Stupidity acknowledged

[TruthBTold]

Not sure if I should ask this here or in another forum. I have slowly been getting to know a guy. He told me upfront that he was HIV-positive and asked me if that would be a problem if we ever became romantically linked. I said that I did not think so but later realized I was not exactly sure what that meant sexually. Other than condomed anal, what other restrictions are advisable now for HIV sex? Is the medical establishment suggesting any kind of prophylatic medication that has the sexual boundaries to be expanded? Thanks.

[+ Lucky]

"Is the medical establishment suggesting any kind of prophylatic medication that has the sexual boundaries to be expanded? Thanks."

 

So far, condoms are the best protection after abstinence. There is a plan which provides HIV meds to someone who may have become infected to stop the drug in its tracks. It's given to hospital workers who get an accidental needle poke, or to someone who was exposed when a condom broke. From what I hear, it is effective, but considered more for emergency than as a long-term plan to stay uninfected.

 

There are many men in relationships with person who have HIV and they manage to stay negative. We do know how to avoid infection. So if you care enough about the guy to enter into a relationship, one would hope that you both could work towards a safe pattern of behavior.

[+ Travis69]

I would ask him if he is on medication and what his viral load is. I applaud his honesty in telling you now. Some wouldn't be so honest.

[+ Lucky]

Why would it matter what his medication and viral load was?

[+ Travis69]

Actually I said if he is on medication meaning he is trying to take care of himself and minimize the threat of spreading the disease to another person. If his viral load is undetectable I personally would feel more at ease having sex with him compared to a person who was not taking medication and controlling the viral load.

[+ Lucky]

But you would still use a condom?

[Luv2play]

It is now well established that people with HIV who are on meds and keeping their viral load at the undetectable level are less likely to infect their sexual partners even if "accidents" happen.

 

When people are infected initially, the viral load spikes, then decreases as the body's immune system fights back. Over time, however, if left untreated, the viral load in the blood increases exponentially. The medications available today are largely able to keep viral loads at minimal levels in the blood, if the meds are taken consistently.

 

The HIV virus is quite fragile and doesn't survive long once exposed to air. It transmits most effectively through blood to blood contact.

 

These are all facts which should be well known in the gay community today.

[+ Travis69]

I would recommend using a condom with all people during anal sex regardless of what they think or know their status to be. I personally don't participate in any type of anal sex. I just don't like anal sex either way. I do enjoy oral sex and do not feel a need for a condom. After talking to doctor and my dentist I feel this is safe in my mind. Everyone has to make their own decisions. I would have no problem dating and having sex with a person who is positive.

[josephga]

I would recommend using a condom with all people during anal sex regardless of what they think or know their status to be. I personally don't participate in any type of anal sex. I just don't like anal sex either way. I do enjoy oral sex and do not feel a need for a condom. After talking to doctor and my dentist I feel this is safe in my mind. Everyone has to make their own decisions. I would have no problem dating and having sex with a person who is positive.

 

I never liked anal sex either. I always wondered if there were allot of others out there that felt the same..

[orbital sander]

I never liked anal sex either. I always wondered if there were allot of others out there that felt the same..

 

I know many folks who have an oral preference, so I would guess that you may be surprised.

[Guest zipperzone]

I would recommend using a condom with all people during anal sex regardless of what they think or know their status to be. I personally don't participate in any type of anal sex. I just don't like anal sex either way. I do enjoy oral sex and do not feel a need for a condom. After talking to doctor and my dentist I feel this is safe in my mind. Everyone has to make their own decisions. I would have no problem dating and having sex with a person who is positive.

 

So - are you saying that you would give a blow job to a person who is positive, without using a condom, just because your dentist said it was OK?

[+ Charlie]

Absolutely the ONLY upside to the AIDS epidemic was that I could finally say no to getting fucked without being made to feel like a wuss. Bill Clinton to the contrary, I always felt that oral sex was real sex.

[+ Travis69]

So - are you saying that you would give a blow job to a person who is positive, without using a condom, just because your dentist said it was OK?

 

yes, my dentist knows my oral health. if he told me I was at risk I wouldn't go down on anyone even if they swore on 200 bibles they were negative. I assume everyone is positive and act accordingly.

[Guest zipperzone]

yes, my dentist knows my oral health. if he told me I was at risk I wouldn't go down on anyone even if they swore on 200 bibles they were negative. I assume everyone is positive and act accordingly.

 

But you don't assume any such thing if you are so sure of your dentist's opinion. You are assuming that regardless of the status of the recipient, you will be safe due to your superb oral hygiene. That hygiene can change overnight so unless you see your dentist every time before you suck someone off, you're playing Russian Roulette.

[josephga]

delete i put a post here ment for another thread

[+ Travis69]

But you don't assume any such thing if you are so sure of your dentist's opinion. You are assuming that regardless of the status of the recipient, you will be safe due to your superb oral hygiene. That hygiene can change overnight so unless you see your dentist every time before you suck someone off, you're playing Russian Roulette.

 

Yes, I see my dentist for an exam and then suck him off. It is part of my deductible on my dental insurance. Nothing is 100% safe. You also play Russian Roulette with condoms as they can break. After talking with medical professionals I feel comfortable with what I do. Not telling anyone else what to do. The thread was about dating a person with HIV. I would do it.

[MsGuy]

Previous post on transmission of HIV virus via oral sex.

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?p=637109#post637109