Sex after escorts

[Guest exFratBoy]

> I chose

>this profession because it pays

>well and I don't have

>to work a 9 to

>5 job. So I'd have

>to say THE MONEY!

 

 

You think, Sean? I mean if money was what you were after, what about investment banking? Silicon Valley? Law?

To give you the same kind of reality check, dude, you are a Whore. "Escort" is just a polite euphamsim we've invented for more expensive prostitutes (male and female). But at the end of the day, you're still a prostitute Sean.

And prostitution is, as you've so aptly illustrated, an incredibly degrading way to earn a living. It's not a choice that a well-adjusted person makes. Willingly, anyway. For a teenage runaway, there might not be many other choices.

 

On another note, I can't believe that you've all left the 800 pound elephant sitting in the middle of the kitchen: One of the biggest reasons men hire escorts is that they are IN THE CLOSET.

And closeted men do not go to gay bars to pick up guys. Their options seem to be AOL or an escort. When I read the reviews, I'm amazed at how many of the reviewers describe themselves as married. The other half seem to describe themselves as closeted.

 

The more masculine, less openly gay escorts' clientele seems to be made up exclusively of these kind of guys. They hire escorts because they can afford it and because a guy who has sex with them but who will never make emotional demands is exactly what they are looking for.

 

As for the age/looks/wealth disparity thing, it's pretty common in our culture. I mean does anyone really think Matt Nye is turned on by Jann Wenner? Or that any of the corporate 'trophy wives' are in it for the sex, companionship and common interests.

 

And in closing, BostonGuy: Yes, you have a problem. Hiring escorts that often is preventing you from having a real relationship. It's an easy trap to fall into, especially if you're on the road a lot. But take comfort that it's no different than if you logged onto AOL and hooked up with different guys for anonymous (albeit free) sex that often.

 

Peace.

[Will]

Bucky, you are a sweet guy and I'm glad you're here. I make it a practice never, for any reason, to respond to a post by someone prominent on this particular thread; but I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your remarks and to associate myself with them.

[BuckyXTC]

>Bucky, you are a sweet guy

>and I'm glad you're here.

> I make it a

>practice never, for any reason,

>to respond to a post

>by someone prominent on this

>particular thread; but I would

>like to take this opportunity

>to thank you for your

>remarks and to associate myself

>with them.

 

Thanks for your kind words, Will. I'm truly honored by them.

I always make a point, when I'm searching through the theads, to find what you and several other folks here post, because I know they'll be thoughtful and well-spoken. Again, my thanks!

 

BuckyXTC

[Matt_Vancouver]

>And prostitution is, as you've so

>aptly illustrated, an incredibly degrading

>way to earn a living.

>It's not a choice that

>a well-adjusted person makes. Willingly,

>anyway. For a teenage runaway,

>there might not be many

>other choices.

 

 

I'm not going to say I'm the most well adjusted person in the world, but I definatly chose this profession, not out of need, or because I was incapable of anything else, but because I enjoy it. That may be hard to believe, but it's the truth, I like travelling, I like sex with a variety of men, I like the attention, I like the ego stroke, I like orgasms, and I like the money. Note money comes in way down the list, yes money is a factor, but it's not the defining purpose.

There are a variety of reasons that guys start 'whoring', probably a different reason for every guy doing it, but to lump all together as flakes, is a huge generalization.

Some of us are pretty 'normal' in every respect... now I don't include myself in that category, I am anything but normal: )

matt(stroke me)

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

>matt (stroke me)

 

Okay, nice post.

[Guest jeffOH]

>You think, Sean? I mean

>if money was what you

>were after, what about investment

>banking? Silicon Valley? Law?

>To give you the same kind

>of reality check, dude, you

>are a Whore. "Escort" is

>just a polite euphamsim we've

>invented for more expensive prostitutes

>(male and female). But

>at the end of the

>day, you're still a prostitute

>Sean.

>And prostitution is, as you've so

>aptly illustrated, an incredibly degrading

>way to earn a living.

>It's not a choice that

>a well-adjusted person makes. Willingly,

>anyway. For a teenage runaway,

>there might not be many

>other choices.

>

>On another note, I can't believe

>that you've all left the

>800 pound elephant sitting in

>the middle of the kitchen:

>One of the biggest reasons

>men hire escorts is that

>they are IN THE CLOSET.

>

>And closeted men do not go

>to gay bars to pick

>up guys. Their options seem

>to be AOL or an

>escort. When I read the

>reviews, I'm amazed at how

>many of the reviewers describe

>themselves as married. The other

>half seem to describe themselves

>as closeted.

>

>The more masculine, less openly gay

>escorts' clientele seems to be

>made up exclusively of these

>kind of guys. They

>hire escorts because they can

>afford it and because a

>guy who has sex with

>them but who will never

>make emotional demands is exactly

>what they are looking for.

>

>

>As for the age/looks/wealth disparity thing,

>it's pretty common in our

>culture. I mean does anyone

>really think Matt Nye is

>turned on by Jann Wenner?

> Or that any of

>the corporate 'trophy wives' are

>in it for the sex,

>companionship and common interests.

>

>And in closing, BostonGuy: Yes, you

>have a problem. Hiring escorts

>that often is preventing you

>from having a real relationship.

>It's an easy trap to

>fall into, especially if you're

>on the road a lot.

>But take comfort that it's

>no different than if you

>logged onto AOL and hooked

>up with different guys for

>anonymous (albeit free) sex that

>often.

 

Fratboy...thanks for the insightful comments. Are your opinions based upon actual world experience or did you just pull them out of your ass?

 

You obviously can't imagine a "well-adjusted" person choosing to work as a prostitute. I wasn't a teenage runaway when I started

hooking, I was 27 years old. I had other options, but I chose this profession for many reasons. I enjoy sex, the money is good and it has allowed me the time to pursue other endeavors. I've also been able to save more money than I would have had I continued in retail management.

 

I've worked as an escort/prostitute/hooker, whatever you'd like to call me, but at the end of the day I can say that I find joy in what I do. It's not just about sex. Many of these married or closeted men need a gay outlet. I have seen the positive effects I've had upon their lives. That's incredibly rewarding to me.

 

I feel that the services I provide are of great benefit to my clients. I know many less than "well-adjusted" people who have jobs you'd deem respectable. Just maybe someone who CHOOSES to work as a prostitute doesn't have the same puritanical sexual hang-ups that many Americans have. And just maybe you know very little about this subject.

 

Jeff4hire@aol.com

[Matt_Vancouver]

All I'm gonna say is sad sad sad, that you have such a dark outlook on life.

I can't even imagine how awful you existance must be, to absolutly dispise what you do so much, yet for some reason still continue to do it?

matt(canadian brown noser... I like the sounds of that)(better than old crusty bitter queen)

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Guest exFratBoy]

>

>Fratboy...thanks for the insightful comments. Are

>your opinions based upon actual

>world experience or did you

>just pull them out of

>your ass?

>

>You obviously can't imagine a "well-adjusted"

>person choosing to work as

>a prostitute. I wasn't a

>teenage runaway when I started

>

>hooking, I was 27 years old.

>I had other options, but

>I chose this profession for

>many reasons. I enjoy sex,

>the money is good and

>it has allowed me the

>time to pursue other endeavors.

>I've also been able to

>save more money than I

>would have had I continued

>in retail management.

>

>I've worked as an escort/prostitute/hooker, whatever

>you'd like to call me,

>but at the end of

>the day I can say

>that I find joy in

>what I do. It's not

>just about sex. Many of

>these married or closeted men

>need a gay outlet. I

>have seen the positive effects

>I've had upon their lives.

>That's incredibly rewarding to me.

>

>

>I feel that the services I

>provide are of great benefit

>to my clients. I know

>many less than "well-adjusted" people

>who have jobs you'd deem

>respectable. Just maybe someone who

>CHOOSES to work as a

>prostitute doesn't have the same

>puritanical sexual hang-ups that many

>Americans have. And just maybe

>you know very little about

>this subject.

>

>Jeff4hire@aol.com

 

And here I thought Cleopatra was Queen of De Nile.

Jeff- you like sex? So do I. But is sex with some fat 60 year old guy the kind of sex you like?

Somehow I don't think so. Somehow I think you'd rather be having sex with someone closer to your own age and physique. If you don't have hang-ups, maybe you'd rather be having sex with lots of someones closer to you own age and physique, but getting paid for it ain't living the hedonistic modern life.

Not to mention the health risks. (Safe sex not being 100% safe)

 

I'm sure it makes you feel better to see yourself as some sort of sexual social worker, who can "find something sexy in any man" but at the end of the day, you're having sex with someone you wouldn't have sex with unless they were paying you. There's a reason they call what you do the world's oldest profession.

 

 

 

PS: If nothing else, I'm glad we seem to have gotten the reality check here that these guys are just prostitutes and not some elite fraternity of hot young jocks who'll let us pay to have sex with them. Reading many of the posts and reviews, you'd think the latter was true.

[Guest jeffOH]

>And here I thought Cleopatra was

>Queen of De Nile.

>Jeff- you like sex? So do

>I. But is sex with

>some fat 60 year old

>guy the kind of sex

>you like?

>Somehow I don't think so. Somehow

>I think you'd rather be

>having sex with someone closer

>to your own age and

>physique. If you don't have

>hang-ups, maybe you'd rather be

>having sex with lots of

>someones closer to you own

>age and physique, but getting

>paid for it ain't living

>the hedonistic modern life.

>Not to mention the health risks.

>(Safe sex not being 100%

>safe)

>

>I'm sure it makes you feel

>better to see yourself as

>some sort of sexual social

>worker, who can "find something

>sexy in any man" but

>at the end of the

>day, you're having sex with

>someone you wouldn't have sex

>with unless they were paying

>you. There's a reason they

>call what you do the

>world's oldest profession.

>

>

>

>PS: If nothing else, I'm glad

>we seem to have gotten

>the reality check here that

>these guys are just prostitutes

>and not some elite fraternity

>of hot young jocks who'll

>let us pay to have

>sex with them. Reading many

>of the posts and reviews,

>you'd think the latter was

>true.

 

exFatboy...At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter to me

what some judgmental, negative person such as yourself thinks about me or what I do. I never said that I "find something sexy

in any man", it's not about me or my pleasure. I get off on the pleasure that I'm giving. I don't have to make myself feel better by convincing myself that I am some sort of "sexual social worker" because I have evidence of that every day from my clients and in the reviews some have written about me.

 

As far as health risks go, I can say that in 10 years of escorting I've NEVER had a sexually transmitted disease. I'd be

much more likely to contract an STD if I was picking up guys at gay bars or having sex at bathhouses...neither of which I do.

Most of the men I see have VERY little gay sex so the chances of me contracting an STD are likely less than the average promiscuous gay man. Most escorts that I know are quite diligent

about their health. Being a disease-ridden escort is not good for business.

 

Obviously, your opinions are based upon the usual myths about prostitution. But, everyone is entitled to their opinions, however uninformed and misguided they are.

 

Jeff4hire@aol.com

[Guest WorldEscrt Sean]

Matt, You have no idea what my life is like. I've been in a great relationship with my lover for 8 years, our 9th is coming up soon. I have 3 beautiful homes (just bought a 4th as an investment property) I have 2 GREAT dogs. 3 flourishing businesses and the greatest friends in the world. I travel first class and transport myself around town in a stretch limo. I eat at 5 star restaurants. All at my expense no one else's. Not only could I buy and sell you a million times over I could also have you put in a ditch while sitting in my hot tub sipping brandy dear.

[Bilbo]

Sean, honey, you know I love you like a brother, but those last two sentences don't strike me as necessary, and if we were actually here in person, I'd gently slug your shoulder.

[Matt_Vancouver]

Oh I'm sorry I misjudged you, you ARE well adjusted.

It must be nice to have that much money and live a lifestyle of the rich and famous, yet still have time to have sex with " fat old men", as you call them, just for the fun of it: )

Matt(found a horses head in his bed)

 

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Guest WorldEscrt Sean]

I don't have sex with fat old men Matt. I have been Escorting for over ten years and saved my money. I didn't stick it up my nose or veins or spend it foolishly. I invested it in real estate and my businesses and other investments. I'm extremely picky as to whom I let in my bed. Unlike you who will fuck anything that knocks on your door. I understand that you circuit boys will sleep with anything just so you can party in different areas of the world. So I leave the fat old men to you dear.

[Guest WetDream]

Gosh! And I thought that Madonna was the material girl.

[Matt_Vancouver]

Me a circuit boy: ) now that's funny.

Matt(anti-circuit queer mutha fucka)

 

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Sean,

 

You repeat history once again... for a bright man you say some stupid things -- another case of just one sentence too many. A wise man knows that everything going on in his head shouldn't come out of his mouth. And a wiser man puts limits on what he allows to go on in his head. In #59 you made your case for success and independence in what I count as the first six of seven sentences. Some may be impressed with this case others may not. But what in the hell is the purpose of the seventh and final sentence. Is this supposed to engender respect? ... or fear? I think it achieved neither. It only points out your lack of self discipline and capacity for excess.

 

:-(

[Guest WorldEscrt Sean]

RE: Tampa

 

Tampa, I have a great deal of respect for you but in this case I would advise you to mind your own business. Matt is a brown nosing little faggot in my view and this has nothing to do with you. So STAY OUT OF IT if you would like to remain my friend.

[Matt_Vancouver]

RE: Tampa

 

Faggot yes... brown noser... no

Matt(homosexual)

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

RE: Tampa

 

Sean,

 

Your respect is much appreciated, your ultimatum is not.

 

It is no secret on this board that Matt is a friend of mine too; and I, among many, know he is well equipped to take care of himself and neither needs or desires others to intercede on his behalf. So know that I did not post to get between you two. If you think back, in the past serious exchanges between us, I never posted to ‘get between’ you and another. My posts always sought to get between you and yourself – so it was one more time.

 

I had hoped you would reflect on my post beyond just reading it. I see no need to another lengthy exchange covering the same ground as before in the episodes of last year. You are a year older, why aren’t you a year wiser? After this last year, you should be several years wiser IMHO. There comes a time just to let things go -- it appeared of late that you had come to this on your own. Shit kicking, whether or not one manages to hit the target, leaves the kicker with every bit as much, and often more, of the foul odor and appearance he tries to inflict on his target.

 

Sean, wise up – it’s time. It’s good advice, it’s meant to be helpful – and I think you know it.

[Guest WorldEscrt Sean]

RE: Tampa

 

Actually Tampa, My B'day is next Wed. And I have a preference for diamonds (hint hint) as they are a girls best friend. That and good lighting

[+ bigjoey]

RE: Tampa

 

those of us on this board should not be surprised to find sean a bitter old (he is not even close to 30 as his website claims) queen who hates what he does. he does it for the money that he desparately needs to maintain his life style. as long as they have the money, he will take every old fart to his bed that he can squeeze into a day.

 

lately he had some well thought out posts that showed a good side to his personality; i thought that he might have changed for the better. however, his recent outburst shows the old sean is back. as i have pointed out before, his postings "write his own review". from these last out bursts i assume his only clients are beautiful young men who model in their spare time; anyone that is "old" need not even apply to be a client.

 

from his postings here, i would hire matt in a heart beat if i were in the same city as he; the same goes for rick monroe and some of the more thoughtful posters. wise up sean, we are your customers and you need to be nice; just basic business. you do not have to love us to be civil or nice.

 

i help one of the better known escorts with his investments. he is a wealthy man by all standards. however, he does escort because he likes sex and he likes bringing warmth into the lives of some very lonely men. he enjoys the ego stroking i know he gets along with the love that many of his clients give him. he escorts for the same reasons as matt. so sean, matt's posting is not untrue for him and some others. there is no need to attack him.

[+ bigjoey]

RE: Tampa

 

since sean made so much of the private emails not being made public, i will not repeat what sean privately emailed me but just say it contradicts what he has posted here.

[Guest WorldEscrt Sean]

RE: Attn: BigJoey

 

Please note that I no longer open your post so whatever you have to say to me is falling on deaf ears.

[Guest WetDream]

RE: Mixing Metaphores

 

You can lead an escort to the bank but you can't make him take old tricks.