Gas Prices in Your area, Let's hear about it.

[Guest PWIT]

>$3.86/gallon for premium unleaded here in Bay Area.

 

Never understood why the price per gallon was always so much more in the Bay Area. Is there a hefty gas tax there? Or does it somehow cost more to produce and distribute gas there?

[Guest ReturnOfS]

>Holy crud! This thread is still alive that I created back in

>2001. Amazing how times have changed.

>

>Where my dad lives about 20 miles south of me he is paying

>2.82 a gallon

>

>I am paying about 1.95 here in Alexandria

 

Where in Alexandria can you get gas for 1.95/gallon?!!! If that wasn't a typo, I so want to go to the gas station that you go to.

[Guest ReturnOfS]

>Holy crud! This thread is still alive that I created back in

>2001. Amazing how times have changed.

>

>Where my dad lives about 20 miles south of me he is paying

>2.82 a gallon

>

>I am paying about 1.95 here in Alexandria

 

Where in Alexandria can you get gas for 1.95/gallon?!!! If that wasn't a typo, I so want to go to the gas station that you go to.

[+ deej]

>Where in Alexandria can you get gas for 1.95/gallon?!!! If

>that wasn't a typo, I so want to go to the gas station that

>you go to.

 

But you have to look like Talvin to get that price. :9

[+ deej]

>Never understood why the price per gallon was always so much

>more in the Bay Area. Is there a hefty gas tax there? Or

>does it somehow cost more to produce and distribute gas

>there?

 

There are many factors, none of which add up.

 

A lot of oil is still drilled at offshore rigs in CA, refined in CA, and sold as gas in CA. Oil companies are still charging us for environmental protection measures that allow them to drill here, long after that cost has been recovered.

 

People also say that real estate for gas stations themselves is more expensive in LA and SF, which is true enough. But JEEZ!

 

I heard early in the Iraq conflict that the bulk of CA's gas supply comes from Iraqi oil. They've been a little distracted over there.

 

But it still twists my shorts to drive to Vegas and see gas cheaper BY A LONG SHOT than in LA (or the bay area). I've seen differences of almost $1/gallon.

 

We're being gouged. And they get away with it because they know Californians will pay it.

[seaboy4hire]

>We're being gouged. And they get away with it because they

>know Californians will pay it.

 

In short until people all over dramatically change their driving habits you will continue to be gouged. Right now at the Shell station by my place premium (the gas I use) is at $3.71 and has been going up about a nickle to ten cents a week. At that rate by summer I will probably be paying over $4.00 a gallon. Thank goodness I don't have a gas guzzler.

 

Hugs,

Greg

 

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[raulgmanzo]

Gasoline is not really very expensive

 

Greg has the right idea, get a scooter, use less.

 

Adjusted for inflation gasoline is still a bit less than in 1981 when it would have cost nearly $3. Gasoline would have cost about $2.00 (in todays dollars) in the 1950s. So the price has increased almost 50%, but in the same time MPG has increased 100%. So even though fuel economy has largely been stagnant since 1990 you only need half as much. The reason fuel economy has been stagnant? Because in practice gasoline is very CHEAP. And the oil companies and car manufacturers have had a bunch of friends in the white house and congress.

 

Gasoline is cheaper than milk.

 

The average MPG for passenger cars is 27mpg (though in europe is is 40 and in Japan it is 45). If you're driving 10 miles to see an escort your going to pay like a dollar or two in fuel. Even a hundred miles is going to be like 10 bucks, big deal.

 

Maybe we should increase the price of gasoline and use less of it. We'd pollute less, be healthier by walking more, and preserve open and natural space. Perhaps we'd stop supporting tyrant kings (against the wishes of their subjects) in oil producing countries.

http://economics.about.com/od/gastaxandpigouclub/f/emissions.htm

 

If instead of adding lanes to roads we built sidewalks and bike lanes we might be surprised how easy it would be to drive less.

 

During the 70s Ivan Illich calculated the time one spends on transportation including the work one has to do to pay for their car:

"The model American puts in 1600 hours to get 7500 miles: less than five miles per hour. In countries deprived of a transportation industry, people manage to do the same, walking wherever they want to go, and they allocate only 3 to 8 percent of their society's time budget to traffic instead of 28 percent."

[+ glutes]

RE: Gas Prices SF 10MAY07

 

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[+ deej]

RE: Gas Prices SF 10MAY07

 

http://www.dfapam.com/gas.jpg

[edjames]

This morning in Clearwater, FL, the price of gasoline rose from $2.85 a gallon to $2.99 a gallon!

 

ED

[+ deej]

I paid $3.51 in Agoura Hills, CA (rural Los Angeles county) last Friday. That means it's even higher in LA-proper.

 

On the TODAY show this morning, they interviewed the President of Shell. I got the feeling he was expecting a softball interview, but Meredith went for the jugular. (I'm starting to like that broad!) He flopped around like a beached fish, clearly unprepared to answer questions about record profits when people are clearly feeling the pinch of prices at the pump.

 

He seemed surprised to be asked about it, which I suppose partly explains why there is a problem in the first place.

[Guest jeffOH]

Here in Columbus, OH, we passed $3 a gallon a couple of weeks ago. The last time I'd purchased gas was nearly 3 weeks prior. Recently, when I started pumping, I noticed it was $3.12 a gallon. Fortunately, my Jetta gets nearly double the MPG that my Firebird did, so this hasn't been as painful as it could have been. I was looking at this thread's original post and saw that gas at that time in 2001 was around a $1 a gallon. That has to be the highest increase in a six year period ever.

[seaboy4hire]

I am kind of surprised that gas hasn't went up for the weekend. Maybe the companies are holding off to really hit us till the 4th of July?

 

Hugs,

Greg

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[+ deej]

Went down for me.

 

Last time I bought gas it was $3.54. I paid $3.45 on Friday.

[+ glutes]

And hear about it you will!

A barrel of crude just passed $77 today. You are going to need to take out a bank loan to fill-up your SUV's before long...

($3.20/gallon the cheapest here today)

[+ glutes]

GORDA, Calif. -- Gasoline prices continue to rise day by day on the Central Coast and elsewhere in the state.

 

Premium is being offered at $5 a gallon in Gorda.

 

Crude oil prices hit an all-time high Wednesday, topping $98 a barrel. Analysts said with worldwide oil demand rising, it is still not clear just how high prices will go.

 

Over the past two weeks, gas has gone up 15 cents a gallon in California alone.

 

In Oakland, the cost of premium has topped $4 a gallon.

 

God Bless George W. Bush! [b/]

[Guest Havan_IronOak]

Well, lets hear it for the RIGHT coast for a change... or at least the left coast of the right coast... In Tampa Bay I bought gas last night for $3.01 (Not Premium but then us suncoasters have simpler tastes)

[Louis]

In Fort Frances gas is 1.039 a litre or roughly 3.93 per US gallon. The Canadian dollar today was worth 1.10 US dollars, so that has helped keep the Canadian gas prices a bit lower.

[buckguy]

Regular was going for $2.93 in suburban DC. I'm surprised it hasn't risen higher. I sold my car in August and decided to see how I'd manage for a year, relying on occasional rentals (easier & easier to do in DC and some other cities with Zipcar/Flexcar). For once, I might have done something at the right time.

[+ deej]

I lived without a car for 15 years and it started in DC.

 

In DC, there were enough transit options even 20 years ago that you only really needed a car if you were going somewhere in the flung suburbs. (And usually when I was going there, others were going too and I could hitch rides.)

 

I was amazed to pay only $2.69 in Phoenix a month ago. I was not amazed to pay $3.45 when I got home.

 

$4.00/gal in the LA area won't surprise me. We've been inching towards that for the last 2 years. It will probably be $5.00/gal within a year.

 

Fortunately, I don't use much gas.

[seaboy4hire]

>$4.00/gal in the LA area won't surprise me. We've been inching

>towards that for the last 2 years. It will probably be

>$5.00/gal within a year.

>

>Fortunately, I don't use much gas.

 

I was thinking the same thing. Here in my neighborhood I think prices are right about where LA's is and $5 for next year is what I was thinking last night actually. I was also thinking first I am glad to see those with suv's, Hummers (there are quite a few in my neighborhood) and huge trucks that aren't needed are having to pay out the ass for gas. Some with such vehicles have complained about the price of gas to me and I've flat out told them, you can't afford the gas then you shouldn't be owning your mode of tansport. They didn't like my reply but eff them :* While many search for the extra change to fill up their gas hogs while I happily pay just under what it costs per gallon most of the time More money in my pocket for Madonna next summer Really guys, park the cars for a month, adjust your scheds accordingly and drive if you only really need to, like to the grocery store and watch the money pile up. Think of the things you can do with the extra savings. Maybe pay more on the house note, pay down a credit card, put the savings towards some place nice, snag that cute boy you've had your eye on etc... Just some ideas.

 

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[Guest zipperzone]

Paying the current price for gas - or not - is just a matter of establishing prioities. We all have our pet vices and gassing up the car is one of mine. I don't think I am going to have to go without other things to put gas in the car, but if I it came right down to it, gas would win, hands down.

 

I know there is always the alternative of public transportation. But... it never seems to be going where I want to go, when I want to go. Standing on a corner in the middle of the night waiting for that frickin bus that only comes by once an hour just doesn't cut it for me.

 

And let face it, a typical day's local driving might be, drop off the drycleaning at the cleaners, swing by Starbucks for your fix, over to the gym for your thrice weekly, meet your ex for lunch, go to the mall 'cause you need a pair of new shoes and batteries for the camera, pick up the drycleaning which you had on 1 day service and take it home. Pick up your BF at his office and go to that new bistro for a salad and then catch the 7:30 showing of the new Tom Cruise flic (actually it starts tomorrow) and home by 10. For me that would be a very typical day - try doing it on public transportation. Or, pay about $100 for cab fare. Neither, thank you.

 

Do less driving is fine in theory. In the real world it is unworkable.

[seaboy4hire]

>Do less driving is fine in theory. In the real world it is

>unworkable.

 

I might have to disagree with you there Zip. I forgot to mention too less cars on the road is better for the environment, fewer accidents, easier on the road (less repairs needed), and less stress. It is workable. Dj has done it, another poster above has and so have I and many others who aren't aware of this board. It just takes a little planning and it can be done for most.

 

Hugs,

Greg

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[jackhammer91406]

Down in Rio

 

Visiting with friends (http://www.ananab.com) who tell me that yesterday the local government announced the finding of the largest deposits of oil and natural gas in Sao Paolo. It is described as the tip of the iceberg and will, it is believed, bring this country (Brasil) on a par with Saudi Arabia in exportable oil and gas. IT should have a enormous effect on the economy here as witnessed by an increase of 15% in the value of the oil shares on the local stock market yesterday. In the long run it should impact the influence of Valenzuela on oil prices.

[+ deej]

>It just takes a little planning and it can be done for most.

 

I'll agree that it can be done, but not that it can be done for most. ;-)

 

The reason I was able to do it was because I was living in areas with great transit. (DC, NYC, and Chicago) Here, I'd have to walk 2 miles just to catch a bus, and that would only take me to a central "hub" where I could then catch another bus out to another destination, or a train downtown. (Completely unworkable since I don't *go* downtown.)

 

Some areas just don't have decent transit.

 

Having said that, many people *think* their area doesn't have decent transit because it's easier to hop in the car. You'd be surprised how many people around the US have told me there is no shuttle service at their local airport, but there really is. They never looked for it.

 

It's there a lot of the time if you look for it. But not always.