This Week at The Gaiety (review week ending 11/3)

[NY Observer]

As always, comments are encouraged!

 

Welcome to This Week at The Gaiety, the hottest show on Broadway. This week’s show was a good one, with lots of dancers cycling through the lineup. The weather outside was getting chilly but inside the temperature was getting hot.

 

Some random notes before I start the review itself.

 

Many of you wrote about the new format from last week. I think most liked it though some (myself included) miss the awards. I suspect that I will write less on each dancer in the near future. I want to continue writing the review, but it is sometimes quite a chore.

 

Some upcoming events for your consideration.

 

The Gay Erotic Expo is at Webster Hall on November 10 (7pm- 1am) and on November 11 (noon-6pm). They advertise nearly 100 exhibitors with shopping for videos, adult toys, fetish wear, magazines, accessories, lube, novelties. There is also a stage show. Details at http://www.gayeroticexpo.com.

 

The Gay Life Expo NYC is November 16-17 (noon-6pm both days) at The Javits Center. Details available at http://www.gaylifeexpo.com.

 

There was a reported sighting of hot muscle hunk, West Michaels, at The Gaiety last night. He was dancing at Splash Saturday night (11/2), would love to hear any details. I hope he was there to consider dancing at The Gaiety, he looks very handsome and definitely turned more than a few heads inside the theatre when he was in the audience. He can be seen at http://www.musclehunks.com.

 

A well-informed reader directed me to a New York Post article on the 30th which may concern us. Here is an excerpt from the article.

 

“The city’s porn palaces got a nudie lease on life yesterday when a Manhattan judge blocked new regulations that would mean their demise from going into effect until at least December.

 

State Supreme Court Justice Louis York issued an “industry-wide” temporary restraining order sparing 101 topless bars, all-nude clubs, adult movie theaters, peep shows and adult book and video stores from the city’s ax until he holds another hearing Dec. 16.

 

The city’s lawyer, Robin Binder, had argued they should be allowed to shutdown the nudie nooks on Friday, the day the city’s new zoning regulations go into effect.

 

The regulations close a loophole that frustrated the city’s previous bid to shutdown the Big Apple’s adult industry – the “60-40” rule.

 

That exception was caused because the city had defined adult establishments as places where a “substantial portion” of the premises was used for “adult” purposes. The new legislation defines it as “any” – which the businesses’ lawyers claim is unconstitutional.”

It is unclear to me that this impacts The Gaiety, but it’s definitely not good news either way. More details to follow as I hear anything.

 

Along a similar line, and equally depressing, the same reader mentioned that he had heard about some legal rumblings up in Montreal that would prohibit nude dancing. That would be very sad. I hope that the parties involved come to their senses before they ruin the Canadian economy further.

 

I guess I am too liberal. I can’t believe that the government is making this issue a priority. With all the harmful things going on out there, The Gaiety is a very innocuous harmless way that some of us have of enjoying our leisure time. Nothing sexual goes on inside. It’s a celebration of the bodies of some very hot-looking young men. Even when patrons decide to make arrangements with the dancers, this is a situation of mutual consent among two adults; in my mind, there are far more pressing issues than this.

 

Speaking of liberal, don’t forget to vote on Tuesday. There are some very important races throughout the country. I have some personal interest in quite a few races. Good luck to my friend who is heavily involved in one campaign, I hope our candidate wins!

 

Finally, the newest edition of the A&F Quarterly is out and it’s as hot and steamy as ever, such cute boys. They do such a good job of erotically showing off their models. They have truly done a magnificent job of repackaging themselves from their image of days gone past.

 

Ok, sorry about my ramblings, on to the review (I sometimes forget that’s why you’re really here). Again, I will review (briefly) all of the guys performing this week (at least those I saw), not just those in the show on both Friday and Saturday. As always, the views expressed in this review are mine alone. When I am negative about a particular performer, it doesn’t mean the guy is ugly or is a bad person. All it means is that they didn’t capture my fancy. We all look for different things in a guy, maybe you’re looking for something different than me.

 

1. Michael, very handsome, great eye contact, nicely toned natural body, he looks particularly good in his tank tops and string tied pants. He has a very nice butt, is above average in his endowment and is very sexy on stage.

 

2. Mark Dalton (Monday only?), a hot blond, very muscular, though his arms have shrunk back to a “normal” size since his last appearance. The issue where he is named Advocate Man of the Year is out on the newsstands and many of the pictures are excellent. Mark is a really nice guy, very friendly, laid-back. If you see him onstage, you might get a very different impression. He appears to be arrogant and full of himself but that’s really not the case. Given the publicity that he has generated, I think he handles things very well. I didn’t like that Mark’s show was the same show that we’ve been seeing since his debut, same music, same motions, same routine. I didn’t like that he had his tinted glasses on throughout his show, but I did enjoy seeing what is a wonderful body displayed on our stage.

 

3. Angel (Tuesday – Friday), an attractive blond, great dancer, nice body, especially his legs and that butt. I thoroughly enjoy his show; I think I’d have to put him in my top 10 for the year. Angel has become a lot more comfortable onstage and has developed as a Gaiety dancer over the last few months. He’s among the most popular guys at this point.

 

4. Joey Jordan (Thursday – Saturday/Sunday), a newcomer, a body builder who can be viewed on Mark Dalton’s website (which I understand is now totally a pay site). Joey is a nice-looking guy, great physique, beautiful chest and arms, nice legs. He seems to have a great bubbly personality, everyone who spoke with him seemed to enjoy his company. I hear from reliable sources that Joey is openly gay. It’s nice to hear that management is hiring more gay dancers. I heard he’s back for a full week November 25 (please don’t hold me to these dates, they are just rumors/things I hear from patrons, etc.). Joey has lots of tattoos, not really my thing. I did like his tiny Superman tattoo that was revealed when he pulled down his pants. Joey has a great smile, he didn’t show too many opening night jitters. I felt he did look at the ground a bit, but other than that, he appeared quite comfortable and was having a good time. One patron commented on Joey’s dance style and said it looked like he had two left feet. At least he was trying out there.

 

5. Jordan (moved back much later in the lineup later in the week), a newcomer, this one from San Francisco, where he frequents the Nob Hill Theatre. I’d have to say that Jordan did not feel comfortable on stage at all. He spent a lot of his show at the back of the stage and didn’t really interact well with the audience; he kept his clothes on quite a bit longer than the norm in his first number. I think he’s used to a very different environment at the Nob Hill. Jordan has a very nice body, well-toned, an above average dick and a nicely shaped butt. His back was completely broken out and was definitely not attractive. Even less attractive were his ridiculous shoes. I gather that Jordan is very short and wears shoes to make him look taller. They looked like he was walking on stilts and were quite unattractive. He had pencil thin legs, totally disproportionate with the rest of his body (see below). Jordan was one dancer I felt I didn’t connect with at all during the course of the week. Late news flash, from a patron: he has to wear those hideous boots because of a foot problem he has.

Apparently, the high boot covers up the angle his heel is in. He can't

step flat down with his foot, as a result, he has to walk as if he has

high heels on

 

6. Neo (Friday 9pm/Saturday night only), a new name for the dancer previously known as Stephen. He has remade himself and deserves the “new” name. He’s much more toned than before, great chest, very big legs, much better dressed. He dances a bit more but his second song is pretty much the same thing, including THAT song. He is a lot more self-confident and looks so handsome. He always had a really nice looking face and his body was just mediocre by Gaiety standards; now, he looks much more cut up. I am sure he will become a regular performer once again.

 

7. Trevor (Saturday only), great body, beautiful smile, good dancer, nice butt. Oh my, what more could a guy want? I find him to be exceptionally sexy. He tries to come off as a tough guy on stage, but he’s not that way at all, a real sweet guy. He will be back for a week December 16 along with his buddies Austin and Dave.

 

8. Bruce, a sexy long-haired dancer, decent physique though not as toned as many. He does appear to be bigger than his last time here. I think he’s very sensual on stage, nice smile, good eye contact, big dick (he can even suck his own dick). He has a nice butt, though it’s not in the league of a couple of the others this week. I like when Bruce dresses clean-cut, it creates a better image of him. When he wears his baggy pants, he looked a bit grungier than when he dressed in a nice tight pair of jeans. I think Bruce had a unique niche among this week’s dancers.

 

9. Nicholas, a hot-blond, great butt, wonderfully erect dick, puts on a good show onstage with ample looks at both the front and back. He’s very friendly once you get to know him; his English continues to improve. I think that he looked to be in better shape this week than I’ve seen him the last few times. He’s a lot sexier barefoot in his second song than in those construction boots in his first number.

 

10. Andre, a big African American guy, very flirty on stage, huge dick, very outgoing, pleasant personality. He likes to chat with the patrons while on stage. It was amusing on Friday when he noticed a patron with his pants undone and he wanted to see the patron’s unit. I said it was smaller than his. That was the safest bet of all time! On Saturday, he was chatting with a young guy who was obviously there for his first time. The young guy wasn’t smiling. Andre said come on, this is supposed to be fun. Don’t be so serious. Another patron said “THAT is serious business.” Great line.

 

11. Spencer (for hire, sorry I couldn’t resist), a handsome guy, very sensual on stage, really nice personality, down-to-earth. Great face. I felt his body was a bit improved from the last time around but not as cut/defined as some of the others. Very likeable guy. Those eyes are so sexy.

 

12. Tino Lopez, All World’s Video star, very handsome, nice body, great ass, beautiful smile, a fun performer. He is well endowed for a small guy. He will be continuing next week along with his buddy Antonio.

 

13. “Big” Jeff, good looking guy, very sexy, natural looking for a big guy, he’s probably 6-3 or 6-4, very big dick, a lot more flirty on stage than he used to be. Nice smile. Seems to be quite popular; I think people either really like him or really don’t like him. I think his body is very attractive, especially when he comes out with a huge hardon barefoot.

 

14. Antonio, a great dancer, very handsome, quite personable, lovely smile. I really enjoy when he dances to HIS song, Rodrigo. It wasn’t the same on Friday night when he had different music. It was a totally different performance on Saturday with his regular music. He has become one of the most popular performers here, with due cause. I really like his body, his ass, his dick, but most of all his personality. It’s nice when the guys are appreciative of the few dollars we tip them. Antonio always thanks the people who are supporting him.

 

15. Fabio, a newcomer, apparently Brazilian; I thought he had a cute face and dressed nicely, wearing what might have been an A&F outfit. He had a decent body, not perfect, but certainly nice to look at. He had good eye contact, especially for a newcomer. He was not as well endowed as many of the other Brazilians we’ve come to know around these parts. I saw him in the lounge on Saturday night, but he didn’t appear on stage, I wonder what happened.

 

That’s it for this week. Next week’s rumors include the continuation of Tino Lopez and Antonio. I wouldn’t be surprised if Neo worked next week. Also joining the fray will (hopefully) be Gabriel and Ryan. The weekend bodes well with the returns of Ben, Marlone and Tony.

 

Have a great week. Please feel free to send comments/questions to me at nyobsrvr@aol.com. Make sure to put a title on your email so that I won’t think it’s junk mail. I might accidentally delete it if it has no title or one that I don’t understand.

 

See you next time around.

Hugs,

NYO

[+ Lucky]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

Thanks for the hard work that goes into the review, NYO. For the record, I thought Neo looked totally bored, if not hostile, during his dance about 930 Saturday night.

And I love to watch Antonio dance!.:9

[NY Observer]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

Neo has looked bored in the past while on stage. I think he probably doesn't really enjoy what he's doing. It shows.

 

Yes, Antonio is a joy to watch on stage, he really gets into it up there. Very nice guy.

[Cooper]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

NYO: Great job with the reviews. Enjoyed reading your detailed descriptions on each dancer.

 

I spoke with some of this week's dancers. They told me business was slow and were willing to do "privates" for less than the usual. Have you also been hearing this?

 

Please keep us informed if you hear any more on the legal battles over NYC sex clubs.

 

You gave me a good laugh when you put that dollar on stage next to the "shy guy" in front of you...Also, those "BUTT HOOTERS" were too much. Loved seeing all those tips flying around!

[Guest Stan]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

Great review NYO, as usual. I'd like to join the others and express my appreciation for your taking the effort week in week out to relay the "Gaiety experience" to those who can't go there by means of your always-enjoyable review.

 

Something I noticed recently is the fact that there seems to be almost no Canadians in the Gaiety line-up. I frequently go to Toronto/Montreal and I always liked to read your review and see how "my boys" are doing in the Gaiety. I'd appreciate your feedback on that as well as identifying which dancers in your review are Canadian, if any.

[NY Observer]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

>Great review NYO, as usual. I'd like to join the others and

>express my appreciation for your taking the effort week in

>week out to relay the "Gaiety experience" to those who can't

>go there by means of your always-enjoyable review.

>

>Something I noticed recently is the fact that there seems to

>be almost no Canadians in the Gaiety line-up. I frequently

>go to Toronto/Montreal and I always liked to read your

>review and see how "my boys" are doing in the Gaiety. I'd

>appreciate your feedback on that as well as identifying

>which dancers in your review are Canadian, if any.

 

There have not been as many Canadians as in the past. From what I understand there are several issues involved, one involving Immigration, the other involving guys ripping off customers.

 

From the review posted above, the following guys are Canadian:

 

Michael

Trevor

Bruce

Nicholas

Spencer

Jeff (originally Canadian, I believe)

[NY Observer]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

>NYO: Great job with the reviews. Enjoyed reading your

>detailed descriptions on each dancer.

>

>I spoke with some of this week's dancers. They told me

>business was slow and were willing to do "privates" for less

>than the usual. Have you also been hearing this?

>

>Please keep us informed if you hear any more on the legal

>battles over NYC sex clubs.

>

>You gave me a good laugh when you put that dollar on stage

>next to the "shy guy" in front of you...Also, those "BUTT

>HOOTERS" were too much. Loved seeing all those tips flying

>around!

>

>

 

Thanks Cooper.

 

I had heard that business was slower than normal, but hadn't heard that privates were being offered for less than usual. I'm glad to hear the guys are finally realizing that this might be a good way to increase business. Hopefully it doesn't mean shorter time.

 

If I hear more about the legal stuff, I will write it.

 

You weren't supposed to be watching me, you should have been watching the dancer. Yes, the "butt hooters" are fun, they add a lot to the show and most of the dancers appreciate them livening up the show. It makes for a better show when the audience shows some appreciation of the guy's performance. Some of the shows are so quiet you could hear a pin drop. It's supposed to be a fun place, not a library.

[Cooper]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

..."identifying which dancers in your review are Canadian."

 

Hello Stan,

I noticed that this was your "1st post" on M4M. WELCOME to the best information center on the Gaiety. Yes, I agree NYO does a super job in keeping us all informed on the hot action (plus more) at the Gaiety. He always manages to find good things to say about all the dancers. We are lucky to have a guy of his caliber around.

 

However, my question goes out to you. I'm curious as to why you wanted NYO to "identify each Canadian dancer"??? The reason for my concern is that a few dancers from the North have asked me personally not to mention, on "M4M", where they are from. Apparently, past problems at the border have made them a bit nervous...Since a lot of the Gaiety dancers are foreigners, is your interest solely out of curiosity or are you connected, in any way, with any legal or immigration authorities???

 

I've become very protective of some dancers and will do whatever it takes to see that their identities are safe. So tell me "STAN" (the man with no profile) what's up?

 

.............. "C :-( :-( P E R" ........

[+ Lucky]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

Stan still hasn't replied. I am also curious why his first post since becoming a charter member went right to the legal achilles heal of these dancers. Yes, I am curious, but I am not flower!;-)

[Guest Stan]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

Thanks for the list, NYO. None of the names rings a bell, though. They probably use different stage names in Canada.

 

Interesting that there would be a problem with immigration regarding Canadian dancers that prevents you from identifying them as such, while dancers for other countries, who are equally foreign, are identified without a problem. Case in point; Fabio, who in this week's review you mentioned was Brazilian.

[Guest Stan]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

>..."identifying which dancers in your review are Canadian."

>

>Hello Stan,

>I noticed that this was your "1st post" on M4M. WELCOME to

>the best information center on the Gaiety. Yes, I agree NYO

>does a super job in keeping us all informed on the hot

>action (plus more) at the Gaiety. He always manages to find

>good things to say about all the dancers. We are lucky to

>have a guy of his caliber around.

>

>However, my question goes out to you. I'm curious as to why

>you wanted NYO to "identify each Canadian dancer"??? The

>reason for my concern is that a few dancers from the North

>have asked me personally not to mention, on "M4M", where

>they are from. Apparently, past problems at the border have

>made them a bit nervous...Since a lot of the Gaiety dancers

>are foreigners, is your interest solely out of curiosity or

>are you connected, in any way, with any legal or immigration

>authorities???

>

>I've become very protective of some dancers and will do

>whatever it takes to see that their identities are safe. So

>tell me "STAN" (the man with no profile) what's up?

>

>.............. "C :-( :-( P E R" ........

 

 

Huh! I certainly didn't expect THAT response to my innocent little inquiry. Some people's minds never stop working, do they??

 

At any rate, C :-( :-( per, I did post here before over the last year or so, though I'm not sure why the number of my posts doesn't increase (it should read ~4-5). Probably a system bug.

 

As for the reason I asked to identify Canadian dancers, I'll give you a hint; read my message again, it's mentioned there in PLAIN English. Just do me a favor this time and read it without any pre-conceived ideas of a conspiracy or any overly strong maternal feelings towards your dancers. You know, the feelings that prompted you to say that you "would do whatever it takes to protect them"! LOL. That one floored me.. What exactly do you think you can do to protect anybody typing your butt off on your pathetic little keyboard?! And against what??!!

 

LOL

[ddarko]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

Although Stan's response was a litte, uh, abrupt, I agree that folks are being a little too paranoid. The probable reason some Canadian dancers have gotten into border trouble is they're carrying lots of cash when they return home. It's not because they've been identified as Canadian on a website.

 

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but I think the New York City anti-porn shop law applies to strip clubs that serve alcohol. Since the Gaiety doesn't, it shouldn't be affected by the law, even if it is upheld.

[NY Observer]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

I hope you are right Ddarko.

 

Let's keep the conversation pleasant on here guys. There is enough bitterness all around us, let's keep this all upbeat. No more name calling and hair pulling!!

[Cooper]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

>Stan still hasn't replied. I am also curious why his first

>post since becoming a charter member went right to the legal

>achilles heal of these dancers. Yes, I am curious, but I am

>not flower!;-)

-----------------------------------------=

 

Hey Lucky,

hummmmmm...You're not the only one who finds Stan's response a bit odd. I too noticed that he avoided answering my simple (non-provoking) question. His response sounded quite defensive for a "newbie"...So "Stan", the man with no profile, what's up? Can't you respond to a member on this board in a civilized way? got something to hide?

 

I'll ask my question one more time: Are you in any way affiliated with any legal or immigration authorities? Once again, the reason for my simple (non-provoking) question is because of the way you asked NYO to "IDENTIFY THE CANADIAN DANCERS" and because you haven't posted here before to establish any credibility...Anyone reading this board would know that these Canadian dancers DO NOT want to be identified and most use different names when dancing at the Gaiety. There is a reason why NYO doesn't mention where they are from in his reviews, he too wants to protect their identity...I hope you can understand my concern, and not be so defensive and abrupt with your response...As a long time and regular patron of the Gaiety, I enjoy talking about the dancers very much and have developed a close relationship with several...I hope to see you there someday!

 

.............. "C :-( :-( P E R ".........

[Guest desertdaddy]

Andre...

 

Do you know if Andre does escort work? Does he ever travel to the West Coast? Thanks for the info. Later... Buck

[foxy]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

>I've become very protective of some dancers and will do

>whatever it takes to see that their identities are safe. So

>tell me "STAN" (the man with no profile) what's up?

>

>.............. "C :-( :-( P E R" ........

 

 

I'm sympathetic to Cooper's feeling protective of the dancers at the Gaiety. I think of the Gaiety as some endangered evironoment that could disappear overnight. The dancers who cross our borders to come work there are certainly at some risk. The fact that a law enforcement agency could use this site to gather information is understandable. I can see why Cooper's "red-flag" went up.

[Guest Dan]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

>Thanks for the list, NYO. None of the names rings a bell,

>though. They probably use different stage names in Canada.

>

>Interesting that there would be a problem with immigration

>regarding Canadian dancers that prevents you from

>identifying them as such, while dancers for other countries,

>who are equally foreign, are identified without a problem.

>Case in point; Fabio, who in this week's review you

>mentioned was Brazilian.

>

>

I'd figure that they don't identify them as Candaian for the fact that being so close to the U.S., a Canuck just ain't as exotic or exciting as a Brazilian,eh?

 

Dan Dare

http://gaydar.co.uk/dandarela

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

Well, Hello Stan,

 

>Huh! I certainly didn't expect THAT response to my innocent

>little inquiry. Some people's minds never stop working, do

>they??

 

Though Cooper is a good friend of mine I would post what I am about to post to you anyway. First of all, "some people's minds never stop working" .... you must stop and realize where Coooper is coming from. There are many lazy cops that come on this message board, gather data, and go do their work. Your question, and the very "matter of fact" way it was posted even raised my eyebrows. If you are unable to get to the Gaiety and see for yourself where these men are from then you must rely on the kindness of NYO, Luso, Cooper and others who take the time to post the line up, reviews, etc. Putting specifics about these men on the board will lead to problems for them because of the law enforcement people who "lurk" here.

 

>As for the reason I asked to identify Canadian dancers, I'll

>give you a hint; read my message again, it's mentioned there

>in PLAIN English. Just do me a favor this time and read it

>without any pre-conceived ideas of a conspiracy or any

>overly strong maternal feelings towards your dancers. You

 

Your English, though very plain, SCREAMED a theme of undercover work. No, Cooper and I are not X-Files groupies. However, with Freedom of Speech comes responsibility. At times I have spoken QUITE freely about Gaiety guys and especially on my recanting of my time at RED on this message board. With our frank candor comes the issues of how much is revealed and what damage that information has caused. Cooper's feelings are not maternal. Believe it or not it is possible to form friendships with some of these men. I have and so have many others.

 

No one can stop you from typing whatever you want on this site. However, expect reactions from what you post. There was nothing evil or vicious about Cooper's post that prompted your terse reply. And, PLEASE realize that since this is text you don't have facial expressions or tone of voice to really sense what one is saying.

 

Please tell all the cops that you work with that do go to the Gaiety as patrons and those cops that do go on privates to please tip nicely.

 

V D N

}>

 

PS - If there is something you do not like in my post please feel free to click this:

http://151.200.3.8/~vze29k6v/you.html

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

Greetings Guys~

 

I would be inclined to side with Cooper on this one, but maybe i'm a little biased considering an escort, as well as a client, has much to protect when it comes to the variety of people who read on this site. I know that if i were a cop looking to gather info, this site would be a chaser to my morning coffee and doughnuts...

 

As much as i would like to say 'Hey, this is just a message board and can't we all just relax,' it's not that easy. Prying eyes force most of us to go into examination overdrive, especially when a certain trigger is hit. It's just a natural reaction around here to question a poster who delves into a dancers/escorts personal life, especially when it's someone relatively new to the scene.

 

As an escort myself, personal privacy is sometimes limited and when people tend to push the envelope i begin to question their motives. I've been burned a few times for being too trusting, so now taking the defensive is the smarter move~ but always remembering that there's a fine line between being a schmuck and just being plain smart.

 

When push comes to shove, i wouldn't take it personally~ Cooper was just looking out for our best interests and didn't mean to come across as some jerk. Always know who your comrades are... Cooper is one of the good guys

 

 

 

 

Warmest Regards,

 

 

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

Escort@ChiKindaKid.com

http://www.ChiKindaKid.com

[Guest Sports]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

>>I spoke with some of this week's dancers. They told me

>business was slow and were willing to do "privates" for less

>than the usual. Have you also been hearing this?

 

Cooper,

If your'e such friends with the Canadian dancers, which I doubt, why would you advertise that business was bad and they had reduced their rates? Why would you advertise that Canadian dancer's do privates?

[ddarko]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

>realize where Coooper is coming from. There are many lazy

>cops that come on this message board, gather data, and go do

>their work.

 

VDN, how do you know that police officers prowl this board for info? And if they do, what kind of info do you think they're gathering that would be useful to them?

 

First, local police are loath to enforce federal immigration law. They know it's an thankless and impossible task and besides, it's not their job. The NYPD is not in the business of tracking down illegal aliens; if they were, in this city, that's all they would be doing.

 

Second, stop and think about it for a minute: a cop can easily go into the Gaiety and ask the dancer "where are you from?" My experience has been that the Canadian dancers don't hesitate to say where they're from. So why would a cop need to come to this board to get this info? If anything, the police would be disinclined to gather info from this board because it is secondhand so has the potential of being inaccurate or unreliable. Police have to show probable cause to a judge to get an arrest warrant and one component of probable cause is that the police just show that the info is reliable and there's no way anonymous posts on the Internet qualifies as reliable.

 

Scenarios about clandestine police activites may be fun to spin but they're simply not realistic. If the police are really interested in getting the Canadian dancers, all they have to do is go to the Gaiety. As I said before, there's a far simpler and more reasonable explanation for why Canadian dancers have gotten in trouble in the past: they carry large amounts of cash across the border, which is a huge and automatic red flag. It's got nothing to do with what happens on this board.

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

>VDN, how do you know that police officers prowl this board

>for info? And if they do, what kind of info do you think

>they're gathering that would be useful to them?

 

Since M4M is an open and public space it is safe to assume plumbers, lawyers, movie actors and cops look here. What are they looking for? They are looking for where "tricks" go down as prostitution is illegal.

 

>First, local police are loath to enforce federal immigration

>law. They know it's an thankless and impossible task and

>besides, it's not their job. The NYPD is not in the

>business of tracking down illegal aliens; if they were, in

>this city, that's all they would be doing.

 

Well, from time to time they do these "wave hits" where they look for prostitution going on in NYC. They know where the hot spots are and when they lurk on here they find out more "stuff".

 

>Second, stop and think about it for a minute: a cop can

>easily go into the Gaiety and ask the dancer "where are you

>from?" My experience has been that the Canadian dancers

>don't hesitate to say where they're from. So why would a

 

I agree.

 

>cop need to come to this board to get this info? If

>anything, the police would be disinclined to gather info

>from this board because it is secondhand so has the

>potential of being inaccurate or unreliable. Police have to

>show probable cause to a judge to get an arrest warrant and

>one component of probable cause is that the police just show

>that the info is reliable and there's no way anonymous posts

>on the Internet qualifies as reliable.

 

Well, they show up at a place that they learned about here, they make a deal go down, and when the money changes hands the cuffs come out (and not the fun cuffs either).

[ddarko]

RE: This Week at The Gaiety

 

VDN, you missed my point, which was that there's no reason to believe police are using this board to gather info specifically about Canadian dancers. If all the police were concerned about where tricks took place, they wouldn't care about citizenship. This thread got started by someone asking which dancers were Canadians, not whether they did privates or not.

 

Frankly, I think it's a bit optimistic to believe that the police don't know what goes on at the Gaiety or that they won't know as long as none of us spill the beans. The horses left the barn a long time ago. If the police do nothing, it's because they choose not to, not because they don't know. Hopefully, that hands-off attitude continues.

[NY Observer]

RE: Andre...

 

Andre does escort when he's at the Gaiety, all of the guys do, or virtually all.

 

He is from the West Coast, not sure if he works out there though.

 

This week's lineup...

 

1. Tino Lopez

2. Neo

3. Gabriel

4. Alex

5. Antonio

6. Derek

7. Ryan

 

Enjoy!!!

[+ glutes]

RE: Andre...

 

I side with Cooper on this one. I don't care if they are illegally here from Mars, I care what they look and act like!! Asking where they are from is just part of the ice breaking / 'getting to know you' BS, and they can make up all sorts of stories.