Miami Beach Police engaging in undercover stings

[Romann]

Now when a established poster like Kevin Slater comes on and says the police made several arrests in NYC recently, then I would naturally believe that. He said they happened last week so I am curious as to the details. Were the escorts in question busted from Craigslist or Rentboy, or were they hustling on the street or in bookstores or bars. I would think all of the NYC escorts would be very interested in this sort of info.

 

I am also curious as to why he says avoid Ft Lauderdale today and from Nov 13-17. Does he have any inside info regarding vice stings that are happening today will be happening on those specific dates in November?

 

That might have something to do with the fact that those are his travel dates and destinations listed on his website.

 

"Upcoming Travel:

Fort Lauderdale* Tuesday September 1 to Friday September 4

Fort Lauderdale (redux)* Friday November 13 to Tuesday November 17"

[Guest RianB]

I have to agree with Doug69 as almost none of this adds up. The key for any police dept doing a sting is publicity, in other words get the word out so other escorts will think twice about escorting in the city the sting was done in.

 

There are two sites in particular that keep track of all escort related stings across the USA and post them daily. There is nothing about any sting in Miami on either of them. The web address for the sites are at the bottom of this post.

 

It's almost unheard of for a high class hotel to let the police conduct a sting operation in their hotel. This holds true even more so for the Delano as they cater to a extremely high end clientèle, many who would be completely turned off if they thought the hotel was letting the police use rooms for sordid sting operations.

 

If you read the reports of the various sting operations around the country on the web sites below, you will always see stings conducted in lower end hotel properties. In addition its almost always female escorts and from Craigslist. I have never heard of any ads targeting Rentboy, Adam4Adam, etc although it wouldn't surprise me.

 

However there is no reason for a real escort who advertises on Rentboy, etc to come on here and make up a wild story like that. So if Christopher can at least provide us links to his Rentboy and other on line ad's, then I would believe him.

 

In addition to escorts and clients, I am sure there are law enforcement types who read this board, and maybe even have joined as well as people who just think escorting is bad in general. It could be that one of these people are posing as a escort with this wild story to scare off escorts from Miami Beach. If thats the case I would think this "poster" needs to get a life.

 

http://www.prostitutionsucks.com/

 

http://www.crimene.ws/search/label/craigscrimelist/index.php?frontpage

 

wow...

 

 

 

It simply amazes me how acts of kindness are just tossed back in the face of others on here. Instead of just thanking the poster for the information (whether you believe it or not) and moving forward, others choose to make the poster the bad guy instead of just reading the information, interpreting it for yourself and moving on to the next poster and thread to bash and trash. What ever happened to "Thank you for the information" and just leave it at that instead of making him out to be some sort of liar, cop or whatever..

 

The thing is Romann, this is forum though. If someone post something here that sounds outlandish, one has to expect to get scrutinized or questioned about it. It would be a boring and passive board if people just said, "thankyou, I'll be careful" to every arrest thread that comes on here.

 

I think BearDad made a good point. He shouldnt be bashed for that. What he said made sense. Just like when I made my comment on your thread re: Boston. Lets remember again, this is a forum. You never know who the person is posting unless they have their website and info up. For all we know it could be a troll. To take in every bit of information someone post here without any type of questioning, well thats just being a bit gullible if you ask me.

[alanalt]

I can already hear the sound of knives sharpening while typing up this response. Please, just make sure that you at least wipe off the knife before you attempt to stick it in my back.

 

Romann, you're forgetting the cardinal rule that before you knife someone in the back, you first have to be behind them. Most of the knife-fights here are the 'in your face' kinds...

 

I agree with Rian that in an anonymous message forum people have every right to question the motivation and/or credibility behind what other people are saying. In fact as a general rule, I wish more people would speak up when they suspect they're being fed bullsh*t because, all to often, the 'mannerly' approach of saying/doing nothing allows all sorts of lies to be spread.

 

Alan

[AdamSmith]

It's almost unheard of for a high class hotel to let the police conduct a sting operation in their hotel. This holds true even more so for the Delano as they cater to a extremely high end clientèle, many who would be completely turned off if they thought the hotel was letting the police use rooms for sordid sting operations.

 

Not to disrespect the OP. But likewise, I've always found high-end hotels extremely respectful of whomever I had to the room. To the point, when I forgot to call the escort with my room number, of the desk clerk phoning my room to ask, "X is here to see you. May we send him up?" A beautiful twink, at midnight, clearly not a business meeting!

 

Have experienced such in NYC, Chicago, Orlando, LA, Detroit (even!).

[Romann]

Not surprising coming from you...

 

How was I bashing on BearDad? I was making a general point about people on the forum and acts of kindness being tossed in their face. In fact, I wasn't doing the mud slinging but instead giving someone the benefit of the doubt and reiterating that all of us should be more careful and keep our eyes and ears perked and look out for one another.

 

I do remember what you said about my post for Boston and my client; you attacked him and what he said as "BS". And now you're calling the poster of this Miami thread a possible troll? Wow... Who is bashing who?

 

wow...

 

 

 

 

 

The thing is Romann, this is forum though. If someone post something here that sounds outlandish, one has to expect to get scrutinized or questioned about it. It would be a boring and passive board if people just said, "thankyou, I'll be careful" to every arrest thread that comes on here.

 

I think BearDad made a good point. He shouldnt be bashed for that. What he said made sense. Just like when I made my comment on your thread re: Boston. Lets remember again, this is a forum. You never know who the person is posting unless they have their website and info up. For all we know it could be a troll. To take in every bit of information someone post here without any type of questioning, well thats just being a bit gullible if you ask me.

[+ purplekow]

Most businesses would opt to cooperate with the police if asked and while an upscale hotel may not be the first to volunteer, my guess is that the administration of such a hotel would cooperate with the police.

The fact that a high end hotel would be polite to a visitor of a guest is not at all surprising no matter what hour the visitor arrives. Unless the young man in question was wearing an "I put out for $" t shirt, a leather jock and nothing else, I don't see how they would know with certainty the nature of his business. Suspect perhaps, but their's is not to question why and how and whom.

These, to me, are separate issues. One about the nature of how they do business, professionally and competently. The other is how they cooperate with the government of the community in which they do business, pay taxes and eventually will ask for licenses, permits and will be evaluated by fire inspectors, building inspectors etc. While discretion may be the preference, cooperation may have been judged, in the long run, to be the better business decision.

[AdamSmith]

Most businesses would opt to cooperate with the police if asked and while an upscale hotel may not be the first to volunteer, my guess is that the administration of such a hotel would cooperate with the police.

 

Point taken.

[+ purplekow]

You sir have made my day. I believe that to be the first truly courteous and considered answer I have ever received on this forum. In fact it may be the first of its kind in the entire forum.

[Romann]

Most businesses would opt to cooperate with the police if asked and while an upscale hotel may not be the first to volunteer, my guess is that the administration of such a hotel would cooperate with the police.

 

Especially to avoid a very expensive lawsuit against them.

[Romann]

Classy!

 

Where can I find this hot outfit!?

 

"I put out for $" t shirt, a leather jock and nothing else, I don't see how they would know with certainty the nature of his business.

[Romann]

I 2nd that in my short time on the MB.

 

You sir have made my day. I believe that to be the first truly courteous and considered answer I have ever received on this forum. In fact it may be the first of its kind in the entire forum.

[+ purplekow]

Where can I find this hot outfit!?

 

 

Now I have gone and spoiled your Christman present.

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

call me nieve but I would think the police would have much better things to do with their time than be concerned with what someone is doing with their body

[+ purplekow]

Not in an election year. Cleaning up prostitution is always good publicity at the local level and by and by the pre election period is often a convenient time to do it.

[Kevin Slater]

Not in an election year.

 

But it's not an election year.

 

Kevin Slater

[Rick Munroe]

The cops seemed to be targeting big dicked tops, too, so I whole-heartedly advise guys who might fit into that category to work elsewhere.

 

Good one, Slater.

[Rick Munroe]

It simply amazes me how acts of kindness are just tossed back in the face of others on here. Instead of just thanking the poster for the information (whether you believe it or not) and moving forward, others choose to make the poster the bad guy instead of just reading the information, interpreting it for yourself and moving on to the next poster and thread to bash and trash.

 

So, Romann, just to play devil's advocate here, if a brand new poster suddenly appeared to claim that "Romann ripped me off, so beware," would you also say that everyone should simply thank the person for the information (whether they believe it or not), interpret it for themselves and move on? Or would you be glad that this board, after 10 years, is (for the most part) a savvy bunch of critical thinkers who would be questioning the poster's motives and asking for more information? My guess is the latter would be true.

 

I have no idea whether the original post is for real or not, but I see nothing wrong with people questioning its veracity and seeking further info.

[Romann]

I would kindly refer them to my reviews. Simple answer for a simple question but nice try.

 

So, Romann, just to play devil's advocate here, if a brand new poster suddenly appeared to claim that "Romann ripped me off, so beware," would you also say that everyone should simply thank the person for the information (whether they believe it or not), interpret it for themselves and move on? Or would you be glad that this board, after 10 years, is (for the most part) a savvy bunch of critical thinkers who would be questioning the poster's motives and asking for more information? My guess is the latter would be true.

 

I have no idea whether the original post is for real or not, but I see nothing wrong with people questioning its veracity and seeking further info.

[Rick Munroe]

I would kindly refer them to my reviews which speak for themselves.

 

OK, so Doug and others are asking for Christopher's information so they can kindly refer to his reviews which should presumably speak for themselves, too.

 

But btw, Romann, by referring people to your reviews, you would be questioning the veracity of the poster instead of merely thanking him for his time and moving on.

 

(also btw, just some helpful MC info: it's not necessary to hit the "quote" button and repeat the entirety of the previous person's post. I'm sure others may have mentioned this to you already but I haven't been around here much lately!)

[Romann]

Nope. Just you.

 

OK, so Doug and others are asking for Christopher's information so they can kindly refer to his reviews which should presumably speak for themselves, too.

 

(btw, just some helpful MC info: it's not necessary to hit the "quote" button and repeat the entirety of the previous person's post. I'm sure others may have mentioned this to you already but I haven't been around here much lately!)

[Rick Munroe]

LOL Seriously, people can follow the conversation without having to re-read the entire last post all over again.

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

lol

[Scorpio]

(also btw, just some helpful MC info: it's not necessary to hit the "quote" button and repeat the entirety of the previous person's post. I'm sure others may have mentioned this to you already but I haven't been around here much lately!)

 

It's a pet-peeve of mine as well. But there's no need to single out Romann with this advice. There's several dozen very LONG-term posters who do exactly the same thing (even when replying to the first post in the thread or to pictures) and I've never know you to admonish them for this behavior.

 

At least Romann puts the quoted material at the end and it's easy enough to skip over.

[Rick Munroe]

There's several dozen very LONG-term posters who do exactly the same thing (even when replying to the first post in the thread or to pictures) and I've never know you to admonish them for this behavior.

 

I have, actually; it's just been a while, plus it gets annoying if you constantly admonish people. I wasn't singling out Romann...I don't even know who he is (although I must say it's a bit tacky to show a naked butt in one's avatar pic).

[Scorpio]

The thing is Romann, this is forum though. If someone post something here that sounds outlandish, one has to expect to get scrutinized or questioned about it. It would be a boring and passive board if people just said, "thankyou,

 

Unless of course Rian is the one being questioned or scrutinized, then Rian 's response is:

 

"You dont have to like what I say but if you dont then stay off my posts then."