stage names and travel itineraries

[devonhunter]

okay... so, here we go with another devon question that has probably already been talked to death, but i'm working alot and don't have time to adequately research past convos as i should...

 

please forgive repeating the topic (if that is the case):

 

 

how does one navigate the issue of travel? it came up in an email recently that the client would pay for the plane ticket, and although i'm not necessarily objecting to people i know learning my name, what if i'm not ready to get naked on that level?

[Scorpio]

I've flown in 7 or 8 different guys over the last 8 years and this has never been an issue. The escort has always volunteered his real name when it came time to book travel. Personally, I would not follow through with the appointment if the escort was unwilling to share his name on a travel appointment.

[KMEM]

I agree with Scorpio. I do spend the time on the email circuit and phone to try to get to "know" any escort that I might be willing to spend the time and money bringing to my town but, after all that, if he is unwilling to part with his name when I am ready to part with my cash, that is a deal breaker. However, I would look at it as a failure on my part as much as his if I could not persuade him that I do what I say.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Guest AndrewJames]

If the client is buying an airfare

 

The airfare has to be booked in your name, if the client is planning on spending an overnight or weekend with you, and you are unwilling to trust him with enough info to buy you your ticket, then it will probably be a deal breaker.

[Scorpio]

So Scorpio, I guess we'll have to be in the same city in order to meet ...

 

We've already met.

 

But I wouldn't book a ticket for the escort under the scheme you mention. Just my preference and one that's not likely to change.

[Guest adnyuki]

We've already met.

 

But I wouldn't book a ticket for the escort under the scheme you mention. Just my preference and one that's not likely to change.

 

I agree Scorpio. It is too complicated. I have flown quite a few escorts to visit me (in Europe), and the plan Anton proposes is too complicated. I always check flights and prices on my own, and as I have an account with a number of travel programs, I prefer making the reservation myself for the escort -- and in Europe often you have to give the exact name as on the passport and even supply the passport number!!! If an escort is being paid transport plus the obvious higher fee for a long visit, and does not wish to part with his real name, then I agree... it is probably going to be no deal.

 

There is an element of trust when one begins parting with fees beyond those for an hour or two.

[Romann]

Good question and one I have pondered for a number of months now and have yet to come to a firm decision either way.

 

IMHO, it's a judgement call but one that should be considered heavily because it is your personal information being disclosed. There are a number of escorts that choose to give out their identity information for airline ticketing purposes which does take a certain level of trust. I can certainly appreciate both sides of the argument. Another option is to book your own travel arrangements in which the exchange of personal information is not necessary though, as pointed out by other posters, this can be construed as a negative in which you may not be hired.

 

I have also talked to escorts that initially handle all travel matters and after the 2nd or 3rd visit, a level of trust and longevity is established which I also thinks sounds reasonable as well.

 

Hope this helps.

 

okay... so, here we go with another devon question that has probably already been talked to death, but i'm working alot and don't have time to adequately research past convos as i should...

 

please forgive repeating the topic (if that is the case):

 

 

how does one navigate the issue of travel? it came up in an email recently that the client would pay for the plane ticket, and although i'm not necessarily objecting to people i know learning my name, what if i'm not ready to get naked on that level?

[devonhunter]

it's interesting to see the responses from patrons vs. the responses from escorts... and both sides are comletely understandable.

[Guest adnyuki]

Hi Devon,

 

I only give out my real name when there's no avoiding it, and to be frank, when a client buys my air ticket I can avoid giving out my real name.

 

I use a travel agency that knows my real name as well as my stage name. If an air ticket needs to be booked, I use Expedia or another website to check which flight is best, I call or email my travel agency and let them know which flight I want to take, they send me an itinerary with a booking reference, and I ask the client to call the travel agency and use his credit card to pay.

 

So Scorpio, I guess we'll have to be in the same city in order to meet ...

(But you can find my travel plans below. )

 

Warmest, Anton.

 

I re-read the answer given to Scorpio on the comments by Anton, and then realised that I know of Anton (although we have never met), and understood more clearly his way of navigating through this. So, in a way I should apologise if my answer seemed glib to his own response.:o

 

As Devon has wisely noted - there are two sides. Anton is considered one of the best professionals in Europe (and I suppose elsewhere) and so he has a lot of experience in this area of ticketing and names.

 

As a client who has experience mostly in Europe, somehow I get to know an escorts real name quite early on on the first meeting -- never asked for, but often just given by the escort -- once they realize that I am not going to betray it. This has led to some interesting developements where some have used my European apartment for weekends "away" from business (and the visit is purely social, no sex involved), or have exchanged notes with me on my real e-mail address, just to say hello or ask advice in business.

 

And let's face it, most clients prefer to remain anonymous too... I wrote earlier that it is a question of mutual trust and that is - for me - the bottom line. If I hire a guy for more than a few hours, I prefer knowing who he is (real name) but I make a point NOT to pry beyond the name unless information is shared in conversation, which would likely happen if you are together overnight or longer, unless one is a supurb actor. I do make a point of NOT getting into personal info beyond minimal things such as... "Hi, my real name is ......"

[Guest Chuck Ikon]

that's a good question....and everyone has some good points here concerning anonymity vs. disclosure.

 

I don't have a problem disclosing personal information as is necessary for traveling with or meeting a client that I know.

 

I do not travel long distances to meet someone for the first time. For me its all about trust and also knowing the gentleman. I'd like to meet, have dinner, etc and then if that seems like a good thing...traveling with them will probably be a blast. I've always wondered when someone from far away wants me to fly thousands of miles and spend 24 hours or more...how do you know you will even like me? I'm sure many escorts do this all the time...but I never could get my mind around that. I like to be as certain as possible that it will be a lot of fun for everyone...so I take it slower when travel is involved.

 

 

I'm sure I haven't become the richest or the most popular escort this way...but I've been on some fantastic trips over the years with great men because of this little rule I made for myself ....and not a one has been bad. A few were trips of a lifetime.

[Romann]

Hello!

 

Welcome to the forum.

 

that's a good question....and everyone has some good points here concerning anonymity vs. disclosure.

 

I don't have a problem disclosing personal information as is necessary for traveling with or meeting a client that I know.

 

I do not travel long distances to meet someone for the first time. For me its all about trust and also knowing the gentleman. I'd like to meet, have dinner, etc and then if that seems like a good thing...traveling with them will probably be a blast. I've always wondered when someone from far away wants me to fly thousands of miles and spend 24 hours or more...how do you know you will even like me? I'm sure many escorts do this all the time...but I never could get my mind around that. I like to be as certain as possible that it will be a lot of fun for everyone...so I take it slower when travel is involved.

 

 

I'm sure I haven't become the richest or the most popular escort this way...but I've been on some fantastic trips over the years with great men because of this little rule I made for myself ....and not a one has been bad. A few were trips of a lifetime.

[OceanTraveller]

I always do the plane tickets too . When the guys get here I also ask what they want me to call them as soon as I pick them up in Charlotte and all but Arpad Miklos have wanted me to call them by their given names !!!If we connect well I usually end up giving them a "nickname"

[jasoncarter_dfw]

I have no problem giving my legal name for travel...I understand the level of trust required for those types of meetings is greater than your typical hourly appointment. A few times in the past, some clients that know & trust me, for reasons of discretion, have given me southwest airlines gift cards or an appropriate paypal transfer to book the ticket myself, so the credit card charge wouldn't alter a significant other.

[raulgmanzo]

I don't have a problem giving out my real name to a client, I just don't like the idea of it being online. If I don't trust someone with my name than I'm not sure I should trust them with my dick in their mouth next to their teeth.

 

But also when it comes to travel I am often willing to just buy the ticket myself and let them reimburse me when I get there.

[+ purplekow]

I recently had an encounter and when I arrived at the hotel, there was a guard at the elevator and I was told to contact the desk which was right next to the elevator. I went to the desk and asked for the room by number and was asked the persons name. I gave the name I had been given which was a stage name. After being eyed up and down, I was told there was no one of that name in that room. I called the escort and he came down. I was slightly embarrassed but a lot more horny so I did not even think to mention it to the escort.

 

Might one just tell the front desk, in addition to my name, I have some friends that refer to me by this name so as to avoid this situation. I actually am referred to by two quite different names and have done this at hotels and they have just added that name to the record. I suppose some people would not want their stage and real names to appear together for other reasons.

[jackcali]

I recently had an encounter and when I arrived at the hotel, there was a guard at the elevator and I was told to contact the desk which was right next to the elevator. I went to the desk and asked for the room by number and was asked the persons name. I gave the name I had been given which was a stage name.

 

I've had this same experience, which I found very embarrassing. (We've already mentioned on this board my paranoia for discretion.) I don't know if it was the escort's fault or that the embarrassment ruined my mood, but our time together was disappointing and I've not seen him since.

 

I've also arrived at a hotel to find that I needed a key to get the elevator to take me up to the right floor. The escort had to come downstairs to collect me, which also wasn't ideal.

 

I think escorts should, to the extent possible, figure out beforehand the level of security at the hotels they book and try to avoid these problems for their clients. In New York, of course, there are so many hotels at every price point that you can almost always find a satisfactory hotel with the right security. I'm sure that's not the case everywhere.

[Racketjock]

Naming Names

 

I have never booked a trip or paid for someone's air ticket without them disclosing their given name to me. I admit it was after discussion and mostly after an intial visit. I have not encountered this issue before or had it raised by an escort. In a couple of instances, an escort booked their own travel, which was moderate, and I reimbursed them once we met. Devon has it right, there are two sides, and it is an issue of trust.