UPDATE: Gay Video Role May Get Teacher Fired

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Teacher denies seeking role in porn video

 

By Bill Hirschman

Education Writer

Posted July 20 2002

 

Hoping to further a modeling career, Broward County elementary school teacher Tony Vanchieri says he went to a party last summer at a West Palm Beach mansion, never suspecting that five months later he would be the star of a pornographic video.

 

The video's producer "gave me a pill and he said it's just going to relax me," Vanchieri told a school district investigator, according to records released Friday.

 

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EXCERPT: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 (PlanetOut) -- The Broward County school board in Florida may fire a teacher for appearing online in gay pornography. Tony Vanchieri, 26, a gym teacher at Coconut Creek Elementary, first caught the school board's attention last year when he appeared on the FOX television show "Temptation Island 2." As a "tempter" it was his job to entice women away from their boyfriends on a beautiful beach in Costa Rica. For the full story, go to: http://www.PlanetOut.com/news/article.html?date=2002/05/21/3

 

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[Will]

Where does he teach? I want to go back to school. If that's him "relaxed," I want to see how he acts when he's excited!

[guyinsf]

From either perspective, this is lame. I don't think a teacher should be fired for making a porn movie, but I also don't believe this guy's lame excuse. He doesn't look passed out to me. He's claiming that he was so relaxed that he didn't realize a camera was three feet away from him while he was naked? (He sure is yummy looking, even though he may be having difficulty taking responsibility for his actions.)

[Guest ButchHarris]

Tony the Tempter

 

guyinsf:

 

You're right about his excuse being lame. Plus, his argument is flawed as he admits that he took drugs (willingly) and smoked pot (willingly) -- both illegal activities.

 

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[+ deej]

The excuse is VERY lame. And I can't believe ANY video company would release a video without a signed model release on file.

 

But it's not the first time a teacher has been fired for doing porn. Ty Fox was as well. Of course, in his case HIS WIFE found out and ratted on him if memory serves.

[BewareofNick]

>The excuse is VERY lame. And I can't believe ANY video

>company would release a video without a signed model release

>on file.

>

>But it's not the first time a teacher has been fired for

>doing porn. Ty Fox was as well. Of course, in his case HIS

>WIFE found out and ratted on him if memory serves.

 

Your memory is correct, deej. Our current Temptation island teacher here offerd this particularly lame excuse after he realized what damage had been done to his reputation. The "everyone else is responsible except me" excuse.

 

Former MTV-veejay, and Felicity guest star Simon Rex, also tried to offer excuses for his solo jack-off work for Brad Posey.

[Guest ButchHarris]

It Wasn't Me

 

BewareofNick:

 

"Tony the Tempter" is not a very good liar. If he wanted to come up with an excuse, he should have just said that the person depicted in the video is his doppelgänger. The drugs and "I didn't know what was going on" bullshit will not save him.

 

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[Will]

RE: It Wasn't Me

 

>"Tony the Tempter" is not a very good liar.

 

Maybe not. But I still want him to teach me a thing or two.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>From either perspective, this is lame. I don't think a

>teacher should be fired for making a porn movie

 

Getting fired may be the best thing thatever happened to him.

As a teacher he is probably earning about 35K and has to put up with all the crap students dish out these days.

 

With his looks he could make mega $$ in the sex trade industry and his little episode has given him a lot of free publicity to get him started.

 

Go Tony!

 

Thunderbuns

[Rick Munroe]

That pic makes me sad; the dick needs my mouth on it. :9

[Guest TexasTaurus]

He should be terminated....

 

There are those professions that must be held to a higher standard. While I do not believe that sexual orientation by itself is a reason to terminate teachers, making this kind of video, gay or straight, definitely is a reason.

 

He should be terminated.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

RE: He should be terminated....

 

>There are those professions that must be held to a higher

>standard. While I do not believe that sexual orientation by

>itself is a reason to terminate teachers, making this kind

>of video, gay or straight, definitely is a reason.

>

>He should be terminated.

 

T.T. I must disagree with your reasoning and conclusion.

 

I don't really feel that the teaching profession - or the students he teaches - would be served by his dismisal. It's easy to say that this profession must be held to a higher standard. But exactly what higher standard are you alluding to.

 

I very much doubt:

 

(a) His students would ever have seen this video if it were not for

the scandal and publicity surounding this case.

 

(b) He would ever try to molest any of his students.

 

© He would ever advocate in class that this type of behaviour was

to be undertaken.

 

So, what's the problem or supposed danger to those entrusted to him for their education. None, as far as I can see. What he does in his private life should in no way reflect upon his ability and suitability to educate. The porn should be a non-issue as it is unlikely that anyone would see it. And if you were to terminate all teachers under the age of 40 for occasional illicit drug use, I bet you would reduce the ranks by a good 50%.

 

We should not sit in judgement of this guy - it's not as if he spirited away Elizabeth Smart.

 

And as much as I am loathe to bring up the Ethan subject again, nobody here seemed to have a problem with him being a prostitute - an illegal activity - while espousing that he wanted to become a lawyer, which is also a profession that some would argue, should be held to a "higher standard"

 

Sometimes we tend to climb up on our high horse when perhaps a pony would do the trick!

 

Thunderbuns

[HooBoy]

RE: He should be terminated....

 

>>>Sometimes we tend to climb up on our high horse when perhaps a pony would do the trick!<<<

 

Would that be "one-trick pony?"

 

I would not have approved of my kid being taught by a teacher who allowed him/herself to be captured on video in such a way. It shows poor judgement and he/she is molding my child's mind.

 

Likewise, I think child-molesting Catholic priests and their superiors who turn a blind eye because they would prefer riding the pony are scum.

[Guest ButchHarris]

Porn Stars and Priests

 

HooBoy:

 

How is a porn video a show of poor judgement? It's adult entertainment made for and by adults. Tony appeared on a TV show made for a certain audience and that's acceptable, so I'm not sure how a porn video is any different. His contract as a teacher may prohibit moonlighting in general but legal activities -- good or bad taste -- should be protected. It would only be a show of poor judgment, in my view, if he discussed the video with his students. From what I understand, that is not the case.

 

What the Catholic priests have been accused of was illegal, not just in conflict with their job description.

 

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[Guest Thunderbuns]

RE: Porn Stars and Priests

 

>HooBoy:

>

>How is a porn video a show of poor judgement? It's adult

>entertainment made for and by adults. Tony appeared on a TV

>show made for a certain audience and that's acceptable, so

>I'm not sure how a porn video is any different. His contract

>as a teacher may prohibit moonlighting in general but legal

>activities -- good or bad taste -- should be protected. It

>would only be a show of poor judgment, in my view, if he

>discussed the video with his students. From what I

>understand, that is not the case.

>

>What the Catholic priests have been accused of was illegal,

>not just in conflict with their job description.

 

Thank you Butch - that was my point as well. He has done nothing illegal by making the video.

 

Thunderbuns

[bluenix]

Bad Taste? Hahahahahah

 

>Tony appeared on a TV

>show made for a certain audience and that's acceptable, so

>I'm not sure how a porn video is any different. His contract

>as a teacher may prohibit moonlighting in general but legal

>activities -- good or bad taste -- should be protected. It

>would only be a show of poor judgment, in my view, if he

>discussed the video with his students. From what I

>understand, that is not the case.

 

You and Thunderass don't know any breeding heterosexuals, do you.

[Guest ButchHarris]

Apple for Teacher

 

bluenix:

 

I totally get why they're going after him -- that's in no way surprising (he lives and works in the Bible Belt, for crying out loud). They would, no doubt, go after a woman who appeared in Playboy on the same baseless grounds. But, I was questioning HooBoy's condemnation, not the Florida school board's.

 

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[HooBoy]

RE: Apple for Teacher

 

I did not say he did anything illegal or even wrong. I did not say he should be fired. I said I thought he exercised poor judgement. Being that he has daily contact with young kids I wonder what else he might skew for an impressionable young mind.

 

If I were the parent of a child there, I would not want him influencing my kid. Should he be fired? I really do not know. My parents quietly yanked me out of a third grade class when they disapproved of a teacher they did not think was right for their kid -- and look how I turned out. :+

 

But they never demanded her head...

[Guest ButchHarris]

Benefit of the Doubt

 

HooBoy:

 

Thanks for your explanation. But it seems that you believe that because he made a porn video that he is more likely to say or do something inappropriate with the children he works with as a teacher (I disagree with that argument as there are those who make that same argument with regard to homosexuality). That's an unfair prejudice, especially coming from someone who seems to have a respect and appreciation for the adult industry. What someone does in their private life, more often than not, has nothing to do with how they conduct themselves on the job.

 

His punishment should be based on his actions alone. If he hasn't done anything to harm the children he works with, and he has a good record as a teacher, he should be given the benefit of the doubt. We shouldn’t punish someone for what we believe they may or may not do in the future. Innocent until proven guilty, no?

 

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[HooBoy]

RE: Benefit of the Doubt

 

Hi Butch,

 

I do have a respect and appreciation for the adult industry.

 

I think this grade school teacher put his penis out for the public to admire and I do not look upon that as a private act. (I am not stooping for the pun here.)

 

I agree he is innocent of anything. He's just a bit tacky for the kids and if I were a straight person I would not want him teaching mine. Most parents are straight, I think.

 

Personally, I think he's hot, but because of his lack of judgement, he may not be the brightest florescent tube in the classroom. Even as a gay parent, I really would not want my child to be influenced by a dimwit.

 

On the other hand, I would have Lukas Ridgeston over for Thanksgiving dinner any day with no qualms because he is what he is. I'm sure if Howdy Doody dropped his jeans and wrangled himself into a dildo for Buffalo Bob, people would be outraged.

 

(Ruh Roh, calendar alert!)

[Guest ButchHarris]

In Public View

 

HooBoy:

 

I totally understand where you're coming from, but couldn't disagree more. There should be no shame in expressing one's sexuality -- in public or private -- as long as all involved are respected. Yes, he decided to make a video that would be available for public consumption, but not for his underage students. There are many of his colleagues I'm sure who gamble and drink or whatever and their students are not aware of this less-than-perfect behavior because it's something minors cannot be a part of. They would not be fired or reprimanded for drinking or gambling if no laws were broken in the process. Many God-fearing folks I know do not approve of drinking or gambling, but tolerate other adults who do because it's legal to do so. Pornography, in that regard, is no different. Adult activity for adult consumption.

 

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[KY_TOP]

RE: Benefit of the Doubt

 

>Hi Butch,

>

>I do have a respect and appreciation for the adult industry.

>

>I think this grade school teacher put his penis out for the

>public to admire and I do not look upon that as a private

>act. (I am not stooping for the pun here.)

>

>I agree he is innocent of anything. He's just a bit tacky

>for the kids and if I were a straight person I would not

>want him teaching mine. Most parents are straight, I think.

>

>Personally, I think he's hot, but because of his lack of

>judgement, he may not be the brightest florescent tube in

>the classroom. Even as a gay parent, I really would not

>want my child to be influenced by a dimwit.

 

You bring up a good point, now let me go one step further.

I have been with several escorts that are students. Does this mean you would not want them to teach your kids either after they graduate? Many escorts have websites were they "put his penis out for the public to admire" not to mention our much admired Coverboys each day.

 

Don't want to seem one sided here so what about a client, that is a teacher, do you want him teaching your children?

 

When I was in High School(early 70's), I had an uncle that knew my science teacher. He told me a story about one night were the two of them got High smoking pot and they ran thru a flower bed in a public place singing Tip Toe Thru The Tulips. A few days later I mentioned my uncle to this teacher and referenced that my uncle said they liked to Tip Toe Thru The Tulips. He turned very red faced and said nothing. He was a very good and professional teacher, No BS and actually did not have a sense of humor in the classroom. Even though he occasionally asked about my uncle, I felt it in my best interest not to mention the Tiny Tim story again. The funny thing is this teacher is now the Asst Supt. of Schools for Transportation and oversees drug testing of Bus drivers. Do you think he should not have been a teacher? Asst Supt?

 

I feel a person's private life is their business, regardless of a person's profession. I beleive this guy is a Phys. Ed. teacher and I must admit when I was in school my P.E.Jock teachers were not the brightest florescent tubes either but with my Hormones raging in 9th grade P.E. class there were a couple of teachers I'd loved to have seen in a video.

 

I must admit that some of the brightest and nicest people I have met in the last year have been escorts and porn stars. One of my favorites and nicest, has just announced he is returning to College. I have 2 children, college age (tried the if I get married and have kids,I won't be gay thing 25 years ago, been divorced 20 years).

I would not have a problem with anyone of them in the classroom teaching my kids. I beleive they would be as professional in the classroom teaching, as they have been with me in private, and would leave that Private part of their life were it belongs, IN PRIVATE.

[Guest ButchHarris]

One Nation Under G-Strings

 

KY_TOP:

 

Thanks for sharing your wonderful story!

 

I agree with you when you say that many escorts are very intelligent guys who should not be judged negatively because they are only one side of the equation -- it takes two to tango. Many clients are professional folks who are often respected in their respective communities and pay taxes (which includes schools) just like everyone else. It's unfortunate that sex workers (escorts, porn stars, dancers, etc.) do not get the respect and protection under the law that they deserve -- especially from those who partake of their services.

 

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[BobbyB]

RE: Benefit of the Doubt

 

If I understood Hooboy's point correctly, I think what he was TRYING to say (and I really do wish he'd take more time in formulating his thoughts sometimes) is that this teacher has to accept responsibility for his actions.

Right or wrong, valid or grossly ignorant, the fallout of his actions was not only understandable - it was completely predictable. In his heart of hearts, he knows full well his actions were so blatantly stupid that he deserves what he gets. Lofty pontification about his right to express his sexuality isn't the point, nor do I think it was Hooboy's.

 

I doubt that this story would muster up much more than a yawn if this was Europe. But it isn't. It's here in the US of A where we are only marginally more sophisticated than when the Pilgrims stumbled out of the boat (quite possibly on their heads). And regardless of the sex issue, I have to wonder if I'd want my little darlings taking a field trip with this guy if he can't even keep HIMSELF out of harm's way! ;-)

 

Personally, I hope he can salvage his career, although I have to wonder how important it is to him considering how important being in front of a camera - any camera - seems to be to him. But regardless of what I hope, or what I may think, he has to accept responsibility for his own actions. And THAT, I believe, was Hooboy's point.

 

Hooboy? Care to comment?

 

- BobbyB

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