Please dont hire us

[seaboy4hire]

So tonight I exchanged a few emails with a potential client. I told him my rates and get a reply back saying that he's having money issues and was asked if I'd see him for much less then what I stated. I want to think he was being honest as I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. If you are having money issues hiring should be last on your list. I know that for many hiring is easier then playing the games on the hookup sites but please prioritize. Hiring should not be high up on the list. If you need company invite a friend or family member over or cuddle up with the cat or dog. I don't pry into peoples personal lives but I told the guy that knowing he was tight on cash I would feel bad seeing him knowing it could put him in a bigger crunch. I think I did the correct thing.

 

Hugs,

Greg

[josephga]

I agree I consider escorting as well as what I do massage as a luxury item. Not a must have if a persons having money issues they should spend what they have on food shelter and things a person must have

[JoeyBryant]

I don't think 'client's like that are actually clients. They are just full of crap and do that so you can bend and offer them a discount at their pleasure. Then when you do give them a lower rate, they say, "oh something came up, just got called into work". It's like they just want to see if you will lower rate, not because they actually NEED you to.

 

And then some of them expect the 'all-affordable' $100 rate, so will try their luck with it.

[josephga]

I don't think 'client's like that are actually clients. They are just full of crap and do that so you can bend and offer them a discount at their pleasure. Then when you do give them a lower rate, they say, "oh something came up, just got called into work". It's like they just want to see if you will lower rate, not because they actually NEED you to.

 

And then some of them expect the 'all-affordable' $100 rate, so will try their luck with it.

 

I got a text today from a guy. he wanted too book asked about location services and rates. I gave him the therapeutic rate and erotic massage rate.. he said isn't that kinda steep? I said well i do have a license and there are guys charging the same thing or more without one. I said we could always forget the whole damn thing lol I was surprised he showed

[instudiocity]

....I said we could always forget the whole damn thing lol I was surprised he showed

"I can't let you have that! It's dangerous! It scares me!" are three lines I use all the time in sales.

 

In your case, something like, "Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were inquiring about a professional's service. A discounted massage would be dangerous for us both, because I'm state-regulated and perform to a very high standard. I'm afraid I couldn't put my full talents and abilities into a low-priced massage."

[leigh.bess.toad]

I've often said I'm surprised and a bit unnerved by the crap you guys have to put up with. I know it goes across the entire service industry, not only escorts and massage. Tonight I was out to dinner with my partner. We were seated next to a large party. When their check came they asked for individual checks. The manager said "we told you when we seated you there would not be split checks and about the auto-tip for a party your size and you said you'd be fine with it". Yeah, they wanted the auto-tip taken off too. This wasn't an expensive restaurant -- it was a small diner and it'd be hard for the bill per person to have been much over $15. Yet they were quibbling over every last damned dime. Unreal.

 

The customer may always be right, but the customer is frequently a jackass.

[+ purplekow]

People ask for discounts all the time. If you ask sometimes you get. Sometimes you don't. If someone asks, a simple I don't do discounts is more than enough. A simple no is really sufficient. As for being concerned about his finances, except for how much he is going to pay you, his financial situation should not be your concern.

i recently had a discussion with an escort who I have seen several times. I had been going through a tough economic patch and had shared that. He said that he felt bad charging me when I was having a hard time financially. (This was in an e mail discussion regarding a different issue and did not revolve around a particular hire.) I stated that while I was sharing information with him that i was having a bit of financial difficulty, i was quite capable of deciding how I would spend my limited funds. In the future, I will refrain from all casual conversations about finances with escorts.

[mmk123]

I would never ask an escort for a discount. If I cannot afford to hire someone I do not. I have had an escort give me a free session and he now charges me less than he used to (I have been seeing this person since 2006) but that was him making the gesture, not me asking.

 

There are times that I would like to hire but if I do not have the cash then I do not.

[justaguy]

Like josephga, I consider hiring an escort or a masseur a luxury. It has nothing to do with putting food, sheldter or clothing. While I can see asking politely if you offer any discounts (as for example a multi-hour discount), a no from you should be the end of the discussion. His financial situation should be no part in your decision making process.

[leigh.bess.toad]

I, along with many of us who were at the DC events of last week, were privy to a great example of what some of these guys put up with. Ace, our newly crowned EOY, had placed an ad in the Washington blade (great ad, btw). Some loser texted him asking for another picture, which he sent. And then another more explicit one. And on and on. It included texts which such things as "I don't have the money to hire you but I'll pay you $50 for an explicit pic", "I don't have anyone. I have no friends. Be my friend", "you're an idiot for not sending me the picture. You just blew $50". They quickly became abusive, derogatory, then apologetic and begging -- back and forth. On and on and on and on this went, over 2 days at least.

 

How you guys deal with losers like this is something I can never understand. As would be expected, Ace handled this with class and never responded to the abusive texts. But that didn't stop them from coming.

 

It was truly eye-opening.

[JoeyBryant]

i recently had a discussion with an escort who I have seen several times. I had been going through a tough economic patch and had shared that.

 

That's totally different than a random stranger calling up though. You seen him several times, he knows you a bit better. He knows you're not pulling a fast one.

 

I would love love love (NOT) to call up a barber I've never been to in my life and tell him, "hey dude, I REALLY need a haircut SO bad but I can't afford it. Can you give me the kid's cut for $8 instead of the usual $17?"

 

Sure our prices are a bit higher, but still...I wouldn't call up a random auto repair man and ask to do work on my car for a lower quote either. I'd either call around to other repair men or simply do the work myself. Just like a guy can call other dudes or implement self-satisfaction himself.

[+ Shoreboy]

I agree...when a price is determined and made clear....there should be no debate.

 

However, I have noticed more and more escorts list "ask me" in the price category.

 

Recently I talked to a possible escort and finally asked him what he expected and when he told me $300....I simply said that was too high for me...he then quickly added....how about $250...

 

I hate to quibble about prices and I guess my main point here is that escorts should list their proces up front and simply add the word "firm" to it....that would solve issues on both side of the fence

[MrBigTL]

I don't like the "ask me" quotes, I often skip the escorts because I don't like to discuss money. I also realize that there are different price points for different cities, but the escort should also realize that and ajust his prices accordingly if he wants business in that area. Just my two cents worth here.

[KMEM]

I don't like the "ask me" quotes, I often skip the escorts because I don't like to discuss money. ... Just my two cents worth here.

 

I thought you didn't like to discuss money.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[bigvalboy]

Hey Seaboy, dispite what a lot of people will say about the biz of escorting, it is like any other buisness. You very often reap the benefits of that business by what you bring to the table. You were exactly right. Set standards and insist that others do the same. As my friend always says about situations like this..."If you can't run with the big dogs, then stay on the porch" LOL

[MiamiLooker]

That's totally different than a random stranger calling up though. You seen him several times, he knows you a bit better. He knows you're not pulling a fast one.

 

I would love love love (NOT) to call up a barber I've never been to in my life and tell him, "hey dude, I REALLY need a haircut SO bad but I can't afford it. Can you give me the kid's cut for $8 instead of the usual $17?"

 

Sure our prices are a bit higher, but still...I wouldn't call up a random auto repair man and ask to do work on my car for a lower quote either. I'd either call around to other repair men or simply do the work myself. Just like a guy can call other dudes or implement self-satisfaction himself.

 

Suppose, instead, the barber contacts you and tells you he'll give you a haircut for $5. You take him up on it, and it's one of the best haicuts you've ever gotten. Would you be so eager to pay another barber $17 for a haircut that you may or may not be satisfied with, when you know you can get a great haircut for $5?

[Steven_Draker]

Suppose, instead, the barber contacts you and tells you he'll give you a haircut for $5.

 

I'll decline the offer.

 

I go to my regular barber, because I know what to expect and I'm satisfied with his work.

[Michael Wayne]

just PUBLISH your rates very clearly and it will eliminate 90% of the problems like that. "ask me or rates vary," in the ad for rates is a TOTAL TURNOFF to most real clients and an open invitation for guys to contact you with no money cause you might be avaailable for 100 bucks- they don't know. Rates can vary based on location, travel time and special requests but every escort needs a PUBLISHED basic hourly and 2 hour rate. Been in business a long time so this policy has priven very effective over the years

[josephga]

I publish my rates clearly and some still ask for a discount. Some never look past a pic and phone number. I offer 3 levels of massage each level with a different price point. I do that so I can offer a lower rate to those getting massage for therapeutic only.Level 1 therapeutic only is mostly sold to college students, personal trainers and body builders.

Sometimes I'll get guys that will show up and i'll ask them which massage did they want? they haven't a clue and some don't even know the rates even though it's posted in ads.

Top 3 questions I get what are your rates? what are your hours, what kinds of massage do you do? Every bit of that's answered in the ads

[down_to_business]

Mikey is right on. Publish you rates clearly eliminates 90% of the problems. in my opinion if you put nothing, negotiable, ask, varies you are asking for someone to negotiaite rates with you.

 

@ Josephga's point about people asking for discounts even with published rates and other information posted in your ad. You are correct that some people never do get past the picture, however the more accurate information you post should lessen the number of inquiries along this nature (as the specs in your ad will weed out some people that clearly know the pricepoint or technique or whatever else in your ad doesn't meet their needs). Unfortunately, and apparently not you, but other service providers check each and every box or mistakenly or perhaps intentionally give false information so that it does become necessary to ask questions that otherwise may be posted in the ad. Hours of availabilty, rates, smoking status, age, ethnicity, body hair, and tastes/specialities/fetishes sections (of rentboy.com for example) have all been severely misrepresented in postings.

[jjkrkwood]

I totally agree with the OP's original comment, if you are having financial problems, you dont need to hire an escort. Stay home, watch FREE porn and jerk yourself off. You cant have what you cant PAY for.....

[josephga]

I totally agree with the OP's original comment, if you are having financial problems, you dont need to hire an escort. Stay home, watch FREE porn and jerk yourself off. You cant have what you cant PAY for.....

 

Agree

[MiamiLooker]

I publish my rates clearly and some still ask for a discount. Some never look past a pic and phone number. I offer 3 levels of massage each level with a different price point. I do that so I can offer a lower rate to those getting massage for therapeutic only.Level 1 therapeutic only is mostly sold to college students, personal trainers and body builders.

Sometimes I'll get guys that will show up and i'll ask them which massage did they want? they haven't a clue and some don't even know the rates even though it's posted in ads.

Top 3 questions I get what are your rates? what are your hours, what kinds of massage do you do? Every bit of that's answered in the ads

 

Joseph

 

Here's a link to your ad:

 

http://www.manssage.com/georgia/atlanta/1002

 

Do you think it's clear that you offer three levels of massage with three different rates?

[MiamiLooker]

I'll decline the offer.

 

I go to my regular barber, because I know what to expect and I'm satisfied with his work.[/color]

 

So, you're an adventurous kind of guy except when it comes to your coiffure...

[josephga]

Joseph

 

Here's a link to your ad:

 

http://www.manssage.com/georgia/atlanta/1002

 

Do you think it's clear that you offer three levels of massage with three different rates?

 

If you look at masseur finder or massage m4m its clear. I contacted manssage over a month ago and asked them to delete that ad. I get very few clients from that site and it wasn't worth bothering with updateing. Only sites I currently update are massage m4m and masseur finder. Manssage doesn't let me delete my own ad I contacted tthe web master over a month ago requesting to be deleted