Annual Palm Springs Weekend, 2011

[leigh.bess.toad]

Well said jackhammer.. The problem I had is when IndyMedic call his date "my boy" IndyMedic I know who your date is in fact he is a very close friend of mine. I can tell you IndyMedic he is not a boy. He is just like you and I a MAN. So don't down grade him to a boy, show him respect in the forum and treat him well in person. Its a party have fun and relax. Your date is love by everybody. Let him enjoy the party to.

 

 

Thanks Niner 2323

 

Well for one thing niner, I think it's safe to say that he does treat him well in person because if he didn't, the gentleman in question wouldn't keep seeing him. So that has got to be a given. Are there any escorts out there who would keep seeing a client who did not treat them with respect, especially when that escort is well regarded and in demand? No, of course not. Therefore, logic dictates that he must be treating him well. And if an escort does continue to see a client who does not treat them well, then that escort has issues he needs to deal with himself.

 

"My boy", "my guy" "my" whatever, may be a term between the two of them and while it may or may not be to your or my preference in language, I don't necessarily in and of itself see negative connotations in it. If the escort has a problem with the terminology, it is his place to address it with Indy. I believe it is neither your place nor mine to complain.

 

As far as respect in the forum, Indy has shown him nothing but respect to the gentleman in the forum. He has sung his praises from sea to shining sea, extolling his virtues to any and all listeners -- and many who weren't even listeners. That certainly is respectful -- virtually reverential.

 

Some of the fears he and others may have had have been addressed by Oliver and other regular attendees. It appears that the incident from last year, especially as it was portrayed to those of us who will be new attendees, was definitely the aberration, not the norm. At first, that was a bit unclear to some. But the clarification is what I, and most if not all of us, wanted to hear. There will be plenty of time for our own private entertainment behind closed doors. And I had hoped that this had been resolved days ago, put to bed, and we would have gotten back to the business of talking about having a great party, meeting friends here on the forum, renewing acquaintances and meeting escorts that because of distance we have never met in person. This is supposed to be a fun, relaxed affair. This is not the Hedonism resort in the Caribbean. As I've said on several posts now, Oliver's phrase, "A Gathering of Gentlemen" should be the guiding phrase for ALL of us. What has been said has been said. It is time to stop beating the dead horse. Hopefully everyone has learned a few things about themselves and others. I believe any and all ambiguities about the event have been completely and totally obliterated. And I hope that the brouhaha over what type of event this is going to be, and the anticipated behavior and comportment of all attendees is over. A Gathering of Gentlemen.

 

However, it does seem a bit suspicious to me that a newbie on his first post is a very close personal friend of the gentlemen in question. Or is niner2323 merely an artifice for another regular poster? And if that is the case, I am left to wonder for what purpose has this new personality been constructed? If the gentleman in question is indeed a very close friend of yours, why not identify yourself for all to see? If you feel he is being treated badly, stand up for him. If you have reason to believe he is not being treated well in person, tell us why you believe that. Don't merely cast aspersions that insinuate that he is not being treated well in person, which is exactly what you did. Where else, other than the disagreement you have with the "my boy" terminology, has he been shown anything but respect in the forum? You cannot point to any because there are none. To me, your post was simply an ad hominem attack and again I ask: for what purpose??

 

However, enough of that. Can we please get back to the purpose of the thread and the reason why we are here on it: to talk about the weekend and the parties -- not the personalities of the attendees.

[instudiocity]

However, it does seem a bit suspicious to me that a newbie on his first post is a very close personal friend of the gentlemen in question. Or is niner2323 merely an artifice for another regular poster? And if that is the case, I am left to wonder for what purpose has this new personality been constructed?

Lee,

I believe you've found your idiot in aluminum foil. Just be careful what you wish for next time. BTW, 92323 is a Zip Code right square dab in the middle of the Mojave Desert aka The Middle Of No Where aka Bumfuck Egypt. I think you've nailed Niner2323 for his split-personality.

R

[Steven_Draker]

... this tread is making me visualize a HUGE cat-fight with naked escorts running around the pool furniture taking cover. All This drama makes me re-consider as well (only for about 1/10th of a second)...maybe a live web cam would be good. I can see it now, "Drama Weekend" in the Desert

 

Very funny, Orbital. Thanks for the laugh.

 

That would make a terrible plot for a movie and a musical on Broadway ...

[NYTomcat]

ISC & OS. I really hope you do decide to come. We could use your sense of humor at the festivities. Lol.

 

As for this hullabaloo about clothing optional ... that's for escort and client to decide one on one. Indy is far from disrespectful in any way regarding his boy... and speaking as an often cast daddy ... I like that term of endearment. If indy made any mistake it was even mentioning his insecurity in this aspect with the forum at large. An easy mistake to make. Talk to your boy and know this gathering of gentleman support that. Ok enough on that, sorry niner but I've learned not to feed the troll. Though I must admit.... you do sound alot like someone else I know.

[Epigonos]

I am speaking only for myself when I say what I am about to say. Additionally, I am going to apologize, right up front, if what I say offends anybody.

 

I realize that I’m old and I’m not really sure if that explains my concern with semantics and the meaning of words or not. I will be bringing Steven Kesslar to the Palm Springs Weekend. Kesslar will NOT be my “date” nor will he be my “boy”. He will be my paid guest. For me the word “date” implies a degree of emotional attachment that cannot really exist in the business relationship between a client and an escort. As to the word “boy” that implies a degree of subservience that went out of style many decades ago. All of the escorts I know, and I know quite a few of them, are intelligent, mature, thoughtful ADULT MEN. They are also in the business of selling companionship. All of us who hire escorts MUST understand the difference between companionship and love. We are hiring guys for campionship and when we become confused about that fact we are heading for trouble.

[Steven_Draker]

They are also in the business of selling sex ...

 

We are hiring guys for sex and when we become confused about that fact we are heading for trouble.

 

When you say that escorts are "selling sex" you're automatically calling for trouble. I hope you have 'friends' in the Palm Springs Police Department and the Vice Squad.

 

I'd prefer the term 'selling companionship'. For the rest of your post you're right on the money.

[MscleLovr]

I understand SD's desire for semantics about escorting, but I disagree. I wish to thank Epigonos for 'hitting the nail on the head' with his post.

[+ deej]

I understand SD's desire for semantics about escorting, but I disagree. I wish to thank Epigonos for 'hitting the nail on the head' with his post.

 

Officially, this site has to agree with Steven.

 

And, really, nobody is paying an escort for sex during Oliver's pool event. I suspect Oliver himself would break out the fire extinguishers should that happen.

 

What you do during the rest of your time together is up to you. This site assumes money is exchanged for time only.

 

(please?)

[NYTomcat]

Well as the romantic I hire for companionship just as Steven put it . Though sex is often part of that "time" but no I hire fore more than sex but this is an old discussion....

[Epigonos]

Steven and Deej are absolutely correct and I apologize for using the incorrect word. I stand corrected. Legally we hire for companionship. I have edited my previous post accordingly. Thank you.

[+ deej]

Thank you!

 

(And just for the record: HUBBA HUBBA!)

[instudiocity]

...Legally we hire for companionship.

 

Hell, I can get laid for a whole lot less than $200/hr. About $20 and a bathroom stall would get my rocks off, my nuts drained, and my nightly erections to subside for a time. I hire escorts for their companionship, their mental stimulation, their personality; and if two gay guys wind up taking a roll in the sack, well, that's between two consenting gay adults desiring to spend their time mentally & horizontally connecting, so to speak, to the point of ejaculation, not necessarily payment.

I'm always laid in my head before I'm ever laid in the bed.

[instudiocity]

... ejaculation, not necessarily payment.

 

No, that's not an excuse to withhold a gratuity.

[jasoncarter_dfw]

Just received my itinerary today...now time to go swimsuit shopping!

[leigh.bess.toad]

Just received my itinerary today...now time to go swimsuit shopping!

 

You want to let the rest of us in on where?

[NYTomcat]

Just received my itinerary today...now time to go swimsuit shopping!

 

While I am almost certain you could wear a Walmart sale rag and make it look like Couture. Any suggestions on who has the best collection and which designers look good for the season. If im going to be in PS for a week I better have the right gear.

[Diverdan]

Hey Tom,

I suspect you will look great in any clothes, or lack of any clothes! Bring on the speedos, briefs, boxers, etc., as it is not about the clothes, it is about the men who will be there.. short, fat, tall, skinny, muscular, what ever... not that I don't enjoy looking at fine young hunky guys, but it seems to me the weekend is really about meeting guys who post on the Forum...and their guests, of course, but I don't see this as an event to influence the EOY or any other contest. Just go and enjoy. I am so bummed that I can't get there due to work commitments, but will try again next year.

DD

[RockHard]

Oh yeah.

 

...now time to go swimsuit shopping!

If I were you, I would take cell phone photos of all the candidates and let the public decide. (Feel free to send some copies to my inbox.)

[+ Oliver]

...now time to go swimsuit shopping!

 

I would suggest that it be easily removed! Nearing tme for 2011's version of "Venus Rising From the Sea".

(I do like RH's suggestion about photos - but send them to me!)

[instudiocity]

(I do like RH's suggestion about photos - but send them to me!)

 

Oliver as sponsor of the soiree, you could require pre-party approval photos of all swimsuits and pick those allowed to remove said swimsuit. Can I be your assistant?

[+ Oliver]

Swimwear

 

... could require pre-party approval photos of all swimsuits and pick those allowed to remove said swimsuit ...

 

For Clients - Don't remove!

http://www.gallimauphry.com/blog/1880s%2001.jpg

 

For Escorts - OK to remove!

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=327947072105&id=ece988a52b4db95ef2ad4b019466005d&index=ch1

[Diverdan]

Oliver,

I love your sense of humor... I'd like to suggest the reverse... put the clients in thongs and speedos and the escorts in those "cover up" swim suits! If nothing more than as a gag at the beginning of the party! Have fun, which I know you will.

DD

[instudiocity]

But @ 54, I can't grow a mustache!

 

And let's hope the Escorts are not that proportionately smaller than the clients!

[Diverdan]

For you, instudiocity, I would make an exception on the mustache ~!!!! And, I don't think you will have to worry about the size of the escorts in any department... LOL

[instudiocity]

For you, instudiocity, I would make an exception on the mustache ~!!!! And, I don't think you will have to worry about the size of the escorts in any department... LOL

 

I was afraid if the escorts are normal sized men, the clients as depicted would be candidates for gastric-bypass!!