countryboywny]

As I said earlier in this thread, I have seen Benjamin on a number of occasions and had the same reaction as Shadow: this guy is gorgeous and buff, does not sport a goth look, has a full head of hair which gives him more of a jock look than a bieber look, is intelligent and cooperative, and provides a versatile and most enjoyable service to older less gorgeous guys (and does so without one whiff of condescension in his attitude).

 

Consider the following: everyone who has posted AND has actually met Benjamin is very positive about this fellow; the critics who have never met him have every right to disrespect his pictures or his advertising choices, but if you want the real deal and his advertised appearance and activities appeal to you, call and secure his services asap.

 

BTW, all the attention this thread has generated--including the critiques of his ad--have probably brought Atwood a bushel of business. If so, good for him--though I hope he still has time for me in his schedule. The guy is a star imho.

 

Another shining example of the value of this forum. As I said, NOT knowing BA, his pic turns me off. Having read the informational posts, I see my previous perception is WRONG. I'm going to put him on my "Wanna meet" list!

[RockHard]

all the attention this thread has generated--including the critiques of his ad--have probably brought Atwood a bushel of business. If so, good for him

 

I agree.

 

I have always said on this board, there is no such thing as bad publicity. Of course, sensible men know that's only true if the escort is beloved by many customers, and the escort doesn't come here and put contempt on display for all to see.

[jjkrkwood]

If only the shadow knew how to edit the promotion rant.

 

Mr R really is Oblivious. Noone gives "RANT" better than himself, but perhaps he is allowed for SOME reason unbeknownst to the rest of us ??? Attacking shadowcats opinion DID WHAT here exactly ? While I support Mr R's right to have his say here too, he really is a consistent "HATER" if you dont agrree with HIM....

[maxwellissmart]

I agree.

 

I have always said on this board, there is no such thing as bad publicity. Of course, sensible men know that's only true if the escort is beloved by many customers, and the escort doesn't come here and put contempt on display for all to see.

 

Seriously? Sometimes you guys operate under such delusions when it comes to escorting as a business. If you're not an escort—chances are you really have no idea what you're talking about.

 

BTW, Rock—the "you" in "you're" is not directed specifically at YOU, but rather the varied and haphazard opinions that float around this board as being "expert opinion" on the way the typical escort should run the shop. There is no typical shop, and there is no typical escort. And I'm still of the opinion that this board has little to do in the way of bringing business to the vast majority of escorts out there, myself included.

[citylaw1]

And I'm still of the opinion that this board has little to do in the way of bringing business to the vast majority of escorts out there, myself included.

 

You might be correct. A large part of this forum is dedicated to fawning over escorts, and tearing up as a result of "trolls" and "hijacked threads." I don't see how many on here find the time to hire.

 

I would guess that some choose not to hire someone based on comments made here though.

[instudiocity]

Seriously? Sometimes you guys operate under such delusions when it comes to escorting as a business. If you're not an escort—chances are you really have no idea what you're talking about.

Yup!

 

... And I'm still of the opinion that this board has little to do in the way of bringing business to the vast majority of escorts out there, myself included.

Ah, yes, my friend, but I have fallen for your BRAIN! I guess that's all of you I'll ever see...

[RockHard]

Seriously?

 

As serious as a bitch queen tranny having her period.

 

Sometimes you guys operate under such delusions

 

You have a better way of operating a fantasy?

 

that float around this board as being "expert opinion"

 

IMO, it doesn't take an expert to know a smart man from a not-so-smart man, a self-hater from a self-possessed.

 

this board has little to do in the way of bringing business to the vast majority of escorts out there

 

The "vast majority" is irrelevant. There are plenty of escorts who believe this board is good for publicity because they know more people read it than post. Some escorts use it wisely and with success. At least that's what the birdie whispered in my ear.

[maxwellissmart]

The "vast majority" is irrelevant. There are plenty of escorts who believe this board is good for publicity because they know more people read it than post. Some escorts use it wisely and with success. At least that's what the birdie whispered in my ear.

 

Well good for them.

[jjkrkwood]

The "vast majority" is irrelevant. There are plenty of escorts who believe this board is good for publicity because they know more people read it than post. Some escorts use it wisely and with success. At least that's what the birdie whispered in my ear.

 

I would bet my life, with 1000% certainty that ANY escort that is truly wise is NOT sharing business information with Mr R. And ANYBODY who comes to a website claiming to be "A big and important" person, and does nothing more than belittle and insult everything and everyone on that site simply to give HIMSELF some self-defined importance and "power" is living in his self-imposed Delusion, and has absolutely NO credibilty to me at all...... His hatred and comments about GAY society and its members is apalling, his comments about people purporting to give "expert opinion" and knowing nothing because they are not smarter than He is Laughable, and his downright arrogance which he so heartely defends is Offensive. Although he has every right to post here, the mystery to ME is why anyone gives him any time at all ? Now we wait to see when his suporters (all 3 of them) will chime in, and when his next RANT on Troll behavior will appear. Cant we just go READ the book?

Some people come to this site to interact and share, while others use it for "shock and awe".... The lines are clearly drawn. !

[maxwellissmart]

I would bet my life, with 1000% certainty that ANY escort that is truly wise is NOT sharing business information with Mr R. And ANYBODY who comes to a website claiming to be "A big and important" person, and does nothing more than belittle and insult everything and everyone on that site simply to give HIMSELF some self-defined importance and "power" is living in his self-imposed Delusion, and has absolutely NO credibilty to me at all...... His hatred and comments about GAY society and its members is apalling, his comments about people purporting to give "expert opinion" and knowing nothing because they are not smarter than He is Laughable, and his downright arrogance which he so heartely defends is Offensive. Although he has every right to post here, the mystery to ME is why anyone gives him any time at all ? Now we wait to see when his suporters (all 3 of them) will chime in, and when his next RANT on Troll behavior will appear. Cant we just go READ the book?

 

I'm not sure why I would want to throw in with someone who thinks the vast majority is irrelevant, when the vast majority is what pays my bills. I used to have a public profile on this board—I saw two of the people on here as clients, and sadly that didn't include Rock. I think the board is great for escorts to talk to other escorts—as far as gleaning insight from clients it tends to be very hit-or-miss. And without knowing hard, concrete numbers about the great invisible mass that may or may not be a bazillion potential clients—well, unless they make themselves known and spend some money, they're imaginary.

[josephga]

I seriously doubt anything said on here's going to make or break a business

[jjkrkwood]

I seriously doubt anything said on here's going to make or break a business

 

The point iS, none of that has anything to do with the OP and his thread, and YES once again I am guilty of aiding and abetting a thread getting hijacked.

 

Perhaps these others issuses should be moved to ASK AN ESCORT ???

[josephga]

then back to the original topic. looking at his photos i think the guys hot lol

[mouse]

I for one am glad this thread was created. It brought Benjamin to my attention, and I scheduled a session with him about a week ago, and boy am I glad I did. He was awesome. I'm planning one writing a review tonight, since I cannot believe he doesn't already have one. Also, when I saw him, he acknowledged the discussion here about the nail polish and thinks its funny that so much discussion was created over a single photoshoot.