Recent Escort Stalking

[Guest bluboy]

Ok it must be the bad economy but I have recently become the target of aggressive escort marketing and telemarketing. I give someone a trial and 1 week later there is a follow up call as to ask when we are getting together again and the follow up email. In the last 2 months, this has happened to me 3 times. Has anyone else seen this? My preference is always that don't call me, I will call you. I even have one leave an explicit message on my machine- I suppose in the hope of getting me hot and bothered and ready to call. Then last nite I was in for a "surprise" My doorman rang and said "XYZ" was downstairs at about midnight. And while I was horny there was no way I was letting anyone up. It is strange as I have never had this many be this aggressive in so short a period of time. Business must be slow. What ever happened to- "ok you have now cum and I am out the door as fast as possible b/c both you and i are a little embarassed about what just took place and i will see you when i see you if you so choose to call me again" ? Anyone else been stalked? blu

[SaTxTop]

Depends on what state you are in. In Texas 2 or 3 unsolicited contacts after you have informed someone to stop contacting you constitues stalking.

 

But then, Texas supposedly has some of the toughest stalking laws in the country. *shrug*

[Rod Hagen]

Obviously unsolicited phone calls and visits are unacceptable. But are the follow up emails too much? I check in with clients via email routinely, maybe I shouldn't. Bad form?

[Guest jeffOH]

I prefer to let clients contact me. I have only a few clients that I ever call up(very regular clients of several years)and it's not to solicit business. That's too aggressive for me.

 

JEFF

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[Rod Hagen]

Do you think maybe the Doorman blew him instead?

[+ deej]

Stalking is bad form, but follow-up contact isn't necessarily bad. Showing up at your door is DEFINITELY bad form unless you gave explicit permission in advance. The only time I've had a guy show up at my door uninvited, it was the last (AND I DO MEAN LAST) guy I hired off the street.

 

I've had calls/e-mails after the fact from several guys, usually just thank you notes, but sometimes trying to drum up business.

 

They usually get the point when I tell them "When I call you, I'm paying. When you call me, I'm not." Sometimes, they even take me up on that. One of my regulars calls me when he's horny and business is slow. I guess I'm more fun than a dildo. :+

[Bilbo]

There was a thread not too long ago which advocated sending thank you notes and seemed to think it was bad form when an escort didn't. Since then, I have added a request for anyone who wants such a thank you email to email me first to the little printed material I hand out at the end of a session. So far, none of my new clients has taken me up on that one.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>Since then, I have added a request for anyone

>who wants such a thank you email to email me first to the

>little printed material I hand out at the end of a session.

>So far, none of my new clients has taken me up on that one.

 

You give out printed material? Next it will be green stanps ;-)

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

"Recent Escort Stalking"

 

>Ok it must be the bad economy but I have recently become the

>target of aggressive escort marketing and telemarketing.... >Anyone else been stalked? blu

 

A nit here... what you describe in this instance seems accurately labeled as 'aggressive ... marketing". Seems a little overboard to label it 'stalking'.

 

On to the main point. I understand this makes most uncomfortable and it can easily cross a line very fast. I haven't experienced this myself.

 

I have been contacted a few times by regulars or others I have seen before, who will be travelling through my area, to let me know that they will be around. I appreciate the opportunity of first refusal. WHile this may be construed as 'marketing' by some I consider it a courtesy. All clients' money is the same color so when I'm offered an early booking I'm flattered. :-)

[alanalt]

>A nit here... what you describe in this instance seems

>accurately labeled as 'aggressive ... marketing". Seems a

>little overboard to label it 'stalking'.

 

I'd agree that the phoning is aggressive marketing but I don't think the showing up uninvited is too far from 'stalking'.

 

As for the actual issue, yes I've had one escort who's follow up has been way too 'in my face'. It got to the point where he was calling me a couple of times a week and I began to feel like he thought of me as an ATM (one that gives blowjobs

:7 )

 

It came to the point that after a very unsatifactory enounter (from my point of view) so that I waited until he phoned me and then told him not to call me any more. So far that's done it (though if he ever calls again I'm going to use deej's line about not paying for it when he calls me :-) )

 

In my experience that's pretty different from the follow up I've from other escorts, which I don't object too at all. In fact, the occasional e-mail can be flattering, but not the 'I'm horny so when are we going to get togther so you can pay me again' calls I got from this one guy...

 

Just my two bits,

 

Alan

[+ Charlie]

This has happened to me a couple of times in the past. In the first case it was someone with whom I had had a couple of hot sessions, but he called to solicit a date while I was giving a family dinner, which really annoyed me, since I had never asked him to phone me; I asked him not to call again, and I never called him again. The other time was a guy whom I had hired through an agency, so I was shocked that he even knew my number; I complained to the agency, and never used them again. Both these incidents happened in the days before email.

I have never had this experience with anyone who has been reviewed here, though some escorts have sent follow-up email, sort of like a bread-and-butter note. However, one guy whom I had approached through email but decided not to engage sent several follow-up emails soliciting me to come to Europe for an assignation, until I had to block his email address.

[ad rian]

>I have never had this experience with anyone who has been

>reviewed here, though some escorts have sent follow-up

>email, sort of like a bread-and-butter note.

 

My only experiences with this was with a London and another Miami escort who both sent emails to me to tell that they were coming back to town. No problem there, but I did object to being included with an email sent out to a group all at once with everyone's email showing. Needless to say, I deleted the email, and never followed-up!

[Guest 7Zach]

maybe the rent was due on the first?

[MiamiLooker]

An escort that I've previously seen calls me when he's going to be in my area and tells me "I have Wednesday, Thursday and Friday available. Which day is best for you?"...automatically assuming I want to see him every time he's here. I wouldn't mind seeing him again, but I really don't like this approach.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>An escort that I've previously seen calls me when he's going

>to be in my area and tells me "I have Wednesday, Thursday

>and Friday available. Which day is best for

>you?"...automatically assuming I want to see him every time

>he's here. I wouldn't mind seeing him again, but I really

>don't like this approach.

 

The "multiple choice" approach is a classic method of a salesperson getting a prospect to commit to an appointment. Such an approach would not bother me at all. If I didn't want to see him I would just say that unfortunately none of those days would work for me.

 

If he was an escort that I wanted to see again, I would appreciate his keeping in touch - otherwise how would I know when he is going to be near where I live?

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest Slammy]

I posted in ask an escort this very situation. I called an escort for the first time, got all the information, etc. Then someone I really wanted to be with became available so I did not set a firm date with the new guy. A week later he called me, asking if I had paged him. I said yes, a week ago. I engaged him in conversation and he told me how slow it was and how he was having a difficult time financially. So I guess it must be slow for some.

[Uncle Bill]

One of my favorite escorts, I guess you could call him my "regular", calls (and e-mails) me periodically on the pretense of just wanting to chat (and I sometimes do likewise). I know that in reality he's just marketing his services, but he does it in a very low-key and friendly way. If calling my cell phone, he always makes sure to ask right up front whether it's an OK time to talk and does so in a way that I can give him a clear but nonincriminating answer if I'm in a compromising situation (such as being with my family). He also says all of the right things and in a very sincere manner (asking me about things in my life that we've talked about, telling me what he's up to, recounting some of our joint exploits, telling me that he misses me, etc.) that make the conversations enjoyable (and sometimes hot). He almost always leaves it up to me to talk (or not talk) about when our next meeting might be -- and the conversation often ends very naturally without even a mention of that. I should add that he never has (or would) come by my house without my asking (even though he does know where I live). As oppossed to the "stalking" that is being discussed in this thread, this is a very effective long-term marketing technique for the escort (at least in this case) -- and often cheers me up and makes me feel close to him (which enhances our meetings) eventhough I know the truth.

[Guest jthomp3303seattle]

john in Seattle: When and escort calls after a date, I feel that it is just good manners. When an escort lets me know he's going to be in town, that's good business. If a previous escort, with who I have had a pleasant time, came to town and didn't call, I would be insulted. I always enjoy hearing from old "friends", and the back and forth bantering of E-mail enables us to form some sort of bond. I have never been aggressably solicited by any escort. I think they would be afraid of a bad review.

[pacnwescort]

>When an escort lets me know

>he's going to be in town, that's good business. If a

>previous escort, with who I have had a pleasant time, came

>to town and didn't call, I would be insulted.

 

This is an interesting point, because it does work both ways.

 

I have never gotten a negative response from a former client when I emailed them to say I'd be in town. Usually I only send such emails to clients who clearly indicate to me that they would like to meet again.

 

Since I travel monthly between two cities, I typically send an email to regular clients in each city letting them know when I'll be there that month. If I email a past client 3 months in a row or so and never hear from them, I just drop them from my email list and figure they'll contact me if they really want to hook up at some future point. I can imagine that there are clients who don't mind getting an email every month, whether they reply or not, but if I keep sending them and there is no reply it starts to feel a little pathetic. I've also found that if clients really do want to see me again, but its just a bad month, they will usually reply and say that.

 

I have had situations where I miffed a client because I didn't contact him about a trip I took to the city he lived in, which would only happen because my dance card was already full, or because I just didn't plan to do much escorting. I guess I would rather err on the side of too little contact, rather than too much, especially after reading posts about "stalker" escorts! :-)

 

Steven

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[mmk]

I see nothing wrong with an escort letting you know that he will be in your city if he is going to be there. If I have given out my email address and then get pissed that someone I gave it to is using it to contact me then there is no one to blame but myself.

 

(By the way Steven, after our encounter you can stalk me anytime. I would definately look forward to that.)

[Guest Collie]

Like any business, those who run their business well, will survive any downturn and those who don't run it well will have hard times.

I do know that some of my friends are opting for "sensual massage", in leiu of escort to save money. But I agree that sex is a drug and once you get addicted to it you will always have money for sex. So a downturn probably affects few.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Since I am chiming in and still groggy....

 

>I have never gotten a negative response from a former client

>when I emailed them to say I'd be in town. Usually I only

>send such emails to clients who clearly indicate to me that

>they would like to meet again.

 

 

This is what I do. I am in PS now to see the same client in the afternoon at least three times, perhaps four, each session to take four hours. This is more than enough money and I was prepared not to see any other clients this week, as three clients is my average, to provide them with the kind of attention I think they deserve.

 

Two long standing clients here, both of whom I have seen regularly, reacted in two totally different ways to the fact that I had not advised them in advance of my presence in Palm Springs. One was mad at me and disappointed at my unavailability. I had agreed to see him on a day I was to take the "current flame" to see Divine Secrets..... The other was was very pleasant and asked if he could take me to lunch and catch up with me, I agreed and said he could treat me for lunch and the time would be on me, but I was seeing my other client that afternoon at 3 p.m. and was not otherwise available.

 

>Since I travel monthly between two cities, I typically send

>an email to regular clients in each city letting them know

>when I'll be there that month. If I email a past client 3

>months in a row or so and never hear from them, I just drop

>them from my email list and figure they'll contact me if

>they really want to hook up at some future point. I can

>imagine that there are clients who don't mind getting an

>email every month, whether they reply or not, but if I keep

>sending them and there is no reply it starts to feel a

>little pathetic. I've also found that if clients really do

>want to see me again, but its just a bad month, they will

>usually reply and say that.

 

 

Excellent points and fully in agreement with here and it is also my practice.

 

>I have had situations where I miffed a client because I

>didn't contact him about a trip I took to the city he lived

>in, which would only happen because my dance card was

>already full, or because I just didn't plan to do much

>escorting. I guess I would rather err on the side of too

>little contact, rather than too much, especially after

>reading posts about "stalker" escorts! :-)

>

>Steven

>[email protected]

 

Finally, for the record, I think Thunderbuns two points further above were also excellent comments I fully agree with. I would never, ever telephone. I only RETURN pages and phone calls.

 

My printed material consists of three poorly worded and mispelled rants about dick size, accompanied by a personally autographed picture of a Magnum condom.

[Guest lipstick]

>I have had situations where I miffed a client because I

>didn't contact him about a trip I took to the city he lived

>in, which would only happen because my dance card was

>already full, or because I just didn't plan to do much

>escorting.

 

Clients need to realize that we are not the only ones that an escort sees when they are in town, though when we are together, part of the fantasy/understanding is that the escort is supposed to be "dedicated" to us for the time we are paying for. Which should be the case. Also, we should realize that good 'scorts plan well in advance with bookings, so that sometimes the schedule really is full.

 

That said, if I happened to see my "favorite" escort at a restaurant or store with another client, and we notice each other, I would expect the 'scort to keep his distance, as I would do, and not stop to talk to me, or do anything else that whould indicate: "Hey, Bill, look, another one of my clients!!! Now HE is a really GREAT tipper!!" There are rare exceptions to this, so only the client and 'scort who talk openly and honestly about these things will know for sure.

 

A lot of this is also common courtesy AND common sense.

 

If an escort solicits via email or phone calls, and there is no response from the client, then the escorts needs to stop and get the hint the FIRST TIME. By the same token, there truly are those missed connections. I recently communicated with a guy who didn't have any reviews posted here, so I called his cell phone and left a message to call me back when he could. For some reason, he never called back, so I went to plan B and had a great encounter with another guy.

 

Just yesterday, about 5 days later, escort #1 called me and said in his message that he just screwed up and forgot that he had messages on his voicemail, and he just said for me to give him a call if I still wanted to. Now that was OK with me, 'cause he was letting me make the "final" call. As a matter of fact, I will send him an email message to let him know that I would pass this time only 'cause the allocation has already been spent. Hey, we really do have to budget and forecast for these things!

 

So that is one small indicator that the guy is OK so far, and we will have been civil about these missed connections.

 

By the same token, we clients also need to make follow up calls where

appropriate, just to say, "No, I'm not interested at all, 'cause you creep me out!!", so that the 'scort can delete the client's number from his database.

 

Should work both ways, right?

 

Thanks!

[pacnwescort]

>>>That said, if I happened to see my "favorite" escort at a

>restaurant or store with another client, and we notice each

>other, I would expect the 'scort to keep his distance, as I

>would do, and not stop to talk to me, or do anything else

 

Damn, wouldn't you at least let me buy you a drink sweetie?

 

Steven

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[Bastian]

>>>>That said, if I happened to see my "favorite" escort at a

>>restaurant or store with another client, and we notice each

>>other, I would expect the 'scort to keep his distance, as I

>>would do, and not stop to talk to me, or do anything else

>

>Damn, wouldn't you at least let me buy you a drink sweetie?

>

>Steven

>[email protected]

 

 

 

I'd definitely find it hard to completely ignore someone I'd been on a sucessful escort date with, especially if we were having simultaneous favorite restaurants. A quick discreet word to the waiter would take care of your clients drinks or appetizer, and one could simply slip the extra money into the check folder or deduct it from the evening's rate.

 

uh, but I'm always true to you, darlin', in my fashion...

 

Bastian