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I just saw some of the remarks made on this subject in the forum section of MuscleService.com. I never had any idea that Rod Hagen, Michael Hamilton, Luke of RI, or Mickey Squires thought of their clients as sick mother fuckers...did you?

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Guest DavidofNYC

It wouldn't surprise me that some escorts have a great deal of resentment over people that they have to have sex with because they need the money. The escorts that truly enjoy their jobs and like their clients are the ones I patronize.

I did read the muscleservice posts, and yes, these guys seem to have a real attitude problem. This has been a hard, depressing week, and I certainly could use an affectionate companion.

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Thanks for pointing out those insensitive remarks on muscle service. I read them and I couldn't believe what Rod Hagen and Mike Hamilton said. They have a big attitude problem and it seems not much respect for people. After reading what Rod Hagen, Mike Hamilton, Luke of RI and Mickey Squires actually said I don't think they will have to worry about their "escort phones" ringing.

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I also read the remarks thanks to your alert. I was in the early email stages with Rod and no longer will I hire him. I do not want to become one of his "sick mother fucker clients." And I will not support his twisted sick ego.

 

The lot of them seem to dislike what they do so much then they should find a different career. I have lost total respect for these guys. Nothing they could counter with would make up for those comments ... nothing!

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Guest DCescortBOY

i don't visit muscleservice.com... could you give me some background on what happened? were these people just ranting about customers in general or something?

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Hi Guys, :)

It really wasn't that bad...just an emotional outburst from the ever hyper Mike Hamilton. IMHO

 

Link:http://pub17.ezboard.com/bmuscleforums

 

You have to be an EZ-Board member. It's free!

Then the password for the forums at Muscle Service is lust.

 

Here's an excerpt from the thread:

 

Hagen:I was absolutely amazed when my escort phone line rang on Tuesday afternoon and evening and the men would ask "are you working?" "Are you fucking crazy? No, I'm not working. The WTCs and part of the Pentagon fell for crissakes." I'm still turning people away and have no idea when I'll resume. But I'm still blown away by the calls I'm getting. Christ, is sex all you think about? Grow up

 

Hamilton:

 

ROD HAGEN,GOD BLESS YOU, MY NAME IS MICHAEL HAMILTON FROM CHGO. I AM A MODEL ESCORT,AND I FEEL THE SAME WAY YOU DO!!! SOME OF THESE SICK MOTHER FUCKERS DONT GET IT DO THEY!!!????

I JUST WANTED TO SAY IREAD WHAT YOU POSTED AND I FEEL THE SAME WAY YOU DO.

YOUR A GOOD HEARTED MAN!!!

I RESPECT YOU, SINCERLY MICHAEL LEE HAMILTON

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Guest DCescortBOY

well, i think he should take a break from the testosterone, but was it really all that horrid?

if they're so shocked & horrified that people would call, they should have turned the ringer off on the phone.

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>Hagen:I'm still turning people away

>and have no idea when

>I'll resume. But I'm still

>blown away by the calls

>I'm getting. Christ, is sex

>all you think about? Grow

>up

 

Doesn't Rod even remotely realize that maybe some of those people who called him were looking for comfort, for someone to talk to? Why does he assume that sex is all a client thinks about? I always remember that the word 'passion' is a part of 'compassion'. For me, this job is never just about sex.

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Guest IM_Moore

>>Hagen:I'm still turning people away

>>and have no idea when

>>I'll resume. But I'm still

>>blown away by the calls

>>I'm getting. Christ, is sex

>>all you think about? Grow

>>up

>

>Doesn't Rod even remotely realize that

>maybe some of those people

>who called him were looking

>for comfort, for someone to

>talk to? Why does

>he assume that sex is

>all a client thinks about?

> I always remember that

>the word 'passion' is a

>part of 'compassion'. For

>me, this job is never

>just about sex.

 

 

Rick I do not think your comments could have been written any better than above. Maybe you will head west later in the year and I will have an opportunity to hire you.

 

These guys are clearly out of touch. And as another said if they were so freaked out why answer a phone you know is set up for clients only. Maybe change your message to say something like hey I am not working this week due to the tragic events back east. As I said before I have lost all respect for these guys. Their arrogance is underwhelming.

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This week, I initially canceled all appointments. But many of my regulars keep calling, even some I rarely see, so I agreed to meet those I could. Not surprisingly, company with familiar faces has been theraputic for me and them.

 

I haven't read Rod's exact words and in what context, but please, cut this man some slack. This is an emotional time. We don't need to misdirect anger, certainly not at friends.

 

An odd phenomonon ths week, with clients and everyone I speak with, simple words and common greetings carry heavy meaning. Questions like, "How are you?"

 

I hope everyone is safe and well.

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>As I said before I have lost all respect

>for these guys. Their arrogance is underwhelming.

 

IM and others, I don't think it is fair to judge people based on what they said this week. Just as a client may have needed compassion, obviously these guys had emotional reasons to need to avoid working.

 

Let's let some time pass and forgive a lot of what was said while we were in a state of collective shock.

 

(That's NOT to say that I will ever forgive Falwell and Roberts, though.)

 

Dick

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Here's a link to the complete thread. I agree that Rod's comments were rather harsh. He posted several times and he kept putting his foot in his mouth with each post. According to his very last post -- which was also very strongly worded -- (it's on page four of the thread) the people who were calling were looking for sex not comfort. People are having very different reactions to the tragedy. Who knows what's really going on in his mind?

 

http://pub17.ezboard.com/fmuscleforumsmusclelogbook.showMessageRange?topicID=8438.topic&start=61&stop=77

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Going back to work restored a sense of normalcy to my life after

these surreal events. I noticed a difference in my emotional level and what a release it was for both me and my clients. The

comments made by Rod and others on the MuscleService site were really unnecessary. They were basically venting their frustration at what appeared to be a lack of compassion/sensi-

tivity to the terrorist attacks by the clients who were calling.

 

I don't believe they took into account how other people process

such traumatic events. They couldn't see beyond their own shock/

anger to take the time to understand the reasons clients may have been calling. They projected their own idea that all these

guys were thinking about was just SEX. Perhaps on down the road,

they will see how quick they were to judge and gain a greater

understanding of how differently we all react to such horrific

events.

 

Jeff4hire@aol.com

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Clients calling escorts this week

 

I'm not sure about others. But after I've learnt and seen what happened on Tuesday, I really wanted to be close to someone, both physically and emotionally. Talking with and hugging each other as well as crying on each other's shoulders could be ways by which one tries to deal with the tragedy. Human connectivity is very important to many people in sad and stressful times like these. I'm fortunate that my partner and I have friends, family and each other for mutual support and comfort. However, there could be those who only have escorts to turn to for the support and comfort that many of us have sometimes taken for granted.

 

Hugs,

JT

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RE: Clients calling escorts this week

 

My brother worked in World Trade 2. By grace he was supposed to be in late to work in the morning and arrived to see the building on fire. He had to walk out, and our family was pretty upset until we heard from him because we knew where he worked.

 

Others have been less fortunate than we.

 

But I feel like one these pathetic peoples hopes was to destroy our lives, and so the best answer is to thumb our nose at them and keeping living them. No doubt others want to respond in their own way.

 

I understand their responses, but I just wish they wouldn't judge others who want to pick up and keep going.

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To Zach DC:

 

After seeing the quotes in context, and considering what we've all been through this past week, I vote with you to cut Rod Hagen and the others some slack.

 

I had an appointment with an escort which had already been arranged for Thursday, and had some guilt about it before going. It turned out to be incredibly therapeutic for me, and I hope for the escort as well. I needed to be held and comforted and I'm grateful I didn't follow through on my initial impulse to postpone.

 

Rod Hagen posts in this message area from time to time and I've always found him to be quite nice. Would any of us would want to be judged forever for what happened during a bad time? I doubt it.

 

Zach, you've won another fan. Thanks for your post.

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I will go out on a limb, as I have had the opportunity to hire Rod in the past. I found him to be a very sensitive, kind, funny and appreciative person. I also can understand his comments "in the context in which they were said", having read the thread carefully. If anything, Rod went way beyond the client-escort stage with me in follow-up e-mails after our meeting, e-mails which he initiated, offering me not only advice, but also some very kind words. I will never forget that, and knowing him from that brief encounter in L.V. earlier this year, I do not think my opinion has changed based on his comments at the MuscleService site.

 

If someone finds his honest comments offensive, then perhaps it would be best not to hire him, but I appreciated his candidness, and his openness with his feelings. I have lost a few friends in this immense terrorist attack, and would have appreciated someone near me in those initial hours, but I also can appreciate what Rod said.

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Individuals react differently to trauma. Some guys want to lose themselves immediately in sex, others can't imagine doing anything sexual, others may want it but feel guilty about it. We have no idea how the clients approached these escorts; the approach may have appeared very insensitive, triggering Hagen's emotional outburst. Escorts are not professional grief counselors and it's unfair to expect them to throttle their own response to a national tragedy. For the record, I do not know the escorts mentioned in this thread, and I certainly wouldn't consign them to the Don't Hire category on the basis just on the basis of these few remarks.

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I am not surprised at Rod Hagen's postings. He has a chip on his shoulder and wears it just a bit too proudly in my opinion. I have never forgotten a post he made months ago in which he expressed disgust at having sex with less than attractive clients and the silent scream he has when he's being affectionate with someone he doesn't find appealing. And of course don't dare criticize him; he's all over you with his supposed superiority. I don't know about the other guys - I give them the benefit of the doubt. But, for me, Rod Hagen has been on the shit list for a long time, and this only cements it in my mind.

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Guest ItalianLover

I agree with he fact that this has been a very long and strange week.

I don't think we should assume any less of Rod and the other escort from one post.

 

Nevertheless , I admit though that this made me think , that the two escorts i have been with were "silently screaming "inside.

I don't think anything , not even rejection, could have offended me more.

 

I hope Rod will post his opinion , and hopefully everything will be allright

 

Be kind with a stranger , and make sure you tell people around you , you love them and how much they mean to you.

 

ItalianLover

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One of the aforementioned escorts said on muscleservice that he spat in the face of an arab looking man. That is totally unaccepatable behavour and I was appauled at other comments made on that site. These people are as dangerous and as hateful as those morons who caused this whole tragedy. My heart sinks when I hear this kind of action.

 

I am also pleased that Hoo-Boy has termed the special site as Attack on America, as opposed to the war feeding terminology used by CNN and other TV channels.

 

I am so glad to hear reason on this site, among so many contributors. Reason must prevail. Revenge, or retaliation is one thing but the bigger picture of the causes of intolerance must be addressed. This is America's real challenge as it has not done a good job of it to date, and George W is playing a script that is too short term, political and predictable. Where are the great minds in America. A new form of leadership is needed to address this new form of attack.

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