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What we need:

 

1. To select a city. I suggest New York because it is the easiest place to get to from anywhere.

 

2. A social event. I suggest an evening buffet, with a cash bar.

 

3. A venue. Best would be a club, but unless somebody here is a member of the Knick or the Century AND is willing to host a bunch of faggots among the swells, we'd better look for some place that's rentable. My thought is a private dining room in a gay-friendly restaurant. A hotel would do as well.

 

4. An angel. Somebody has to guarantee the total cost of the food, otherwise the restaunt owner won't play.

 

5. Commitments, with checks or money orders, from guys who will actually show up, or will pay their share whether they show up or not.

 

6. A Point Man. That is, somebody in New York who'll make the arrangements. I'd do the collecting of the money, or whatever, but I don't live in New York and thus can't do the "hosting" part.

 

7. A SMALL Rules Committee. For instance: (1) Can escorts come and, if so, do they pay full fare like the rest of us? (2) What do we do about real names and anonymity? (3) How do you keep a head count, etc., without real names, telephone numbers, and e-mail addresses?

 

Yes, it will be a lot of work for a few people. But I think the rewards would be great. I'll be there, that's for sure, and I can easily imagine that most of the NYC and Environs contingent would be, too.

 

I wonder how many guys would actually come?????

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>What we need:

>

>1. To select a city. I suggest New York because it is the

>easiest place to get to from anywhere.

 

I agree, NYC would be the most convenient and fun.

>

>2. A social event. I suggest an evening buffet, with a

>cash bar.

 

Sounds reasonable

>

>3. A venue. Best would be a club, but unless somebody here

>is a member of the Knick or the Century AND is willing to

>host a bunch of faggots among the swells, we'd better look

>for some place that's rentable. My thought is a private

>dining room in a gay-friendly restaurant. A hotel would do

>as well.

 

Someone who knows NYC would have a better idea on this than I would.

>

>4. An angel. Somebody has to guarantee the total cost of

>the food, otherwise the restaunt owner won't play.

 

This would be nice, but the best way to go might be to get the venue nailed down by virtue of it being a place willing to host us, with a prospective date in mind, set a deadline for participants submitting payment, and then formally booking the place when the cash is on hand. It might require a deposit, up front, rather than the total amount.

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>5. Commitments, with checks or money orders, from guys who

>will actually show up, or will pay their share whether they

>show up or not.

 

Yes, a must.

>

>6. A Point Man. That is, somebody in New York who'll make

>the arrangements. I'd do the collecting of the money, or

>whatever, but I don't live in New York and thus can't do the

>"hosting" part.

 

I wouldn't be the best person to do this, no longer living close or in NYC, but it would be great if one of our NYC guys could do this.

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>7. A SMALL Rules Committee. For instance: (1) Can escorts

>come and, if so, do they pay full fare like the rest of us?

>(2) What do we do about real names and anonymity? (3) How do

>you keep a head count, etc., without real names, telephone

>numbers, and e-mail addresses?

 

I'd be happy to help with something like this. Of course, I'd be voting to make escorts welcome.....would be nice to have some "roses among the thorns". Some "clients" might like to serve as "sponsor" for a favorite escort they'd like to see in attendance (paying for dinner, but not an hourly fee, of course). Or, as you suggest, a reduced rate or something of that sort. Whoever collects the money could have name tags based on our screen names here to pass out upon arrival at the event. As for privacy and anonymity issues, if you, Will, were the "keeper" of the secrets, I'd certainly be comfortable with that.

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>Yes, it will be a lot of work for a few people. But I think

>the rewards would be great. I'll be there, that's for sure,

>and I can easily imagine that most of the NYC and Environs

>contingent would be, too.

 

I agree

>

>I wonder how many guys would actually come?????

 

I would definitely come, barring any unforseen emergencies or conflicts in work schedule. In any event, I'd be willing to pay in advance even if something prevented me from attending at the last minute.

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>7. A SMALL Rules Committee. For instance: (1) Can escorts

>come and, if so, do they pay full fare like the rest of us?

 

Of course they should be allowed to attend... and in keeping with the 'social theme' they should pay their own way -- this isn't work. There would be benefit potential for those who choose to attend in the marketing opportunity, though I suspect that few would.

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TY: Your appearance on this thread made it clear for me...

 

This event needs to be in Montreal.

 

The whole message board in the village...

 

The twink lovers at Taboo.

 

The mink lovers at Nirvana.

 

The stud lovers at Stock.

 

The man lovers at Campus.

 

And then we all meet at Club Le Sandwich at 3 am.

 

See you there. :9

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It's a nostalgia thing.

 

The buff boys at the Cam-POOSE have been around forever, of course. But does anyone remember the Fiesta Tropicale, up Ste. Catherine a bit, with that greasy rope, stage front?

 

It was there, not that anybody cares, that I broke the house rules (and very nearly my nose) by biting rather too hard the inner thigh of my astonished beloved-of-the-moment.

 

Those were the days.

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Escorts and Locales

 

It depends on if you want just the clients to socialize or if you consider it a community socialization. Escorts do participate like some of the clients in minimal but genuine fashion and may do so more by reading than by posting.

 

I personally feel everyone should be welcome and, of course, it should be social. If gentlemen do wish to sponsor an escort, I am sure that would be appreciated. You should keep in mind that for an escort, a Friday or Saturday may be a prime opportunity for clients and there is an opportunity costs to giving up one of those nights for a purely social function.

 

Personally, I think Montreal is a great city, I had a "honeymoon" there and I think it is affordable and easy to traverse in ways that Manhattan and New York City are not.

 

However, I would vote for San Francisco. Also accessible, a strong gay community, a large number of facilities and more of an open attitude about such a thing as "clients" and their "companions." Hotels are also exceedingly affordable at present and should continue to be so, unfortunately, for a good six months or longer, which is not the case in New York.

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Depends upon when. I'm not planning on leaving CA 'til June of '03; have to be in P'Town for a business conference in June (it's a gay thing as you might guess.)

 

My '03 travel budget is a bit constrained, due to starting a new business, but I love the idea. I think I may have mentioned that an agency here in SF tried something of the sort, but the escorts used the occasion to cut private deals with the clients, rendering the event not profitable for the agency. An independent event stands a much better chance of success.

 

Also, how does this compare to the various HustlaBall functions? A bit more sedate? More cocktail hour-ish?

 

SF Viking

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>This event needs to be in Montreal.

>

My first thought too... but NYC is a great second choice and likely, I thought, to attract a wider attendance. On reconsideration though Montreal may outdraw NY. :-)

 

>The whole message board in the village...

>

>The twink lovers at Taboo.

>

>The mink lovers at Nirvana.

>

>The stud lovers at Stock.

>

>The man lovers at Campus.

>

THis presents me with the age old dilemma of how to be in two (or more ) places simultaneously. Would that all of my problems be this attractive. :-)

 

>And then we all meet at Club Le Sandwich at 3 am.

>

Seems like home for me. :-)

 

>See you there. :9

 

You betcha.

 

Franco,

 

As for escorts sponsored by a client in attendance -- not an issue for me. However, I interpreted WIll's proposition to pose the issue of whether a number of escorts should be 'hired' out of event overhead for a purely social evening. .

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Hey Will,

 

Great idea! It would be fun getting together with some of these guys.

 

When you first mentioned this idea on another thread, you spoke of the possibility of seeing these gatherings happening in other locations as well. Since travel could be a major deterrent for most, a closer location might be more suitable.

 

The ideas of meeting in NYC, Montreal, etc. are all good, however, let's try to get one going in NYC first. Many of our members (that includes escorts) are located in the NY area. I think the best way to get started is, (as someone else mentioned) by a show of "hands". Once you get an idea of how many are interested, you can discuss dates. I think many of us would be more comfortable discussing details through "inbox" messages.

 

Just a thought, depending on the numbers, the Townhouse restaurant (not the bar), a very gay friendly establishment, does cater parties. We can order right off the menu and keep our own tabs. No need to collect the $'s in advance. We just need a firm commitment.

 

Will, give me your thoughts on this...

 

"Cooper"

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OK, here's what we can do:

 

1. If you are interested in helping to plan this event, send me a private message through M4M with your e-mail address. If you don't trust me to maintain your confidentiality, then you probably shouldn't volunteer to help.

 

2. In a week -- say, by Friday the 20th -- I'll report to those who've sent me their e-mail addresses and their willingness to help what the various kinds of opportunities and suggestions have been.

 

3. That group will outline a definite plan, including a city, a venue, the event type, and some possible dates. Once that is done, we'll sound the board members for their wishes.

 

4. Obviously, not everyone will get what he wants. We'll have to do the best we can to accommodate all kinds of variables, and that always means that some people will be disappointed.

 

5. As others have pointed out, however, this could be the start of something big. There's no reason why we couldn't have our own sort of traveling party.

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>Of course they should be allowed to attend... and in keeping

>with the 'social theme' they should pay their own way --

>this isn't work. There would be benefit potential for those

>who choose to attend in the marketing opportunity, though I

>suspect that few would.

 

Completely agree with T.Y. on his answer to #7. I would not agree to "paying" for someone, whether outright or through a discount to come to this event.

 

On the reserving of a venue in NYC, maybe someone could act as the "angel", but find out what the cancellation clause is for a total refund (say - 3 months out, etc.). Then put it to everyone that they have until XX/XX/02 to get their checks in or they won't be able to come. That way the "angel" isn't taking on any real risk. Money orders can preserve those who wish to remain anonymous.

 

On the subject of anonymity/screen names, etc - I suggest that people wear name stickers with their screen names, and leave it up to them to give out their real names or not (no pressure exerted from those who do "come clean"). This may be a deal breaker for any escorts considering attendance as well, keep in mind.

 

Great start-up Will. Count me in!

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>On the subject of anonymity/screen names, etc - I suggest

>that people wear name stickers with their screen names, and

>leave it up to them to give out their real names or not (no

>pressure exerted from those who do "come clean").

 

Hey Chris!

 

Since we both enjoy playing games, :+ won't it be fun trying to guess who the person is by not putting name tags on. Bucky had mentioned that from reading our posts he has a "picture" in his mind of what some of us look like. Perhaps we can let the members guess who we are by giving hints. :p

 

"Cooper"

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>Hey Chris!

>

>Since we both enjoy playing games, :+ won't it be fun trying

>to guess who the person is by not putting name tags on.

>Bucky had mentioned that from reading our posts he has a

>"picture" in his mind of what some of us look like. Perhaps

>we can let the members guess who we are by giving hints.

 

Actually, I think that's a fantastic idea. This game could take place as an "ice breaker" until a certain time, when everyone would be required to whip out their name stickers and affix them to their shirts (or pecs, depending on the person, I guess). Everyone should keep everyone guessing, even if someone else guesses correctly - until the time when the name tags go on. Of course the names on the tags will be our M4M screen names. Disclosure of real names will occur only if the individual chooses to do so.

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Location

 

>I'm strictly West Coast baby :). I vote for Las Vegas, maybe

>we can bring a few retired-by-default escorts back to life

 

No one seems to like San Francisco, so I will not even suggest Los Angeles, but I still think consideration should be given to air fare and housing costs as well as weather. Therefore, Vegas is an additionally excellent suggestion.

 

My one concern would be the authorities. In that regard, Montreal and San Francisco are still top contenders.

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RE: Location

 

I'll jaunt up to SFO anytime. Montreal would also be fun - but in a couple of months - could be too cold for this San Diegan.

 

How 'bout New Orleans - or has everyone done the Decadence thang - been there, done that?

 

So, in order of preference, I'd vote for:

 

1. New York

2. San Francisco

3. Baltimore

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RE: Location

 

Will, what a superb idea. I'm in whether it's in NYC or Montreal. ...never been to Montreal, so this will give me a chance to venture there. I hope it is during the spring of 2003 though!

 

I truly hope that this event will be a go! I'm interested in working on some committee once it's a go, but I do not know how to get into my in box. (Please fellow respondents, don't castigate or castrate me for this!)

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Update

 

Today is Friday the 13th, but so far it's been lucky for this idea. I've had a heartening number of messages and e-mails from 6-8 guys so far. And that's in addition to the contributions on the thread.

 

I'm on my way out of town for the weekend, but early next week I'll try to pull some general consensus issues together and see where we go.

 

As regards the date, to be realistic we need plenty of time for planning. At the moment, I'm thinking about February or March. It would be something red hot to chase away the cold winter blues!

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