Overnight rates and actually listening to clients

[Michael Wayne]

I have been listening to my clients lately, alot. The one thing they are saying the most is that our overnight rates are getting a bit steep in this economy. As a result of this I have lowered mine by $200 . Rate was $1,000 and now is $800. This descision was based also on the huge increase in air fares and on hotel rooms of any quality. Also, there seems to be alot of confusion as to just what an, "overnight," means. For me it is a 24 hour period from the time I board the flight to the time I board the return flight. This gives me time to get to know the client. the confusion comes when you are in your home city or a travel city and a client calls at 9pm for an, "overnight," till 7am the next morning. Is that rate the same since less time is involved? I think not. My rate for that is $500 which is a significant cut from what I was charging. I would like to hear from clients and fellow escorts on this subject. My hourly business is better than ever but it is clear that fewer and fewer clients are doing local or travel overnights which is a part of the biz that I really like. Hope everyone has a great Easter weekend!!! http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1

[Scorpio]

Those rates are in line with what I've paid in the past, usually $500-$750.. I do less overnights these days, more because I'm a restless sleeper ad don't want to subject anyone to that...although I'd never go above $800

 

I've only paid above $800 once and it was a complete disappoitment. I caught a then well know escort a few months before he had a major meltdown and retired.

[JT Brooklyn]

Overniters have always been either you think they are "worth the exspense" or you don't! In a Major Market they have become a Rich Guys Hobby.

 

I have done them over the Year's..BUT always thought is it really necessary to "Pay a Guy to Sleep" when you can have 1 Guy at 8 PM for 2 Hrs then another Guy at 9 A.M. FOR 2 Hrs for actually less AND never run out of Conversation? LOL

[hunkymuscles]

My overnight rate has been $700 for a while now. To me an overnight covers a 12 hour period. None of my overnight have involved any sort of airplane travel and I don't get many requests for them. If there were air travel involved that went beyond the 12 hr period, then I would charge my day rate (24/hrs) which is $1,000. I rarely get requests for those as well. I offer a discounted rate after the secound hr. Many clients have taken advantage of that and have schedule 2-3 hour sessions.

 

Rex (San Francisco)

 

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[MiamiLooker]

Overniters have always been either you think they are "worth the exspense" or you don't! In a Major Market they have become a Rich Guys Hobby.

 

I have done them over the Year's..BUT always thought is it really necessary to "Pay a Guy to Sleep" when you can have 1 Guy at 8 PM for 2 Hrs then another Guy at 9 A.M. FOR 2 Hrs for actually less AND never run out of Conversation? LOL

 

I'm one of those that doesn't find them worth the expense. Years ago I hired for overnights and as a travel companion a few times, but it didn't take me long to realize I don't hire "to get to know" someone. An hour or two is plenty to fulfill a fantasy.

[gtx1]

Frankly, I love having a guy in the bed during the night. I hire when I travel and want to make the most of my time. If I can afford it I try to go for it but I think the prices are a little steep. In my opinion 500 to 700 is about the right price for a 12 hour overnight. I would go for that every time.

 

This was a topic of discussion in the "pricing" topic in the escorting business 101 discussion I'm having with a number of you. Escorts interested in the pricing paper PM me with your email address.

 

GTX

[Michael Wayne]

I like Rex's terms: overnight is 12 hrs and day rate is 24 hrs. Maybe if we all adopted uniform and standard terms it would eliminate the confusion....So, for me, to clarify, my overnight rate (12hrs.) is $500 and my day rate (24 hrs.) is $1,000. I am NOT advocating standard rates (no way) but stANDARD TERMS would really help.

[doitb4ugo]

I have only had 1 overnight and will not do so again...It was a lot of money and no more action that a 2-3 hour session...just spread out more...

Also I like a good night's sleep...which I did not get...(no we were not up all night having fun....I just couldn't sleep with a good looking guy in the bed with me).

 

I might be more inclined to hire for 12 hours during the daytime....where we might have fun and do something together for companionship when travelling.....

 

I generally think 3 hours is about the right amount of time...if the escort discounts multiple hours...

[seeker630]

I like Rex's terms: overnight is 12 hrs and day rate is 24 hrs. Maybe if we all adopted uniform and standard terms it would eliminate the confusion....So, for me, to clarify, my overnight rate (12hrs.) is $500 and my day rate (24 hrs.) is $1,000. I am NOT advocating standard rates (no way) but stANDARD TERMS would really help.

 

I recall another thread here in which a client had inquired about a 'day rate' and seemed to think that it meant a discounted rate for 'off-peak' hours (i.e.daytime).

 

Perhaps 'full day' is a less ambiguous term?

 

Whatever you decide, you're still going to have to explain it (parenthetically at least) because there IS no standard & it's unlikely that the majority of the world's escorts (or even the US ones) will read this thread.

 

I'm not saying you shouldn't strive for consistent terminology - I'm just saying don't count on everyone to understand it without explanation.

[JT Brooklyn]

I have only had 1 overnight and will not do so again...It was a lot of money and no more action that a 2-3 hour session...just spread out more...

Also I like a good night's sleep...which I did not get...(no we were not up all night having fun....I just couldn't sleep with a good looking guy in the bed with me).

 

I might be more inclined to hire for 12 hours during the daytime....where we might have fun and do something together for companionship when travelling.....

 

I generally think 3 hours is about the right amount of time...if the escort discounts multiple hours...

 

DoIt..After having the "Overnite Deals" come up in conversation over the Years with others ..Your Experience of trying it once and making it a "one time only thing" for different reasons is the experience of most.

 

There are those "Working Guys" who just donot do Overniter's for their reasons from their end!

 

I do "applaud" their Honesty rather than try to fake a GoodTime!

[Epigonos]

A discussion of various aspects of overnight encounters tends to reoccur, on this site, with some frequency. I have never paid more than $1,000 for an overnight and that was only once or twice a number of years ago. I quickly learned after my first couple of overnight that I actually preferred SLEEPING alone. If I wanted more than a onetime encounter with an out of town or traveling guy I hired him for dinner and a couple of hours of play time on two consecutive evenings. The cost was the same as an overnight and the total amount of time playing was also about equal. I do travel with an escort for a week twice a year but this type of arrangement is very different from, for example, seven consecutive overnights.

[RexAll]

A discussion of various aspects of overnight encounters tends to reoccur, on this site, with some frequency. I have never paid more than $1,000 for an overnight and that was only once or twice a number of years ago. I quickly learned after my first couple of overnight that I actually preferred SLEEPING alone. If I wanted more than a onetime encounter with an out of town or traveling guy I hired him for dinner and a couple of hours of play time on two consecutive evenings. The cost was the same as an overnight and the total amount of time playing was also about equal. I do travel with an escort for a week twice a year but this type of arrangement is very different from, for example, seven consecutive overnights.

 

I get lonely at night--so in the past-I've done more overnights--but the economy and rising escort fees have decreased the number of my overnights. When I first started $ 700 to 800.00 was the norm, now it usually seems to be $1000 to 1500.00. Since I have to fly guys to me--there being no one near--it gets very pricey.

 

But Mr. Epi--can we ask who the lucky escorts are who get to go on a vacation with you?

 

Rex

[Epigonos]

Rex there is ONLY one and his name is Steven Kesslar/San Francisco. He is the best of the best in every way imaginable.

[adriano46]

As many have already stated, as I get older I find I do not enjoy the overnights anymore for two or three reasons:

 

1) I get little sleep (and not from all-night sex, but somehow cannot fall deeply asleep when a sort-of stranger is asleep next to me);

2) I usually contact a guy for about $200/hr and like guys more who have special rates for multiple hours (3 hours beig my MAXIMUM). It is far cheaper than $1,000.

3) I have learned that it is not such great idea of really get to know a guy so much that... well I am not going to become his new BFF so why all the effort?

 

The economy, costs involved in flying a guy in, and just all the angst involved in an overnight are no longer worth it.

[Guest Spanker01]

Rex's comments also apply to my situation. I either have to wait until the right travelling escort arrives or fly someone in. Then of course you are dealing with travel expenses, and that will jack the price up. Now if I lived in a major market it would be different, then I would do multiple hours, i.e. dinner, sports event, etc., then home for some play time. Or perhaps just an hour or two.

 

Spanker

[leigh.bess.toad]

I may be different than the rest of you. I've really only done one "traditional" overnighter as well as Palm Springs weekend. And I loved it. For one reason. I'm a cuddler and I love snuggling with the escort(s) at night and in the morning. I actually can't wait to start doing more of them. In a lot of ways, just the gentle and tender cuddling before sleep and when waking up for me is a lot more intimate than even the sex. That's how I feel the most connected to my escorts. That to me is the real BFE.

[KMEM]

Absolutely. It just depends upon whether you wish to be "connected" with the escort physically or mentally. Both is nice.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Decatur Guy]

I simply can't afford $1,000 for one-time meeting -- especially knowing that could pay for five encounters throughout the year.

[+ sf westcoaster]

With the exception of travel I have done relatively few overnights. For me an overnight is not about marathon sex, but rather companionship - dinner, a theatre, conversation and some sexual activity. If sex is the sole objective, then I hire by the hour.

[dane michaels]

I have been listening to my clients lately, alot. The one thing they are saying the most is that our overnight rates are getting a bit steep in this economy. As a result of this I have lowered mine by $200 . Rate was $1,000 and now is $800. This descision was based also on the huge increase in air fares and on hotel rooms of any quality. Also, there seems to be alot of confusion as to just what an, "overnight," means. For me it is a 24 hour period from the time I board the flight to the time I board the return flight. This gives me time to get to know the client. the confusion comes when you are in your home city or a travel city and a client calls at 9pm for an, "overnight," till 7am the next morning. Is that rate the same since less time is involved? I think not. My rate for that is $500 which is a significant cut from what I was charging. I would like to hear from clients and fellow escorts on this subject. My hourly business is better than ever but it is clear that fewer and fewer clients are doing local or travel overnights which is a part of the biz that I really like. Hope everyone has a great Easter weekend!!! http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1

 

Agreed Mikey9. The economy is not back up to par yet, so I think you are right in your decision. I have done similar and adjusted weekend rates also to accommodate further, I feel its fair to the men we take care of. High five to you.

[down_to_business]

I for one, appreciate your decision to try and standardize terms like overnight to 24 hours etc. Also, if I was on the fence about hiring you, your decision to make your rates reasonable for these types of appointments would make it easy for me to say yes.

[Rick Munroe]

I may be different than the rest of you...In a lot of ways, just the gentle and tender cuddling before sleep and when waking up for me is a lot more intimate than even the sex.

 

We feel the same way. It's the best part (that, and deep sensual kissing). Sometimes our hourlies end up lasting much longer because we love to just lay and cuddle and doze off afterward, like a pile of puppies in a pet store window.

[JoeyBryant]

I still feel overnights have their price for a reason...however not everyone is willing to do them and that's alright.

 

However, if it's any help it's best to just spend some time together prior to doing 1. Although I don't do overnights too often, I do multi-hours and evenings as well which work great for me.

 

An overnight isn't simply 12 hours. It's taking off the day prior (possibly the day prior to that) and the day after to ensure the overnight is getting 100% and the client after the overnight is getting 100%. Which is actually 72 hours. And if it involves hopping on an airplane, multiply that times 3. Hell, I'll take the whole week off for a client. An evening is not 12 hours. An evening is 3-5 hours. 12 hours then you start going into A.M. which is technically morning which is 'over' the night. So I don't quite agree with Mikey's alteration of the time structure there.

 

Ask yourself, do you wanna be steep or do you wanna be cheap? Steep is 14,000 feet up to the summit of Pikes Peak. This economy isn't getting cheaper so why should our rates?

[orbital sander]

 

An overnight isn't simply 12 hours. It's taking off the day prior (possibly the day prior to that) and the day after to ensure the overnight is getting 100% and the client after the overnight is getting 100%. Which is actually 72 hours.

 

Huh?

[Rick Munroe]

An overnight isn't simply 12 hours. It's taking off the day prior (possibly the day prior to that) and the day after to ensure the overnight is getting 100% and the client after the overnight is getting 100%. Which is actually 72 hours. And if it involves hopping on an airplane, multiply that times 3. Hell, I'll take the whole week off for a client.

 

Not to mention all the months spent in the gym so we can look our best-- wait, then there were all the years going to school so we could someday be able to carry on a dinner conversation -- and going further back, taking our first baby steps and learning to walk so that someday we could arrive at the hotel on time...so really, we're talking about an overnight equaling an entire lifetime.