Let's talk about cumming

[Decatur Guy]

I think all the escorts I've hired have cum. I think ... but I'm not sure.

 

I'm not that wedded to cumming at all -- either for the escort or me. I've had some GREAT sex where neither I or the guy I was with shot off. Usually, it's during prolonged sex and you get real close but hold off. Sometimes, that will prolong the sex but then I can't cum later.

 

In fact, the last time I hired an escort, he came but I didn't. (And he's my favorite escort).

 

I'll even go so far as to say I'd much rather the escort not cum at all than to come early. I have had a few cum before I was ready to stop!

[jjkrkwood]

I think all the escorts I've hired have cum. I think ... but I'm not sure.

 

I'm not that wedded to cumming at all -- either for the escort or me. I've had some GREAT sex where neither I or the guy I was with shot off. Usually, it's during prolonged sex and you get real close but hold off. Sometimes, that will prolong the sex but then I can't cum later.

 

In fact, the last time I hired an escort, he came but I didn't. (And he's my favorite escort).

 

I'll even go so far as to say I'd much rather the escort not cum at all than to come early. I have had a few cum before I was ready to stop!

 

I dont really think this is about OUR personal preferences regarding cumming, but more so whether we should expect the escort to accommodate us IF we request he cum and we are paying a substantial service fee. It would be like taking your car in for maintenance, and getting the oil change but NOT the tune-up. Some might feel the value of the session is lessened by the Non-cum, but again, this all needs to be discussed and sorted out UP FRONT.... Your expectations and the ability of the escort to indulge them are, FOR ME, the key to a successful encounter.

[Phil_musc]

I guess I'm naive here, but somehow the idea of two guys hurtling toward a mutual climax just seems hotter (and more satisfying) than just one guy who's really heading for a climax. I understand that escorts may want to save themselves - I prefer earlier appointments in the day because I work most evenings, so when I can schedule and be the last one of the day, that can be infinitely more satisfying, especially if the escort is really going for the gold and not just performing for the client (me). Either way, it's not a deal breaker though. I understand it's a business and the guy is human and not a bottomless well of juice. But a mutual orgasm - mmmhmmm. More likely to rehire.

[Decatur Guy]

I dont really think this is about OUR personal preferences regarding cumming, but more so whether we should expect the escort to accommodate us IF we request he cum and we are paying a substantial service fee. It would be like taking your car in for maintenance, and getting the oil change but NOT the tune-up. Some might feel the value of the session is lessened by the Non-cum, but again, this all needs to be discussed and sorted out UP FRONT.... Your expectations and the ability of the escort to indulge them are, FOR ME, the key to a successful encounter.

 

Everyone has a different set of expectations. That's simply not one of mine. But yes, if it were one of mine, yes for $300 show me the money shot.

[gcursor]

No..you first!

 

I tend to over-think situations so it's hard enough just getting me to finish in the first place ...but if I do then I always want the other person to finish first because I'm so focused on making them happy first...I've always always always been that way. I'm serious...even when I do it with myself..I usually can't finish because I have to let the other "person" finish first so I know that I've made them happy. Since I can't make myself happy before finishing myself then clearly a paradox has been set up in my mind.

 

I should start drinking, and maybe do drugs....maybe that will help

Gcursor

 

Everyone has a different set of expectations. That's simply not one of mine. But yes, if it were one of mine, yes for $300 show me the money shot.

[Mocha]

I have the same energy level issue with traveling escorts. Every once in a while a guy comes thru and I always wonder: Do I just book a local guy who probably (to I don't know for sure) only has me that day OR do I take a chance on the travelling escort, who may have booked 3 clients that day and may conserve his energy for his other two "love" interests?

 

Don't guess. Just ask. You may have traveling escorts on the 3 clients a day, or you may have a traveling escort who hasn't seen anyone and is willing to please you so at the very least they don't go home empty handed.

 

Hell, the guy at home could have fucked his boyfriend/wife/jerked off to porn and came 2 or 3 times last night. So you can't just assume.

[Epigonos]

I NEVER book one hour sessions. I get together with an escort for lunch or dinner and a couple of hours of play time. For that type of arrangement I expect to pay somewhere between $500 and $600. I make it very clear that in this type of situation I expect the escort to cum. I have NEVER had an escort say NO. If the day should come when one does, I would consider it a deal breaker -- no exceptions. He cums, I cum or we don't play together.

[Okliehomo]

I NEVER have booked anything but overnights, and in the early days, I really expected to cum at least 5 times. (more with Ty and Alencar).... And they all knew it and agreed to it. And most of them matched me, happily. Quite a sticky situation...

 

Ah, youth.

 

Not quite the same expectations these days.. for myself, for sure.... and even not as much for the escorts..... but no cum shot, at all??? Bad news.

 

Seriously.... if all the escorts in the world had the same "I just want to cum and cum and cum and cum... and cum" motivation as Andrew Justice does.... well... there wouldn't be a thread like this at all.

 

Okie

[Phil_musc]

I NEVER have booked anything but weekends (at the minimum - and cheerfully paid upwards of $4500) and I have escorts demanding that I come five times just to satisfy them (more with Ty and Alencar - they just won't allow any allowance for advancing age - and I'm 78 this past August). My cum is in such demand among the working guys, that if I don't promise them to come at least seven times a day, they won't do repeat business with me. I gave up reading email thank you's from the guys - I just couldn't keep up with the correspondence myself. I had to hire a private secretary just to manage my own personal thank-you's from the really grateful guys. But once he found out what it was all about, he started demanding that I share my cum with him too. I am now looking into investing in a fleet that deals in nothing but oyster farming - all those old wives tales about oysters and sex - well those smiling old wives knew what they were talking about. Gotta go now - my weekend guest is already ringing my doorbell (it's only Thursday, but I like my guys to show up early) - he is so eager. I just love those young guys who need their daddy and his sweet love. Ciao for now.

[Lohengrin1979]

I NEVER have booked anything but weekends (at the minimum - and cheerfully paid upwards of $4500) and I have escorts demanding that I come five times just to satisfy them (more with Ty and Alencar - they just won't allow any allowance for advancing age - and I'm 78 this past August). My cum is in such demand among the working guys, that if I don't promise them to come at least seven times a day, they won't do repeat business with me. I gave up reading email thank you's from the guys - I just couldn't keep up with the correspondence myself. I had to hire a private secretary just to manage my own personal thank-you's from the really grateful guys. But once he found out what it was all about, he started demanding that I share my cum with him too. I am now looking into investing in a fleet that deals in nothing but oyster farming - all those old wives tales about oysters and sex - well those smiling old wives knew what they were talking about. Gotta go now - my weekend guest is already ringing my doorbell (it's only Thursday, but I like my guys to show up early) - he is so eager. I just love those young guys who need their daddy and his sweet love. Ciao for now.

 

You sir, just gave me a 20 year game plan. Bring on the opera contracts and the contracted pleasure workers.

 

Regards,

Lohengrin1979

[Steven_Draker]

I NEVER have booked anything but weekends (at the minimum - and cheerfully paid upwards of $4500) and I have escorts demanding that I come five times just to satisfy them (more with Ty and Alencar - they just won't allow any allowance for advancing age - and I'm 78 this past August). My cum is in such demand among the working guys, that if I don't promise them to come at least seven times a day, they won't do repeat business with me. I gave up reading email thank you's from the guys - I just couldn't keep up with the correspondence myself. I had to hire a private secretary just to manage my own personal thank-you's from the really grateful guys. But once he found out what it was all about, he started demanding that I share my cum with him too. I am now looking into investing in a fleet that deals in nothing but oyster farming - all those old wives tales about oysters and sex - well those smiling old wives knew what they were talking about. Gotta go now - my weekend guest is already ringing my doorbell (it's only Thursday, but I like my guys to show up early) - he is so eager. I just love those young guys who need their daddy and his sweet love. Ciao for now.

 

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Awwww ... I'd nominate this as the best post of the year. Loved it. Thanks for the smile.

[jjkrkwood]

I NEVER have booked anything but weekends (at the minimum - and cheerfully paid upwards of $4500) and I have escorts demanding that I come five times just to satisfy them (more with Ty and Alencar - they just won't allow any allowance for advancing age - and I'm 78 this past August). My cum is in such demand among the working guys, that if I don't promise them to come at least seven times a day, they won't do repeat business with me. I gave up reading email thank you's from the guys - I just couldn't keep up with the correspondence myself. I had to hire a private secretary just to manage my own personal thank-you's from the really grateful guys. But once he found out what it was all about, he started demanding that I share my cum with him too. I am now looking into investing in a fleet that deals in nothing but oyster farming - all those old wives tales about oysters and sex - well those smiling old wives knew what they were talking about. Gotta go now - my weekend guest is already ringing my doorbell (it's only Thursday, but I like my guys to show up early) - he is so eager. I just love those young guys who need their daddy and his sweet love. Ciao for now.

 

 

WOW, I'm scared of YOU Phil !!!! But I suppose at 78, its a good time as any to start spending that 401K money? Enjoy EVERY spurt !

[Phil_musc]

Response below:

[Phil_musc]

Well, JJ, I really don't like to come that much, but my boys seem to demand it and I have to try to keep them happy so they'll want to re-schedule with me, even if I forget the thank you note or just can't get to it in a timely fashion. And really - who am I to deny them my miracle elixir? It seems almost un-american to refuse to share the wealth. At any rate, we live a long time in my family. My dad just turned 105 and he recently took up smoking - he figured if all the unprotected oral sex he'd recently been having with his live-in stud muffin boyfriend and all the guys that they were jetting all over the world to see and do (oh yeah, dad's Bi) hadn't caught up with him yet (CDC be damned) he'd probably make it to 120 and he felt like that might be a drain on the US medicare program. Since we seem to be genetically programmed to live a long time and remain horndogs up to pretty much the bitter end (dad told me HIS father had died of a stroke brought on by anal asphixiation when his feet got caught in some sort of bear trap that some nut case had put up in the no-man's land between Cherry Grove and the Pines- probably trolling for straight dick.) As a result, I've tried to be pretty frugal with my 401k plan - so many men, and sooooo much time. I just hope the dollars hold out. I'm scouting out the bargains now - reading through Backpage and Craig's List ads.

[jjkrkwood]

Well, JJ, I really don't like to come that much, but my boys seem to demand it and I have to try to keep them happy so they'll want to re-schedule with me, even if I forget the thank you note or just can't get to it in a timely fashion. And really - who am I to deny them my miracle elixir? It seems almost un-american to refuse to share the wealth. At any rate, we live a long time in my family. My dad just turned 105 and he recently took up smoking - he figured if all the unprotected oral sex he'd recently been having with his live-in stud muffin boyfriend and all the guys that they were jetting all over the world to see and do (oh yeah, dad's Bi) hadn't caught up with him yet (CDC be damned) he'd probably make it to 120 and he felt like that might be a drain on the US medicare program. Since we seem to be genetically programmed to live a long time and remain horndogs up to pretty much the bitter end (dad told me HIS father had died of a stroke brought on by anal asphixiation when his feet got caught in some sort of bear trap that some nut case had put up in the no-man's land between Cherry Grove and the Pines- probably trolling for straight dick.) As a result, I've tried to be pretty frugal with my 401k plan - so many men, and sooooo much time. I just hope the dollars hold out. I'm scouting out the bargains now - reading through Backpage and Craig's List ads.

 

Well Phil, if you need some worn crusty jock-straps, or broken in Dildoes at Fantastic prices, I am selling a bunch of that kind of stuff on EBAY to raise money to hire MY boys. Cant do it on a working mans salary alone.

[Zapped]

Philmusic is hilarious! Thanks!

 

There have been a lot of conversations within this thread, two of the main ones about "should an escort be expected to cum?" and "Make sure your expectation is clear." It seems pretty clear that whatever your position on whether every escort should be expected to be able to cum at every session, in the real world not all can or will. So as with anything else, it's essential to have a clear oral understanding (ha!--pun wasn't intended but how perfect). I've found a couple of things work. One is to say, "It's very important to me that my partner cums. Is that a problem for you?" or some variation on that, trying to be direct but not cross the line into "are you promising to cum for me if I pay you X." The other thing is to be the final client of the day. A local guy in Indy who does mostly erotic massage told me that while he can't cum for everyone he massages/jerks off, he almost always cums with the last client of the day.

 

Happy slurping!

[jjkrkwood]

 

The other thing is to be the final client of the day. A local guy in Indy who does mostly erotic massage told me that while he can't cum for everyone he massages/jerks off, he almost always cums with the last client of the day.

 

I'm a senior citizen. I cant stay up that Late !

[SteveEscort]

I recokon I cum in maybe 1 in every 4 appointments. It's not a usual request. I don't mind cumming during appointments if the client wants that but I will not cum if I am doing a quickie appointment.

 

Usually, once the client has cum, he loses interest, beforehand he's talking dirty to me and telling me how he wants my cum down his throat but if he comes before me that idea goes out of the window. Suddenly the taste of cum isnt as appealing to him. I am so used to it that I don't tend to notice as much now anyway.

 

I do a lot of bottoming, I would say 60% of my clients want me to bottom, whether it be bottom anally or just be a complete dirty cocksucker, eitherway they tend to be top only in many instances. I am also well known for my rimming technique. Some clients come to me JUST for that service, plus masturbating and usually cum in mouth.

 

Most guys I see do want to give me oral but they don't tend to spend as much time on my dick as I do on theirs unless I get a real cock sucking guy whose passion is to provide oral to completion. I weigh up each appointment as it comes. Clients with erectile disfunction usually want me to take the lead and it nearly always results in me ejaculating.

 

Marketing myself more as a rugby built, heavy set guy who looks top but who takes it, provides me with a lot of bottoming work which I like. Being immaculately clean inside by douching before every appointment is more important to some of my clients than me cumming. Many are afraid of anal sex with a bloke because they think it will be dirty and their cock won't be clean, there will be a smell and a mess on the sheets. None of that happens with me and so for them that reassurance that they can come and fuck me for as long as they can manage and it be a pleasurable experience tends to come a little higher than a mouthfull of semen for some reason.

 

As I touched on earlier, if any client wants me to cum, I will, I can maintain an erection throughout the appointment without cumming but can come on demand if he requests. This is something I have trained myself to do. The only time I lose an erection during an appointment is if he's arrogant, I do all the work and there's no reciprocation of any kind. Arrogant blokes can be horny but when they're arrogant and unresponsive then the mood isn't great for cumming.

 

I do various quickies too, I live in between two major multinational institutions, the HQ of a huge UK bank and the HQ of a huge international software company, both are less than a mile from me and so I seem to service a high proportion of their male open minded workforce at lunch times and after 5pm (and sometimes in between if they disappear from work), I do quick in and out blow jobs and I don't even drop my pants for them, the focus is on quick in and out, cum, thanks, now get on with your day. Those clients never expect me to cum LOL

[JT Brooklyn]

SteveEscort..Thanks for your perspective on the CUM Scenario with Clients...