411 on Kyle James aka CAhotjockstud

[rossthebosssf]

I know I already know the answer, but I thought I would just throw this one out there. Anyone have any experience with Kyle James? He's going to be in San Diego the same time as me and I've lusted after his dated photos for a couple years.

 

Here's his ads:

 

M4RN: http://cruisingforescorts.com/index.php?file=l&search_type=escort_id&escort_id=7963

 

RB: http://www.rentboy.com/Listing.aspx?lid=267638&scid=56512514&sp=1&pos=4&locid=1686&iid=128206

 

I couldn't find any reviews on Daddy's, but I did find two negatives on Cruising for Escorts:

 

http://cruisingforescorts.com/index.php?file=l&search_type=escort_id&escort_id=7963

 

Why do I even bother asking? I believe I saw him on one of Okie's threads as a "to-do" so that's why I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

[rvwnsd]

I thought there was a post about him on the message board, but I only found one that asked for info.

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

Although no personal experience, I've seen his ads on massagem4m for a while now. The reviews there are more favorable.

 

http://www.massagem4m.com/ca/orange-county/12607/

[josephga]

The fact that he calls it Rub or a rubdown throws up red flags normally those terms are used for someone giving a bad massage or a pretend massage. You might do okay if your interest in him is for escort services but don't go in expecting a real massage

[Decatur Guy]

The fact that he calls it Rub or a rubdown throws up red flags normally those terms are used for someone giving a bad massage or a pretend massage. You might do okay if your interest in him is for escort services but don't go in expecting a real massage

 

I'm with you. Proceed with caution.

[+ Travis69]

He has been discussed on Muscle Service. Remember most didn't like him and found him to be obnoxious and too conceited. You might have a good experience if you are gorgeous yourself and he is attracted to you. Can't find the actual thread.

[Epigonos]

This guy has been running ads in the L.A. area since I started hiring here and that is nearly ten years now. It is hard to believe that if he was any good he wouldn't have several reviews by now. There has always been something about his ads that have made me skeptical and thus I have never hired him.

[+ Billsboy4]

Met him once, several years ago. He looks like his pics, but he was detached during the session. That seemed to be the consensus on the MSS thread about him. I don't know if I'd describe him as obnoxious & conceited, but more disinterested and detached. Bottom line, there are much better choices out there.

[dfw2sfo]

Odd experience

 

I got a massage from Kyle in Orange County. He is hot with a big cock. I was to be quiet in the basement bedroom because there was someone else in the house. He tried to get me off and out quickly.

[rossthebosssf]

Although no personal experience, I've seen his ads on massagem4m for a while now. The reviews there are more favorable.

 

http://www.massagem4m.com/ca/orange-county/12607/

 

I believe they can delete negative reviews on that site. If you look around all the profiles, you'd be hard pressed to find any review less than a nine. Pretty suspicious.

[josephga]

I believe they can delete negative reviews on that site. If you look around all the profiles, you'd be hard pressed to find any review less than a nine. Pretty suspicious.

 

 

we can't delete negative reviews on massage m4m. but can delete one negative review every 90 days on masseur finder.. I think massage m4m just doesn't post negative reviews unless it becomes chronic...

[josephga]

One thing that always irritated me on massage m4m is next to some of the ads is a symbol that states preferred masseur. preferred by who you may ask? NO ONE they pay massage m4m a extra monthly fee to have that symbol by their name. imo its misleading

[Phil_musc]

I will weigh in here - I met him when he was in Philly about a year or so ago. I enjoyed my session very much. He's in and out on the engagement aspect (some attention issues here) but mostly in. I found him kind of funny and sweet and very hot. I would re-schedule if he came back. It's true that you can find a better massage out there but it's also true that you can find a lot worse. I'd say take a chance.

[+ Axiom2001]

I believe they can delete negative reviews on that site. If you look around all the profiles, you'd be hard pressed to find any review less than a nine. Pretty suspicious.

 

Yes, they can and have deleted negative reviews. In 2010 I wrote two detailed negative reviews only to have had them deleted.

I wrote to the site master inquiring why my reviews never appeared and received a response indicating that whatever reviews appear is the prerogative of the "masseurs."

They themselves control what goes up as well as to what comes down!

[josephga]

Allot of people Don't want too bother either. To leave a review you have to sign up create a password write the review then they send a link to your email account to click on that verifies you then review goes up. Allot of people don't want to bother. If I totaled up every review I have on every site I advertise on its around 50 reviews. that's 50 reviews out of 7000 massages given. Most just don't bother

[josephga]

I also logged in and pulled up my dashboard at massage m4m this morning and looked under review management. we can edit our own comments to reviews and we can archive reviews. There is no edit or delete option. so If reviews are being deleted its being done by customer service at the request of the masseur or customer service is doing it on their own. but masseur finder does have a delete option on our dashboard. but it's limited too 1 pr 90 days. never advertised with men for rent now but i know reviews can be deleted there too..

[Okliehomo]

Well.. that was a VERY old thread......

 

And while I remember listing him as "to do" based on his pics, 8 years ago, I never "did" based on his reviews..... I remember a private about him saying that because he used to be fat himself as a kid, he could never do fat guys..... and while I wasn't fat, I thought, "Many thanks, no."

 

Not the real deal, at all.....

 

Okie

[rvwnsd]

And while I remember listing him as "to do" based on his pics, 8 years ago...

Okie

 

He is still using those same pics today. Sigh.

[+ Gar1eth]

And while I remember listing him as "to do" based on his pics, 8 years ago, I never "did" based on his reviews..... I remember a private about him saying that because he used to be fat himself as a kid, he could never do fat guys..... and while I wasn't fat, I thought, "Many thanks, no."

 

Not the real deal, at all.....

 

Okie

 

Okie,

 

Not to argue with you-but there was another escort who told me that years ago. It wasn't this Kyle that this thread is about. It was an escort who hasn't advertised for a long time. He was a muscular guy. I think his name was Steve James. I remember him from when I first found Hooboy's site, but he probably stopped advertising around 2003 or 2004. He was in LA if I remember correctly. I just wanted to make sure you weren't thinking of this Steve guy. Steve, if that was his name usually advertised as a top--but sometimes I think his ad said versatile or versatile top. When I called him up to find out if we would be a good match, I told him I was overweight (as I do 99.9% of the time). He told me he had been overweight when he was younger, and because of that had trouble with overweight clients. I can't really remember what he looked like now--but my remembrance of my memories (if that makes sense) are of a really muscular guy--although I can't remember if he showed a face picture.

 

Gman

[josephga]

He is still using those same pics today. Sigh.

 

those same pics have been on masseur finder since 2003 for sure.

[Okliehomo]

Not to argue with you....

 

But it was this guy.. and it is easy to remember him because he has been using the same pics for all these many years.... and I did have every intention of hiring him....

 

And as for Steve James..... I met him as well years ago... but it was far from memorable. We didn't click at all... what I remember about him was that he was "ruggedly handsome", dark complected, dark hair, hairy and muscled.... and something about him having a real job as an actor... but he did this to supplement his real dream?? I can still picture his face....

 

Okie

[rvwnsd]

...And as for Steve James..... I met him as well years ago... but it was far from memorable. We didn't click at all... what I remember about him was that he was "ruggedly handsome", dark complected, dark hair, hairy and muscled.... and something about him having a real job as an actor... but he did this to supplement his real dream?? I can still picture his face....

 

Okie

 

Did you write a review of Steve James? I wanted to hire him for the longest time. Most of his reviews were positive, but one sounded a lot like what you wrote above. His e-mails sounded disengaged and I decided to take a pass.

 

Reviews 14 - 16 are positive, but reviews 1-13 were lost when the web site transitioned over. Damn shame that you didn't click. I recall him as being very handsome, muscular, and hairy. All attributes I appreciate in a guy.

 

Back to the topic at hand...I, too, remember reading somewhere (maybe on his bigmuscle.com profile when it was still active?) that Kyle James had a weight problem as a kid. I never hired him because he had a couple of negative reviews on M4RN (both gone after he deleted and re-posted his ad) and some negative feedback here which seems to have vanished in the mist.

[+ Gar1eth]

But it was this guy.. and it is easy to remember him because he has been using the same pics for all these many years.... and I did have every intention of hiring him....

 

And as for Steve James..... I met him as well years ago... but it was far from memorable. We didn't click at all... what I remember about him was that he was "ruggedly handsome", dark complected, dark hair, hairy and muscled.... and something about him having a real job as an actor... but he did this to supplement his real dream?? I can still picture his face....

 

Okie

 

Well I guess I am lucky to have missed out on both of the James. I had talked to Kyle years ago about an overnight, but he said he didn't do them. As for Steve James, I already knew it wouldn't have been a good meeting because of his feelings about overweight guys, but if he and Okie didn't have a good time--then I have to put the blame on Mr. James-- and that just confirms for me that I was lucky to have missed him. By the way if anyone is interested in seeing what Steve James looked like-- I found this website which shows his picture. Considering who else is on the website, I doubt it's been updated for years. He is the escort in the lower left corner.

 

http://www.jockbutt.com/profiles_05.php

 

Gman